Little Boy that Cried AlQaeda

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Question: What's the fastest way to eliminate a group that speaks against you?

Answer: #1) Slip an 'al qaeda' operative into the group and the shut the entire group down because of terrorist related activity or just assasinate the leader w/out charge or trial.

Al Qaeda and terrorism are the new buzz words of the 21st century, and a really nice way for governments and countrys to silence freedom of speech.

This isn't just happening in the US... but even in 'muslim' countries. For example, in Imam Anwar Al Awlaki (lives of the prophets, the hereafter) was arrested in Yemen because of 'media reports that he had ties to 2 9/11 hijakers' http://www.saracen.nu/2006/11/06/breaking-imam-anwar-al-awlaki-detained/, yet no proof was ever given. Guilt by assumed association.

Isn't this a nice, sweet n' dandy way to silence your critics? You have a small muslim group that denounces a government for oppression and reminds us of the Laws Allah (swt) set on mankind..... a few months later, that group is shut down, leaders in custody because of 'suspicious' Al Qaeda related activity. Some ditzy blonde mentions it for 30 seconds on the evening news , hundreds of analysts affirm the threats al qaeda presents to the west, and average american joe believes every single word, after all we believe everything we read and everything we see on tv. Right?


You know what? I'll be the first to admit that I don't know 100% for sure what is going on in the world. Allah(SWT) only knows for sure what is happening to the world. I mean, there could be a handful of fanatics planning on blowing up the world somewhere. But i believe their numbers are less than what is made out to be.
 
lilah said:
Question: What's the fastest way to eliminate a group that speaks against you?

Answer: #1) Slip an 'al qaeda' operative into the group and the shut the entire group down because of terrorist related activity or just assasinate the leader w/out charge or trial.

Al Qaeda and terrorism are the new buzz words of the 21st century, and a really nice way for governments and countrys to silence freedom of speech.

This isn't just happening in the US... but even in 'muslim' countries. For example, in Imam Anwar Al Awlaki (lives of the prophets, the hereafter) was arrested in Yemen because of 'media reports that he had ties to 2 9/11 hijakers' http://www.saracen.nu/2006/11/06/breaking-imam-anwar-al-awlaki-detained/, yet no proof was ever given. Guilt by assumed association.

Isn't this a nice, sweet n' dandy way to silence your critics? You have a small muslim group that denounces a government for oppression and reminds us of the Laws Allah (swt) set on mankind..... a few months later, that group is shut down, leaders in custody because of 'suspicious' Al Qaeda related activity. Some ditzy blonde mentions it for 30 seconds on the evening news , hundreds of analysts affirm the threats al qaeda presents to the west, and average american joe believes every single word, after all we believe everything we read and everything we see on tv. Right?


You know what? I'll be the first to admit that I don't know 100% for sure what is going on in the world. Allah(SWT) only knows for sure what is happening to the world. I mean, there could be a handful of fanatics planning on blowing up the world somewhere. But i believe their numbers are less than what is made out to be.
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How many terrorists does it take to inflict serious damage on a civilian population? It took 19 Al-Qaeda terrorists to kill 3,000 people. Obviously the world has to take the threat seriously. There are instances, of course, where people use this very real threat to further their own agendas, but that doesn't mean the threat doesn't exist.
 
Keltoi said:
How many terrorists does it take to inflict serious damage on a civilian population? It took 19 Al-Qaeda terrorists to kill 3,000 people. Obviously the world has to take the threat seriously. There are instances, of course, where people use this very real threat to further their own agendas, but that doesn't mean the threat doesn't exist.
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It took one to lead to the deaths of over 700,000 INNOCENT people. Which terrorist should you fear more?
 
Keltoi said:
There are instances, of course, where people use this very real threat to further their own agendas, but that doesn't mean the threat doesn't exist.
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Top Killer/Threat of Americans

#1 Cancer
#2 Obesity
#3 Heart Disease
#4 a Stroke
#5 Suicide
#6 Diabetes
#7 Aids
#8 Accidental Injuries (hit by car/ car accident/falls/slips)
#9 Old Age
#10 Natural Disaster

in other words you are more likely to die of cancer, obesity, heart attack, strock suicde, diabetes, aids, being hit by a car, being in a natural disaster, or plain or old age before you are likely to die from a terrorist attack. How many people died or were misplaced during hurricane katrina...and yet we are more worried about what a handfull of people might be doing 1/2 way across the world....

and yet, people still shiver in the corner in fear and see


additionally, the details of 9/11 are unknown including the govt's involvement/or knowlege of. yet we allow ourselves to form opinions on things we know little about.

sad, imo
 
lilah said:
Top Killer/Threat of Americans

#1 Cancer
#2 Obesity
#3 Heart Disease
#4 a Stroke
#5 Suicide
#6 Diabetes
#7 Aids
#8 Accidental Injuries (hit by car/ car accident/falls/slips)
#9 Old Age
#10 Natural Disaster

in other words you are more likely to die of cancer, obesity, heart attack, strock suicde, diabetes, aids, being hit by a car, being in a natural disaster, or plain or old age before you are likely to die from a terrorist attack. How many people died or were misplaced during hurricane katrina...and yet we are more worried about what a handfull of people might be doing 1/2 way across the world....

and yet, people still shiver in the corner in fear and see


additionally, the details of 9/11 are unknown including the govt's involvement/or knowlege of. yet we allow ourselves to form opinions on things we know little about.

sad, imo
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The expected 9-11 conspiracy drivel aside, I agree with your point about the actual threat to the average everyday citizen. However, the responsibility of a government is to provide stability and security for its citizens. The average everyday citizen isn't going to look at at event like 9-11 and say "Well, more people die of heart attacks, not a big deal". They will demand that their governments stop this kind of thing from ever happening again. That puts alot of pressure on a government to see results.

Also, I don't think the average everyday citizen is huddled in fear about anything. They know they have enemies, and they expect their government and themselves to counter that enemy.
 
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What "one" are you talking about?
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According to you it took 19 terrorists with instructions from someone in a cave to kill 3,000 people. According to me the man I see on tv claiming to be doing God's work, otherwise known as the leader of the free world has (albeit not singlehandedly) led to the death of over 700,000 people.
Even if you look at it from your point of view (i.e. they are sub-human compared to the Americans) and you calculate it as 3 Iraqi deaths=1 American death......your terrorist Christian fundamentalist leader has killed more people than Whosama Bin Laden.
 
The Americans have not killed 700,000 people. The great bulk were killed by the Sunni / Shiite civil war.

“But…” I hear you say, Sunni and Shiia kill each other because of the US occupation.

“But…” I hear you say, the occupation is a direct result of the 9/11 attack

“But…” I hear you say, the 9/11 attack and the London attack and the Madrid attack and the Bali attacks were all a direct result of the creation of Israel.

“But…” I hear you say, the creation of Israel was the direct result of the Jewish beliefs and their holy book.

“And so…” I say, the whole thing is based on religion and thank god I’m an atheist.
 
Keltoi said:
The expected 9-11 conspiracy drivel aside, I agree with your point about the actual threat to the average everyday citizen. However, the responsibility of a government is to provide stability and security for its citizens. The average everyday citizen isn't going to look at at event like 9-11 and say "Well, more people die of heart attacks, not a big deal". They will demand that their governments stop this kind of thing from ever happening again. That puts alot of pressure on a government to see results.

Also, I don't think the average everyday citizen is huddled in fear about anything. They know they have enemies, and they expect their government and themselves to counter that enemy.
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besides, that wasn't the point of my article. my point was is the use of al qaeda as a way to shut up the people.

how many people have you known in your life? how would you like to be put in jail because one of your co workers may have been a relative of somebody that worked for al qaeda, just because you may have a certain political view point, may be pro choice, or just because you may be a religous person ?
 
lilah said:
besides, that wasn't the point of my article. my point was is the use of al qaeda as a way to shut up the people.

how many people have you known in your life? how would you like to be put in jail because one of your co workers may have been a relative of somebody that worked for al qaeda, just because you may have a certain political view point, may be pro choice, or just because you may be a religous person ?
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Here in the states there are religious extremists who say outlandish things all the time and aren't silenced. In fact they get more air time than the average moderate.
 
Keltoi said:
Here in the states there are religious extremists who say outlandish things all the time and aren't silenced. In fact they get more air time than the average moderate.
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waco?
 
In Australia they can detain you for like 3-6 weeks without evidence or charge if they feel you're a terrorist LoL. So much for human rights.. just get arrested with no justification except a 'feeling'.
 
Keltoi said:
Here in the states there are religious extremists who say outlandish things all the time and aren't silenced. In fact they get more air time than the average moderate.
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that would be because those people controlling 'air time' would definitely be looking for those crazies; it fairs so much better for ratings than some boring guy telling the world how Islam isn't trying to kill everyone.
 
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