wilberhum
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I will take my chances. :skeleton:
Are morals derived from religion/God??
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I will take my chances. :skeleton:
Pygoscelis
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Are you seriously arguing in favour of a totalitarian dictatorship theocracy?
And you think that'll be GOOD for progress and human rights?
wilberhum
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Isn't it odd that he lives in the UK? I don't understand why these West Haters stay. I think it is just a case of denial. :skeleton:
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Ive noticed how Japan and Sweden are some of the most violent places on earth. Japan frenquently has entire cities destroyed by monsters.
Ok serious now. Japan and Sweden are probably some of the most secular contries in the world and are hardly falling apart and overall have some of the lowest crime rates in hte world. Where as if you look at the USA, Iraq, Iran or other very religous places you see high crime rates.
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That is because the Devil already owns Sweden and Japan. The Devil is still fighting for Iran and the USA so he's there more often and more bad things happen there.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
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lol, so the devil = less crime then?
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Yes. Because evil follows the Devil. And the devil need not spend time in the lands he already owns. He'd rather spend time fighting for new lands. So those unconquered lands are where evil happens most often, and that includes crime.
Y'know, I'm actually starting to make sense with this and it is scaring me.
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Ive noticed how Japan and Sweden are some of the most violent places on earth. Japan frenquently has entire cities destroyed by monsters.
Ok serious now. Japan and Sweden are probably some of the most secular contries in the world and are hardly falling apart and overall have some of the lowest crime rates in hte world. Where as if you look at the USA, Iraq, Iran or other very religous places you see high crime rates.
Crime rate in North Korea are also extremely low. Your point?
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what? well N korea obviously is trying to keep the people happy so godzilla doesnt come over. See he smells blood and he comes across from japan to S and N Korea. And we all know that Godzilla is crazy..
Serious now. What is yours? It was suggested by some on this thread that not having religion will ruin a country. Ive shown this to be false. Ive also shown that having religion will not save a country either.
What is yours?
Now i have to go. I have to go feed mothra.. Do you know how much cotton a giant mutant moth eats?
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Put the mothball down and step away...very slowly.
I wish you good luck then. You'll need it.
I am only against the globalisation of the democratic dictatorship. :thumbs_up
It is indeed odd to you to see how someone other than an arab or asian speaks in this way. Nothing against the west, just against their idiotic systems. Case of denial?! Lol. Healthy consience instead.
Ive noticed how Japan and Sweden are some of the most violent places on earth. Japan frenquently has entire cities destroyed by monsters.
Ok serious now. Japan and Sweden are probably some of the most secular contries in the world and are hardly falling apart and overall have some of the lowest crime rates in hte world. Where as if you look at the USA, Iraq, Iran or other very religous places you see high crime rates.
Crime is not the only measure stick to judge whether a society is falling apart.
If not having religion does not save a country, why blame religion then? What have you got to offer? If you have something to offer, and it makes so much sense, I wander why you do not stand for election and become the president and then show the world the path. It should not be very difficult for you to win the elections seeing that your ideas make sense!
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ranma1/2 said:
This entire post is a strawman argument. Maybe if you stop relying on emotional appeal (like Guliani against Ron Paul) and state the facts, we can progress in this ongoing discussion.
I never said that not having a religion will ruin a country. In fact, I support the contrary.
Did you know there are as many stars in the universe as there are sand grains in all the beaches of the world put together??
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All Ranma asserted is that there is no correlation in a prosperous country and religion. Does anyone who advocates a certain opinion have to be electable in your eyes?
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democratic dictatorship? Um... contradiction in terms there. If you speak of the USA and are saying it is not a democracy but only claims to be one for the image, then just say that. I'd even agree with you.
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Curious statement. What makes you believe that the U.S. is democratic for image only? From my personal standpoint, I think if anyone should be blamed for weakening the democratic tradition in the U.S. it is the voting public themselves. Not because of who they vote for, but because a majority of people don't even bother participating.