is smoking of weed haram?

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The only thing I can see is that we all seem to have an opinion, but nobody seems to able to quote a 100% acceptable source to verify their opinion.

I can not think of any justifiable reason for it's use, except for medical purposes in some conditions. Cobra venom can be used as a treatment for some conditions, but I would not encourage anybody to use it for a means of relaxation or pleasure.

Like all things if you can not find a justifiable reason to use something, why bother using it? If you think there is justification to use it, show the justification.
 
you really make cannabis sound permissable on this thread, i don't think you're aware of how bad it is to smoke, read my above post^

Please don't misunderstand...I definitely think it is haram to just smoke a joint to get high. That's plain and clear and shouldn't even have to be debated or questioned.

What I question is its use for medicinal purposes. I know a few cancer patients who use it. Their doctors agree that it is a lot easier for someone who is wicked nauseous to smoke a few puffs of a joint than to actually try to injest an anti-nausea pill. Anti nausea pills are kind of an oxymoron if you think about it.

I also know a dear friend who suffers greatly from Rheumatoid Arthritis. She actually grinds up the weed and mixes it with this milk mixture and uses it in her coffee in the morning and it is twice as effective in relieving her pain as naprosen or any of the analgesics out there.

So.............that being said, yes I have seen fatwas out there saying that recreational use is haram but I am very curious if anyone has seen one regarding medicinal use.

As for the 40 days I have seen someone question this before and they were told that is not true at all so I'd like to see proof of that as well.
 
is that your own observation or a fact? From what I seen weed users have no lifestyle.

We should be careful to avoid stereotypes here. Not every person who smokes weed is the same, trust me there are everything from teenage boys to od grandma's who indulge in it.

I also think it it can be addictive but it depends on the person. I have known friends and people at college who are able to limit themselves and never increase or decrease consumtion and also known people who progessively smoked more and more until they were almost in a comatozed state.

It's legal in Canada.

Sorry but this is not true. I have dual nationality and visited Canada on numerous occasions and never found this to be the case although the laws are more relaxed and rarely enforced it is still illegal.
 
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bro i'm not sure if thats correct, can you bring evidence for that please? jazaak Allaah khayr in advance. :) if u can't, then don't worry but i think its important we bring evidences from Qur'an or Sunnah before saying something like that insha Allaah.


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no sorry - but someone i know asked his teacher from a darul - uloom academy here in leicester, i think quite a few moulanas have said the same thing, i think i also read it somewhere that you become napaak etc, i'll try and find out

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yep found it, doesn't specifically refer to cannabis though

It is narrated that in Sahih Muslim: Every intoxicant is khamr (wine) and all Khamr is haraam.

Abdullah ibn Umar reports that the Prophet said, "Whosoever drinks wine, Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it again Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. If he repeats it for the fourth time Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will not accept it and he will be made to drink from the river of impurities (of the inmates of hell).

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yep found it, doesn't specifically refer to cannabis though

It is narrated that in Sahih Muslim: Every intoxicant is khamr (wine) and all Khamr is haraam.

Abdullah ibn Umar reports that the Prophet said, "Whosoever drinks wine, Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it again Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. If he repeats it for the fourth time Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will not accept it and he will be made to drink from the river of impurities (of the inmates of hell).

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Salam,

English language speaking Muslims really need to observe much more accurate translations from the original Arabic.

Yes, it is the intoxicating factor which is haram.

If a person can imbibe a smoky substance containing THC or nicotine or licorice or any other plant or other substance, without becoming intoxicated:- but rather can sustain their body in full self knowledge during the experience, but letting the harm done become harm only to their own future health outlook, then it is not haram.

but in the case of cannabis weed, that requires an extra-ordinary amount of hard labour. The mind need be enabled to sustain perfect self knowledge and not sleep, so never fall into unconsciousness, for the smoke to not be haram.

Certainly my description of my own use of, including that I weaned myself off a smoking habit through use of a tobacco, is describing a process that was haram in a way, but in that I am fully accountible for every consequence, and in that it tells a story of real recovery, it is not haram to be revealing the fact of myself. But only because at the start of this thread was a genuine question from a person acquainted with other persons described as smoking the cannabis weed, and of whom we can assume might need to be enabled to sustain their mind in Allah, because they are acquainted with the person whom started this thread.

The drinking from the river of impurities, is what I had described as is happening to persons whom have a bi-polar disorder, and are prescribed cannabis to prevent the psychotic manifestation from being apparent. It is a fact which enables other persons around them to be less likely to be harmed, but makes their own passage in the grave far more lengthy.

salam
 
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Weed is a intoxicant, ANYthing in islam that INTOXICATES the mind is haraam, you will be considered non - muslim for 40 days as i said before and no worship or deeds will be accepted during that time, i don't see how weed for painkiller is permissable:? , there must be other painkillers

cigerettes do not intoxicate the mind and take hundreds or thousands to really harm the body, so they're not really haraam

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Every analgesia is an intoxicant.
 
http://qa.**************/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=677&CATE=115

Is Smoking Permitted? Is it a Munkar?

Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani, SunniPath Academy Teacher

In the Reliance, Sh. Nuh translated a fatwa stating that smoking cigarettes is haram because it is like committing suicide on oneself due to the fact that doctors have come out and said that smoking does kill. . . . .


Everything in all my posts refers singularly to the fact herein mentioned more explicitly. Yet in my knowledge the fact is that every intoxicating substance, or even letting the self become intoxicated by sexual activity, is haram because it is actual suicide in that it is furthering the fact of Death existing among us, but just assuming: ' I can because I know it will kill me rather than harm another living being'.

We are all in life aiming for permanent redemption, and so every intoxicating activity must be held as haram.

The full story about why this is, is connected to the teaching of Isa and the Angel of Death. If anybody can brave the complete contradiction whilst sustaining themself fully in Islam, there is a post just now put into the thread about the Jinn I made, with a warning in the beginning of it to make it safe.

Salam
 
This whole subject, that many of us know of Muslims whom have indulged in smoking of cannabis, is obviously one which is attracting so much attentive audience in this forum that it must be of concern to really very many Muslims.

Why?

I recently came to know a five year old child whose mother had let him become addicted to passive smoking of her cannabis use, and yet she is a believer and raising him also, but she has no education as to it being wrong to so act. In fact she had been entrapped by criminals into false belief of either facing her own death immediately, or smoking. But her will is to attract the attention of such criminal mentality and cause its death with her own, and her son at five is already well minded himself in Allah in that regard. It was such a saddening shock meeting him. His mother is always encouraging his belief in his own inncence by enabling him to believe always in Angels.

What came into my mind in respect of his own exemplary behaviour and manners, within a very depraved life context, was that he is only alike to every adult male whom he has had any chance to admire.

Many Aboriginal men, are going through a process of causing that their external mind and memory is over used at a young age, and sort of short circuits parts of their brain function well ahead of their eventual death of feeling and moving ability. What it seems to enable is that these men, whom are all actual true believers, (those using drugs to not need to recall the past), are aware in the spirit of entering into the time of revelation of prophesy, and are more terrified of becoming causal to the inevitable outcomes, than they are of not having any capacity to gain benefit from their belief. What my question must be, is whether their acts are causing an alteration in the genetic potential.

That is because many have wondered if our species has become overly focussed upon the capacity to remember small details, to the expense of the capacity to stay attuned mentally with continuity in a story.

Why are we needing to worry about believers who are behaving in a way they themselves know to be haram?

Or is it that we had better just let them, and those among such persons whom will be redeemed will find their own way in Allah. They are finding out about why it is that Allah commands us to swallow more impurity if we using an intoxicant to gain knowledge. What they gain knowledge of is only that causal to death.

But then why are they so seeking?

Perhaps it is that many persons whom have no means, are worried about why other persons with much material wealth are not seeming to be accepting of their own death. That is certainly the case among Australian Aborigines, that many are seeking to learn what is the extent to which the total Human account for the places we are familiar with, is not yet been accepted. We seek to draw the Death upon ourself, if whom it is for, can not awaken to it.

But in the long run, what we are needing to learn is that we need forgive the Angel of Death. And forgiving Him is only possible by lessening how much death we drawn upon our own nature. I am certainly very worried about the five year old child I have met. But in that I can accept that he is happy and confident in being a well loved and nurtured Human child, despite the depravity surrounding he and his mother. (Her own mother will be released from a life sentence in prison this year, and she grew up from the middle of her childhood with her mother in prison, and even once committed a crime only to go into prison to visit with her mother, whom was born at Palm Island, QLD Australia – a place which used to be a mission/reserve which Aborigines were imprisoned at if they tried to run away from other mission areas, or if they engaged in traditional culture a mission. It is a place in which the shaytan were given power by the missionaries – there are good literary records of an instance of children being put into an adults prison cell at Palm Island in 1970, for no more than swearing at a school teacher. That reference is at the start of a book named “Why Weren't We Told” by the prominent Australian historian Henry Reynolds. I have a web log somewhere or other with an essay which is written in response to that book, and has a link at http://www.dreaminghaadjmosdancetime.blogger.com) Both mother and child have undoubtedly been completely entrapped into the pattern they are stuck in, and the mother's motivation in letting the child be exposed to the cannabis smoke, was a poorly educated example of want for her child to know itself in Allah. These individuals are not the only alike and all whom are able to sustain full belief in Allah while in such depravity must be within all our prayers.

If the matter of wondering why cannabis use is at all existent among believers arises, then I believe we must investigate the entire circumstance, otherwise how can we learn how to prevent in the future.

Is it true that man are wanting to forget only because they are in too much fear of the future? If so, then their forgetting is causal to that future worsening. Or is it true that men are actually in a stable state of catalysing a future in which an evolutionary possibility might arise. The difference between those two polar extremes of possibility is only whether men are well minded in loving their wives, and mothers their children.

salam
 
Salam,

English language speaking Muslims really need to observe much more accurate translations from the original Arabic.

Yes, it is the intoxicating factor which is haram.

If a person can imbibe a smoky substance containing THC or nicotine or licorice or any other plant or other substance, without becoming intoxicated:- but rather can sustain their body in full self knowledge during the experience, but letting the harm done become harm only to their own future health outlook, then it is not haram.

but in the case of cannabis weed, that requires an extra-ordinary amount of hard labour. The mind need be enabled to sustain perfect self knowledge and not sleep, so never fall into unconsciousness, for the smoke to not be haram.

Certainly my description of my own use of, including that I weaned myself off a smoking habit through use of a tobacco, is describing a process that was haram in a way, but in that I am fully accountible for every consequence, and in that it tells a story of real recovery, it is not haram to be revealing the fact of myself. But only because at the start of this thread was a genuine question from a person acquainted with other persons described as smoking the cannabis weed, and of whom we can assume might need to be enabled to sustain their mind in Allah, because they are acquainted with the person whom started this thread.

The drinking from the river of impurities, is what I had described as is happening to persons whom have a bi-polar disorder, and are prescribed cannabis to prevent the psychotic manifestation from being apparent. It is a fact which enables other persons around them to be less likely to be harmed, but makes their own passage in the grave far more lengthy.

salam

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I don't understand your posts, can you make them clearer?

But only because at the start of this thread was a genuine question from a person acquainted with other persons described as smoking the cannabis weed, and of whom we can assume might need to be enabled to sustain their mind in Allah

Are you suggesting that some people need to smoke cannabis to 'sustain their mind in Allah'?

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and what is 'analgesia'? can you speak understandable english
 
Salamualikum.
Like i mentioned before this thread should be closed because no one is perfect or able to answer this question over a forum or NET. We need a good and strong answer for a scholar. Beacsue were just going backwards and forwards to the same position we were in before. Worthless.

Unless you don't have evidence like brother Wordrobe said then don't post. This thread should be closed now because we aint getting nowhere at this rate.

Forgive me if i'z wrong inshallah.
Ma'assalama
 
Salamualikum.
Like i mentioned before this thread should be closed because no one is perfect or able to answer this question over a forum or NET. We need a good and strong answer for a scholar. Beacsue were just going backwards and forwards to the same position we were in before. Worthless.

Unless you don't have evidence like brother Wordrobe said then don't post. This thread should be closed now because we aint getting nowhere at this rate.

Forgive me if i'z wrong inshallah.
Ma'assalama

If you read closely, I have posted evidence, :?
 
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I think the questions been answered in the earlier parts of the thread. So i'll close it insha Allaah.


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