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So if someone is not a Muslim they will go to the hell fire. What about my family? I can place the most perfect argument for Islam to them but thats not gonna make them convert. They have all been so conditioned to believe Christianity that it seems like it is no use. Its not just my family it is also my close friends. Last week when i was leaving from my last day of school i saw that i had locked my keys in my car. So my friend Mike did a good deed by taking me home so i could get my extra keys. Then when we got back to the school i noticed that the keys in my car were turned on. So now my cars battery was dead........... So Michael took me back to his house where we got some cables and jumped my car. See he did these really good deeds. Had he not been there i would have been lost. I cant imagine my family in hell fire. A brother at the Masjid told me that putting up a great argument can pale in comparison to just acting different. He told me to just be a very polite and pious person. I feel like maybe it will be my fault if my family and friends go into the hell fire now because im not able to convert them.
 
Asalaamu 'alykum (peace be upon you) brother.


Your main duty right now is to convey the message clearly.. then pray to Allaah for their guidance. We will also pray for them insha Allaah (God willing.)


Also, any good deeds a person does in this life, if they're not doing it to please Allaah or for the hereafter, then there reward would be in this life. i.e. if someone worked hard to do good to get popular for example, then Allaah may give them popularity in this world instead of the hereafter.

Also, if someone does an act of worship for Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon them) for example, then these people will be required to get their reward off them on the Day of Judgement. However the reward will be with no-one except Allaah on that day.



I also want to show you this narration since it's really sad.. and it occurred within the life of Allaah's Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him):


Abu Talib’s Death:
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In Rajab, the tenth year of the Prophethood, Abu Talib fell ill and passed away, six months after leaving the confinement at Ash-Sh‘ib. In another version, Abu Talib breathed his last in Ramadan, three days prior to the death of Khadijah (RA). On the authority of Al-Musaiyab, when Abu Talib was on the death bed, the Prophet
entered the room where he saw Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah. He requested his uncle: "My uncle, you just make a profession that there is no true god but Allâh, and I will bear testimony before Allâh (of your being a believer)".

Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah addressing him said: "Abu Talib, would you abandon the religion of ‘Abdul-Muttalib?" The Messenger of Allâh
constantly requested him (to accept his offer), and (on the other hand) was repeated the same statement (of Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah) — till Abu Talib gave his final decision and he stuck to the religion of ‘Abdul-Muttalib and refused to profess that there is no true god but Allâh. Upon this the Messenger of Allâh
remarked: "By Allâh, I will persistently beg pardon for you till I am forbidden to do so (by Allâh)".

It was then that Allâh, the Magnificent and Glorious revealed this verse:

"It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allâh’s forgiveness for the Mushrikûn (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief)." [9:113]


And it was said to the Messenger of Allâh
: "Verily! You (O Muhammad
) guide not whom you like." [28:56]

 It goes without saying that Abu Talib was very much attached to Muhammad
. For forty years, Abu Talib had been the faithful friend — the prop of his childhood, the guardian of his youth and in later life a very tower of defense. The sacrifices to which Abu Talib exposed himself and his family for the sake of his nephew, while yet incredulous of his mission, stamp his character as singularly noble and unselfish. The Prophet
did his best to persuade his octogenarian uncle to make profession of the true faith, but he remained obdurate and stuck to the paganism of his forefathers, and thus could not achieve complete success. Al-‘Abbas bin ‘Abdul-Muttalib narrated that he said to the Prophet
"You have not been of any avail to your uncle (Abu Talib) (though) by Allâh, he used to protect you and get angry on your behalf." The Prophet
said: "He is in a shallow fire, and had it not been for me, he would have been at the bottom of the (Hell) Fire."

Abu Sa‘id Al-Khudri narrated that he heard the Prophet
say, when the mention of his uncle was made, "I hope that my intercession may avail him, and he be placed in a shallow fire that rises up only to his heels."

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We will continue praying for their guidance, and we pray you have the courage and strength to convey the message clearly to them and that they be rightly guided. ameen.
 
assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

i hope Allah bestows ample amount of sakeena and understanding into your heart bro :).


firstly bro i cant possible understand what it feels like, i wont pretend to understand but as a brother allow me to say a few things.

first : Never lose hope :)

second : Allah knows best, no matter what happens Allah knows whats happening for what reason, Allah says in the quran that you may dislike something but ALlah knows its good for you. subhanAlalh

thirdly: ALlah guides whom he wills in his infinite wisdom bro... and Allah is most just


shaytaans always trying to mess with us, DONT LET HIM!
Allah IS doing whats MOST JUST! Allah knows what is IN THE HEARTS so he will do whats best inshaAllah.


i will pray for you bro, right now inshaAllah

may Allah give us all guidance
 
No-One is a kafar except those who hide the truth after they KNOW it

If real Christian and jewish people were kuffaar they would have not been called ahl al-kitaab and we would be prohibited their food as well as interfaith marriage
 
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Asalamualaikum,

Brother dont give up your dawah to your family and friends you love; its matter of time that this dunya will end soon. I understand your love for them; everybody love their family and does not want to lose them. Prophet Mohamed (P.B.U.H) experience his beloved uncle Abu Talib died as a non-muslim, it was great lose to him. Abu Talib defend the Prophet (P.B.U.H) from mushrakin, and protect him from enemy. Spread the dawah to your family, and tell them the truth about this dunya.
 
My family are non Muslim, they dislike Islam.

But hey it's their descion, of course it is upsetting, specially when you know for example that your mother understands what you are saying but chooses to turn away.

I guess its another test in life.

Edit: Sometimes I do feel guilty, I think, if only i'd be more strong and firm and give more da'wah and so on. But in the end I know they will not go hell unless they deserve it and I will not unless I deserve it.
 
thanks a lot
i hadnt even thought of the Prophets(pbuh) situation with his uncle. I knew the story but i hadnt considered how hard it must have been for him.

I know i cant lose hope
i will make dua
because anything is easy for Allah

Alhumdulilah
 
^^InshaAllah everything will be alright. you'll be in our Du'as InshaAllah. May Allah(swt) guide ur family and friends InshaAllah, Ameen :)

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michaelconvert said:
So if someone is not a Muslim they will go to the hell fire. What about my family? I can place the most perfect argument for Islam to them but thats not gonna make them convert. They have all been so conditioned to believe Christianity that it seems like it is no use. Its not just my family it is also my close friends. Last week when i was leaving from my last day of school i saw that i had locked my keys in my car. So my friend Mike did a good deed by taking me home so i could get my extra keys. Then when we got back to the school i noticed that the keys in my car were turned on. So now my cars battery was dead........... So Michael took me back to his house where we got some cables and jumped my car. See he did these really good deeds. Had he not been there i would have been lost. I cant imagine my family in hell fire. A brother at the Masjid told me that putting up a great argument can pale in comparison to just acting different. He told me to just be a very polite and pious person. I feel like maybe it will be my fault if my family and friends go into the hell fire now because im not able to convert them.
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tell them to go on the forum akhiria (after dead) and tell them to read the death of a bad person and do u pray full namaaz
 
yea inshaAllah dont stop giving them da'wah. the best form of da'wah is also through your actions and showing a good change in character thanks to Islam being in your life. they will see how much in changed you and maybe take interest in it. Allah gives guidance and conceals guidance from whom he wills, so remember to make du'a for them inshaAllah and whatever Allah decides for them is His will and power.

i know it may seem hopeless and stressful at times but as someone mentioned before... this is another test from Allah and inshaAllah you'll prevail!
 
And Michael, remember that if your family is non-Muslim, especially if they are Christian, they may be feeling some of the same concerns with regard to you and your eternal destination that you are expressing that you feel for them. Understanding that you have these feelings and how you want to act on them, and see that they are living with the same thing in reverse, may help you to better understand some of the things you may experience in your home.

My Muslim daughter and I get along very well, but it does take some mutual sensitivity on both our parts.
 
Not all non-Muslims are kufaar

^^ I was thinking that same thought! wa salaam

BTW If real Christian and jewish people were kuffaar they would have not been called ahl al-kitaab and we would be prohibited their food as well as interfaith marriage
 
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Greetings, Michael

I have been in this forum for a year. I have heard and read many 'perfect arguments for Islam' - and yet it has not 'converted me'.
It has given me an appreciation of what Muslims believe and a respect for some elements of Islam, but it has not convinced me that Islam is the one true religion.

Believe me, I have heard the arguments and I have pondered them in my heart. I have sought God about them. ... And I have come away even stronger in my Christian faith than I was before.

What I am trying to say is that whatever convinced you that Islam is the right path, may not convince your family at all.
By the end of the day, we all believe what we believe for our own reasons. Without that inner conviction our beliefs would be just hollow words rather than a true expression of our faith. And only God can give us that inner conviction ...

Feeling you need to do or say the right thing to convert your loved ones can be a terrible burden. Believe me, I know ...
Try to trust God with your family and yourself. Trust him to make his presence felt amongst you all and to lead you all in his ways.

May God be with you.
 
michaelconvert said:
So if someone is not a Muslim they will go to the hell fire. What about my family? I can place the most perfect argument for Islam to them but thats not gonna make them convert. They have all been so conditioned to believe Christianity that it seems like it is no use. Its not just my family it is also my close friends. Last week when i was leaving from my last day of school i saw that i had locked my keys in my car. So my friend Mike did a good deed by taking me home so i could get my extra keys. Then when we got back to the school i noticed that the keys in my car were turned on. So now my cars battery was dead........... So Michael took me back to his house where we got some cables and jumped my car. See he did these really good deeds. Had he not been there i would have been lost. I cant imagine my family in hell fire. A brother at the Masjid told me that putting up a great argument can pale in comparison to just acting different. He told me to just be a very polite and pious person. I feel like maybe it will be my fault if my family and friends go into the hell fire now because im not able to convert them.
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Michael i believe you have done your job. The message may fall on deaf ears but keep speaking to them. :thumbs_up

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michaelconvert said:
So if someone is not a Muslim they will go to the hell fire. What about my family? I can place the most perfect argument for Islam to them but thats not gonna make them convert. They have all been so conditioned to believe Christianity that it seems like it is no use. Its not just my family it is also my close friends. Last week when i was leaving from my last day of school i saw that i had locked my keys in my car. So my friend Mike did a good deed by taking me home so i could get my extra keys. Then when we got back to the school i noticed that the keys in my car were turned on. So now my cars battery was dead........... So Michael took me back to his house where we got some cables and jumped my car. See he did these really good deeds. Had he not been there i would have been lost. I cant imagine my family in hell fire. A brother at the Masjid told me that putting up a great argument can pale in comparison to just acting different. He told me to just be a very polite and pious person. I feel like maybe it will be my fault if my family and friends go into the hell fire now because im not able to convert them.
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It's not up to you to 'convert' people, you just need to be the best Muslim you can. If you are a recent convert then it's more important at this stage to study the basics of Islam, perfect your prayers and read qur'an with a good tafsir.

I would say your responsibility to others is to behave towards them as a good Muslim should, with respect and kindness and mildness, and if the opportunity arises to discuss Islam then do so in a good way, not becoming annoyed or insulting their beliefs. If you can manage that then there will be no blame on you if they don't convert, and Allah ta'ala knows best.

I have been Muslim for about 9 years, alhamdulillah, and my family are a mixture of practising Christian and I suppose agnostic. Unfortunately, in the beginning I did have a lot of 'heated debates' with the Christian ones, may Allah forgive me it was from ignorance of how to debate Islamically, and a naiive desire to share what I was learning with them - which they took as an attack on their beliefs.

I know it is difficult to imagine any of our loved ones in the hellfire, but I would urge you to put all your trust in Allah ta'ala, He is The Just, and he is the One who knows our hearts. On the day of judgement no-one will get a punishment that they do not deserve.

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Allah is all knowing, and inshallah your familly will understand more clearly of what Islam is.

personally my advice is perhaps to give a book regarding islam (a basic book-for learners).

Be patient, dont stop trying,
and inshallah allah we send his blessings upon your familly.
ameen.
 
I understand your sadness Br. Michael. Like all the brothers and sisters said, don't give up trying and above all making duaa. Duaa is the weapon of the believer. It can be difficult conveying a message verbally, so perhaps you'd like to give them some videos of Ahmad Deedat, May Allah grant him jannah. Ameen. He made many Christians rethink and re-examine their faith, especially those aspects of the Bible and Quran that deal with the divine mission of our beloved Prophet (PBUH) and Jesus alaihi islam.

He was also the founder of IPCI where you can obtain free dawah material which will aid you in your goal inshaAllah. There's book and DVD's on offer too. I also advise you to look into Dr Zakir Naik's brilliant works (available from the site too). I'm sure that by arming yourself with the right tools, you will provide enough evidence to your family to sit up and take note and hopefully to accept Islam.


May Allah's help and guidence be with you. Ameen.

here's the link to IPCI inshaAllah.

http://www.ahmed-deedat.co.za/homepage.asp
 
AOA
Brother, Keep telling and inviting to the truth. but u need not to worry. Every one has to be answered his own deeds.
Allah knows the best
 
''He told me to just be a very polite and pious person'' THis is the best thing he/she could have said.

Nobody goes to hellfire, Allah alone decides. If a person has shown good intentions towards another then that ALONE will count. not what religion you followed.
 
Nobody goes to hellfire, Allah alone decides. If a person has shown good intentions towards another then that ALONE will count. not what religion you followed.
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we don't point with a finger to a person wether he will go to hellfire or not, but Allah swt tells us, that if you associate partners to Allah and you die in that state, that sin is not forgiven. But all other sins are forgiven, except Shirk/Kufr.

Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin. (AN-NISA 4:48)
 

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