Things in Islam I am curious about...

Dear Gene:
Here was a great lecturing by Dr. Ahmad deedat that answers your query as to why there is so much love for the letter J in English http://www.jamaat.net/name/name3.html .. hence Isa becomes Jesus, Yayha becomes John..
Yael to Joel
Yehuda to Juda
Yeheshua to Joshua
Yusuf to Joseph
Yunus to Jonah
Yesus to Jesus
Yehowa to Jehovah
will tell you this much however about marmaduke pickthall -- May Allah be pleased with him, was British, from a very elite family, he converted to Islam and decided to translate the Quran, The translation is Archaic, and given that Arabic isn't his mother tongue, he truly should be applauded for his marvelous effort. You can do a simple search on him and read more about his background...
Yahya or yohanna is the chosen name to John the Baptist, and was unlike any name given at the time.... sad that such a rare name should become so common, but much is lost in the translation-- surely you know, that all religion has come to you from the east, and no one spoke English in that part of the world... however this also should allude to you, how much is in fact lost to you in the translation -- what makes a gifted linguist? you can capture the essence -- or capture the words-- the result is always a mismatch-- one thing will be lost to you... so one either makes an effort to learn Arabic, reads more than one source to get a general picture, or can simply be satisfied that "Yahya" should mean John as you recognize him in Latin terms, and forgo that his name was a rare gift bestowed by G-D over what kind of rare person he was... It is a matter of prioritizing importance.

peace!
 
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Salaam/peace ,


Careful, it sounds a lot like saying, one thing and meaning another the way you just put it. ....it would be obvious that the verse was in error...



ummmm, where is the contradiction / scope for confusion ?


God , for the first time , called one of His elect by that name
( Yahya )
.If u can find another Quranic verse that God called some other Prophet by the name Yahya , then it's ok for u & us to be confused :confused: , now read the verse again ---




His name shall be Yahya:
on none by that name

Have We conferred distinction

before


so , do u know any other Prophet of Islam who was also called Yahya before ???? :hmm:
 
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Careful, it sounds a lot like saying, one thing and meaning another the way you just put it. And it sounds like the only reason that it has to mean another is because if it actually meant what it really says, then it would be obvious that the verse was in error. I think if you just stay with the explanation that John the Baptist's name was both Yahya and Yohan (or John) and that no one had ever been named Yahya before (though lots of people had been named John before), and the Arabic original of the Qur'an doesn't say "John" but "Yahya" you'll be better off. Maybe someone else could prove different about Yahya, but I can't. However, if you anyone ever decides to say that "John" is an appropriate interpretation of "Yahya", then I'll point to mutliple cases of people named John in various languages long before Zakariya so named his son the same.

We say what the Qur'an says and that we affirm. Anything else is mere speculation in this regard. The Jews in the time of prophet Muhammed did not object to such specification of the name and nor did the christians. If the prophet did not see the need to expand on such we do not see the need to do so too. The important thing is that it is said that Yahya was his name and that he was a prophet. This is enough as an explanation. There is no need to delve into what this writer or that one (and since none of them are muslim schoolars their oppinion does not carry any weight at all) have come up with. Historical facts show that no one from the people of the book at that time and afterwards did not dispute such a name. So we say that Yahya was the son of Zakhariyah and he was a prophet. That is it.
 
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We say what the Qur'an says and that we affirm. Anything else is mere speculation in this regard. The Jews in the time of prophet Muhammed did not object to such specification of the name and nor did the christians. If the prophet did not see the need to expand on such we do not see the need to do so too. The important thing is that it is said that Yahya was his name and that he was a prophet. This is enough as an explanation. There is no need to delve into what this writer or that one (and since none of them are muslim schoolars their oppinion does not carry any weight at all) have come up with. Historical facts show that no one from the people of the book at that time and afterwards did not dispute such a name. So we say that Yahya was the son of Zakhariyah and he was a prophet. That is it.

Dear Sunnih, thank you for your response. There are many Christians who like to answer questions with the phrase: "The Bibles says it. I believe it. That settles it." I find that it is rarely worth trying to have an intelligent conversation with people who think that way, for they are not open to exploring their faith or even learning more about it, for they already have everything settled. Now I have met a Muslim who would merely change the name of the book at the beginning of the phrase.
 
The words "John the Baptist" don't exist in the Quran, or even for that matter Yahya the Baptist. Yahya is mentioned in the Quran along with Maryam (Mary) who was taken care of by Zechariah, Yahya's father. By association, English translations often substitute John for "Yaayah" because that name is associated with the same historical person. Likewise Noah is often substituted for the name of Prophet Nuh in the Quran. I believe that you indicated that Yahya was not a common name and that it may not have been used prior to this point.

Not saying that this is the way it is, but according to a commentary note in Yusuf Ali translation of the Quran: "....It does not mean that the name was given for the first time, for we read of a Johana the son of Careah in II Kings, xxv. 23, an otherwise obscure man. It means that Allah had, for the first time, called one of His elect by that name." This seems a bit like twisting words around a bit to make it fit to me though.

Dear MustafaMc, that was put very well. Thank-you for clarifying a difficult passage for me. I think I finally get what you had been trying to articulate before. Perhaps the name was not new (because it wasn't), but this was the first time that Allah had called someone by the name "Yahya". (The fact that a latter translator might translate it into John is irrelevant.) Have I got it now?

(Thanks to the rest of you, too. Just this time -- if indeed I am now understanding correctly -- the way MustafaMc happened to word it was the most helpful.)
 
Dear MustafaMc, that was put very well. Thank-you for clarifying a difficult passage for me. I think I finally get what you had been trying to articulate before. Perhaps the name was not new (because it wasn't), but this was the first time that Allah had called someone by the name "Yahya". (The fact that a latter translator might translate it into John is irrelevant.) Have I got it now?

(Thanks to the rest of you, too. Just this time -- if indeed I am now understanding correctly -- the way MustafaMc happened to word it was the most helpful.)

I believe you have it. Actually there are several sources for John in english. It is also a diminutive form of Johathan or Jonathan which came from the Gaelic Ionatan. That also meant "Gift of the Gods" so there is some logic that John would have had the meaning of "Gift of God" by association.

Much confusion has come from the desire to Anglicise the Biblical and Qur'anic names many simply have no English counterpart so in some cases the original may now be lost.
 
Dear Sunnih, thank you for your response. There are many Christians who like to answer questions with the phrase: "The Bibles says it. I believe it. That settles it." I find that it is rarely worth trying to have an intelligent conversation with people who think that way, for they are not open to exploring their faith or even learning more about it, for they already have everything settled. Now I have met a Muslim who would merely change the name of the book at the beginning of the phrase.

Sorry I am replying now as I just noticed it now.

Surely you don't expect muslims not to base their understanding of religious matters on the Qur'an. When we talk about Islamic beliefs then we identify it from Islamic sources. The questions about Islam come from our book. Just like when you clarify the Christian stand by quoting from the Bible. In your view too the Christianity comes from your book. Each has his/her beliefs and book they follow. Surely when you say "having an inteligent conversation", you do not want to indicate that talking based on religious books is not inteligent. I hope so. Any way, if a Christian was to say to me: Listen, I might not have the answer to all the questions you ask but this is my book (the Bible), I believe in it and I will not change my views just because I haven't got all the answers. My book says so and I believe it. I would be ok with that and I will state: To you your religion and to me mine. So what is wrong with that?!
 
Sorry I am replying now as I just noticed it now.

Surely you don't expect muslims not to base their understanding of religious matters on the Qur'an. When we talk about Islamic beliefs then we identify it from Islamic sources. The questions about Islam come from our book. Just like when you clarify the Christian stand by quoting from the Bible. In your view too the Christianity comes from your book. Each has his/her beliefs and book they follow. Surely when you say "having an inteligent conversation", you do not want to indicate that talking based on religious books is not inteligent. I hope so. Any way, if a Christian was to say to me: Listen, I might not have the answer to all the questions you ask but this is my book (the Bible), I believe in it and I will not change my views just because I haven't got all the answers. My book says so and I believe it. I would be ok with that and I will state: To you your religion and to me mine. So what is wrong with that?!

Nothing at all wrong with that.

One of the problems with the internet is that it does not carry tone of voice (not even when using smileys). Sometimes we miss that a statement is said in jest. Other times we miss that a statement is said without arrogance. I think I might have missed something akin to the last one in your previous post. My apologies.
 
Nothing at all wrong with that.

One of the problems with the internet is that it does not carry tone of voice (not even when using smileys). Sometimes we miss that a statement is said in jest. Other times we miss that a statement is said without arrogance. I think I might have missed something akin to the last one in your previous post. My apologies.

What you say about internet is very true indeed. No need for apologies as there was no offence taken. Take care.:thumbs_up
 
Periodically, in a variety of discussions, posters will make general comments like: "We are all human, everyone makes mistakes." "Everyone sins." "No one is perfect." Such comments are usually well accepted. But occassionally, one of those comments will be made and someone will add the phrase "including Muhammad" and then it will illicit a negative reaction. Such as the following:
what do you mean evryone including prophet muhammad (pbuh) make mistakes? Can you name a mistake the prophet ever made?

I am confused by this reaction. I know that Islam does not claim that Muhammad was sinless, yet whenever that is explicity mentioned, even if by another Muslim, the poster is usually challenged to give an example as if to deny that it could ever actually be true. Why is it necessary to specific the exact sin? Is it not enough to recognize that the prophets were all human and in their humanness they were not perfect? That only God is perfect.
 
Hi.

Another thread made me curious. A Muslim man was in some distress over his difficultys in stopping himself from veiwing Pornography.

Am i right in assuming that looking at a (fully clothed) female who you are not wed to, and having impure thoughts about her, or admiring her physically is Haram?

If so then praying for for forgiveness will absolve that, but what about if , as in the case above it's a repeatedly occuring event.
I suppose what I'm asking is how taboo is it.

(Oh and by the way, I'm not going to start spamming about womens rights, i just wanted to know about this.)
 
Hi.

Another thread made me curious. A Muslim man was in some distress over his difficultys in stopping himself from veiwing Pornography.

Am i right in assuming that looking at a (fully clothed) female who you are not wed to, and having impure thoughts about her, or admiring her physically is Haram?

If so then praying for for forgiveness will absolve that, but what about if , as in the case above it's a repeatedly occuring event.
I suppose what I'm asking is how taboo is it.

(Oh and by the way, I'm not going to start spamming about womens rights, i just wanted to know about this.)

Actually there alot of article on "lowering your gaze" here in this board.

Please go to the below link :

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-islam/33009-articles-virtue-lowering-gaze.html

Realize the fact that the great Sahabas were humans beings too. Biologically they were no different from us, they too had desires and temptations of the human species, and yet they controlled them in the best of ways. We can too, insha Allah. To posses sensual passions is Human, to control them is Muslim.



When confronted with a luring situation, like passing by a non-mahram on the street, office, or a school, Satan is constantly tempting us to glare at her with evil thoughts. Satan is probably excitingly saying with a big smile `Yes', `Yes', `Yes', when we steer into the bait he is setting. During these situations immediately and consciously realize that when we give a second or following glances, we are obeying Satan. "O you who believe, follow not the footsteps of the devil..."(24:21). By immediately averting our gazes and disobeying Satan, we are giving him a one two punch in the face which leaves him frustrated, accursed and defeated.

Shari`ah came to forbid the ways that lead to immorality, one of which is looking at non-mahram (a mahram is a non-marriageable relative) women. Almighty Allah says: “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts)” (An-Nur:30) In his commentary on this verse, Imam Ibn Kathir wrote: "This is a command from Allah to His believing slaves to lower their gaze and refrain from looking at that which is forbidden to them. So they should not look at anything except that which they are permitted to look at, and they should lower their gaze and refrain from looking at forbidden things. If it so happens that a person’s gaze accidentally falls upon something forbidden, he should quickly avert his gaze."


It was narrated that Jarir ibn `Abdullah said: “I asked the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) about an accidental glance, and he commanded me to avert my gaze.” (Muslim) Imam An-Nawawi said: "What is meant by an “accidental glance” is when a person’s glance unintentionally falls upon a non-mahram woman. There is no sin on him for the first glance, but he must avert his gaze immediately. If he averts his gaze immediately there is no sin on him, but if he continues looking, then he will be a sinner, because of this hadith, for the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) commanded him to avert his gaze, and Allah says: “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts)” (An-Nur: 30)
 
and also this...

http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-etiquettes/30898-what-s-wrong-lustful-gaze.html

Your real problem is what you mentioned about looking at women, even if that is with the aim of marriage, as you say. Whoever looks at women spoils his religious commitment and weakens his faith, and he no longer appreciates his wife and he spends all his time thinking another woman. This, of course, puts him off his wife even more and makes him think more of a second marriage, which he thinks is the way out. Whoever is aware of how people are will realize that because of this haraam looking, what was beautiful yesterday becomes ugly to them today, and as time passes, what was new becomes old and boring, so they will live a restless life and will never settle down, and one wife or two wives will never be for them.

Hence we say: Fear Allaah, may He be exalted, and lower your gaze and avoid looking at that which Allaah has forbidden. Go back to your wife and think about some of her attractive features and her good qualities, and you will find a lot of goodness, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No believing man should hate a believing woman. If he dislikes one of her qualities, he will be pleased with another.” Narrated by Muslim (2672).

If a person wants to get married, it is not permissible for him to look at every woman who is coming and going, rather it is permissible for him to look at the one to whom he wants to propose marriage when he has decided to propose. So if he is told about a woman and he is pleased with her religious commitment, character and family, then all that remains is for him to look at her. It is permissible for him to do that whether it is with or without her knowledge, a look without desire.

As for what some people do, looking freely at women right and left, on the grounds that they will choose one of them, this is haraam and is not approved of in sharee’ah or accepted by sound human nature; no one would accept this for himself or his family.

We think that you understand all of that, and that deep down you understand that choosing a second wife by looking at women who are coming and going, is nothing but a trick by means of which the shaytaan has fooled you into haraam looking which will only make you more restless, in addition to it being disobedience towards the Most Merciful, may He be exalted, and obedience to the Shaytaan and falling into his trap.
 
Actually there alot of article on "lowering your gaze" here in this board.

Please go to the below link :

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-islam/33009-articles-virtue-lowering-gaze.html



Though I'm sure Barney can speak for himself, the way I understood the question there is a second issue beyond whether or not pornography and lust are haraam. There is question about is forgiveness available for it when "it's a repeatedly occuring event"?

I would think in considering that question the sin could be any haraam act, the issue has to do with someone who has given themselves over to it and has made it an habitual act. Though they continue to seek forgiveness, they also immediately afterward return to the sin, perhaps causing doubt about the genuineness of any repentance that may be involved.
 
Hi Grace Seeker. :)


I think this answers the question well:


On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (Peace be upon him), from among the things he reports from his Lord (mighty and sublime be He), is that he said:

A servant [of Allah's] committed a sin and said: O Allah, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for sins. Do what you wish, for I have forgiven you.

It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari).


The main principle is that when you sin, you should feel regretful for that and repent to Allaah for your wrongdoing. If a person persists in sins without any regret and stops repenting, that's when the problem comes up. Because they are feeling secure from the punishment of Allaah, which is in of itself a major sin. However, to give up hope of Allaah's Mercy is also a great major sin since the person feels that there sin is too big for Allaah to forgive them.

Therefore the person should feel regret, repent, and strive not to do that sin again. However, if they slip - they will find their Lord the Most Merciful.



And Allaah knows best.


Regards.
 
Periodically, in a variety of discussions, posters will make general comments like: "We are all human, everyone makes mistakes." "Everyone sins." "No one is perfect." Such comments are usually well accepted. But occassionally, one of those comments will be made and someone will add the phrase "including Muhammad" and then it will illicit a negative reaction. Such as the following:

I am confused by this reaction. I know that Islam does not claim that Muhammad was sinless, yet whenever that is explicity mentioned, even if by another Muslim, the poster is usually challenged to give an example as if to deny that it could ever actually be true. Why is it necessary to specific the exact sin? Is it not enough to recognize that the prophets were all human and in their humanness they were not perfect? That only God is perfect.

Hi. I will post something I have ready and I hope that it clarifies the matter. However if more is needed I can elaborate on that God willing:

The Prophets’ task was to convey the message from Allaah even though they were human, hence the issue of infallibility may be examined from two angles:

1 – Infallibility in conveying the message

2 – Infallibility from human error

Firstly: With regard to the first issue, the Prophets were infallible in conveying the message from Allaah. They did not conceal anything that Allaah had revealed to them, and they did not add anything from themselves. Allaah said to His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Messenger (Muhammad)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allaah will protect you from mankind”
[al-Maa'idah 5:67]

“And if he (Muhammad) had forged a false saying concerning Us (Allaah),
We surely would have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might),
And then We certainly would have cut off his life artery (aorta),
And none of you could have withheld Us from (punishing) him”
[al-Haaqqah 69:44-47]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And he (Muhammad) withholds not a knowledge of the Unseen”
[al-Takweer 81:24]

Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his commentary on this verse: He is not stingy with that which Allaah has revealed to him, concealing some of it. Rather he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the most trustworthy of the inhabitants of heaven and the people of earth, the one who conveys the message of his Lord, the faithful conveyor (of the message). He does not withhold any part of it, from rich or poor, from ruler or subject, from male or female, from city-dweller or Bedouin. Hence Allaah sent him to an illiterate and ignorant nation, and he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not die until they had become knowledgeable scholars, steeped in knowledge…End quote.

So with regard to conveying the religion of his Lord, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not make any mistakes at all, whether major or minor, rather he was infallible and under the constant protection of Allaah.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 6/371:
All the Muslims are unanimously agreed that the Prophets (peace be upon them) – especially Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – are infallible and protected from error in that which they conveyed from Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“By the star when it goes down (or vanishes).
Your companion (Muhammad) has neither gone astray nor has erred.
Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
It is only a Revelation revealed.
He has been taught (this Qur’aan) by one mighty in power [Jibreel (Gabriel)]”
[al-Najm 53:1-5]

Our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is infallible in all that he conveyed from Allaah, in word and deed and in what he approved of. There is no dispute on this point among the scholars.End quote.

The ummah is agreed that the Messengers are infallible in their conveying the message. They did not forget anything that Allaah revealed to them, except for things that were abrogated. And Allaah guaranteed His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that he would remember it and would not forget it, except for that which Allaah wanted him to forget, and He guaranteed to remember the whole Qur’aan in his heart. Allaah said (interpretation of the meaning):
“We shall make you to recite (the Qur’aan), so you (O Muhammad) shall not forget (it)”
[al-A’la 87:7]

“It is for Us to collect it and to give you (O Muhammad) the ability to recite it (the Qur’aan).
And when We have recited it to you [O Muhammad through Jibreel (Gabriel)], then follow its (the Qur’aan’s) recitation”[al-Qiyaamah 75:17-18]

Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah] said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 18/7]:
The verses which point to the Prophethood of the Prophets indicate that they are infallible with regard to the message that they convey from Allaah, so what they convey from their Lord can only be true. This is the meaning of Prophethood and this implies [?] that Allaah tells [the Prophet] of the unseen and he tells the people of the unseen. So the Messenger is commanded to call people and to convey the message to them.End quote.

Secondly: With regard to the Prophets as people, they may make mistakes. This may be discussed as follows:

1 –They do not commit major sins

With regard to major sins, the Prophets do not commit major sins at all, and they are protected from such major sins both before their missions began or afterwards.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/319:
The view that the Prophets are infallible and protected against committing major sins, as opposed to minor sins, is the view of the majority of Muslim scholars and of all groups. It is also the view of the scholars of tafseer and hadeeth and fuqaha’. Indeed, nothing has been narrated from any of the salaf, imams, Sahaabah, Taabi’een and those who followed them except that which is in accordance with this view.End quote.

2 – Matters that have nothing to do with conveying the message and the revelation.
With regard to minor sins, these may be committed by them, or by some of them. Hence the majority of scholars are of the view that they are not infallible when it comes to minor sins. But if they committed such actions they were not left to persist therein, rather Allaah pointed that out to them and they hastened to repent therefrom.

The evidence that they might commit minor sins and that they were not left to persist therein is the verses in which Allaah says of Adam (interpretation of the meaning):
“Thus did Adam disobey his Lord, so he went astray.
Then his Lord chose him, and turned to him with forgiveness, and gave him guidance”
[Ta-Ha 20:121-122]

This indicates that Adam committed sin, but he was not left to persist therein, and he repented to Allaah from that.

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He said: ‘This is of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) doing, verily, he is a plain misleading enemy.’
He said: ‘My Lord! Verily, I have wronged myself, so forgive me.’ Then He forgave him. Verily, He is the Oft Forgiving, the Most Merciful”
[al-Qasas 28:15-16]

So Moosa (peace be upon him) confessed his sin and sought forgiveness from Allaah after he killed the Egyptian, and Allaah forgave him his sin.

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and he [Dawood] sought forgiveness of his Lord, and he fell down prostrate and turned (to Allaah) in repentance.

So We forgave him that, and verily, for him is a near access to Us, and a good place of (final) return (Paradise)”
[Saad 38:23-24]

Dawood’s sin was hastening to pass judgement before hearing the case of the second disputant.
And our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was rebuked by his Lord for several things that are mentioned in the Qur’aan, such as the following (interpretation of the meaning):
“O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allaah has allowed to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allaah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Tahreem 66:1]

This refers to the well-known story with some of his wives.

The words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):
“(The Prophet) frowned and turned away.

Because there came to him the blind man (i.e. ‘Abdullaah bin Umm Maktoom, who came to the Prophet while he was preaching to one or some of the Quraysh chiefs)”
[‘Abasa 80:1-2]

This is the famous story of the great companion ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Umm Maktoom and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), when Allaah rebuked him.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/320:

What has been narrated from the majority of scholars is that they (the Prophets) are not infallible with regard to minor sins, but they are not left to persist therein. They do not say that this does not happen under any circumstances. The first group from whom it was narrated that they are infallible in all cases, and who say that the most, are the Raafidis (Shi’ah), who say that they are infallible and protected even against forgetfulness and misunderstanding.
End quote.

Some people think this is too much to suggest that Prophets may commit sin, and misinterpret some of the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah which indicate that. Two specious arguments lead them to do that:

(i) – The fact that Allaah has commanded us to follow the Messengers and take them as our example. The command to follow them is taken as meaning that everything they did is an example for us to follow, and that every action and belief of theirs is an act of worship. If we suggest that that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) committed a sin, there will be a dilemma, because that implies that we are commanded to imitate this sin which was committed by the Prophet because we are commanded to follow his example, but at the same time we should no agree with it or do it, because it is a sin.
This argument is valid and is appropriate if the sin is hidden and not obvious in such a way that it could be confused with acts of obedience. But Allaah has explained to His Messengers where they went wrong and enabled them to repent without delay.

(ii) – Sins contradict perfection and are a shortcoming. This is true if they are not accompanied by repentance, for repentance brings forgiveness of sin, and does not contradict perfection or bring blame upon a person. Rather in many cases a person may be better after repenting than he was before he fell into sin. It is well known that no Prophet committed sin but he hastened to repent and seek forgiveness. The Prophets did not persist in sin or delay repentance, for Allaah protected them from that, and after repenting they became more perfect than they were before.

3 – Unintentional mistakes with regard to some worldly matters

With regard to mistakes in some worldly matters, it is permissible for them to make such mistakes although their reason is sound and their insight is strong. This happened to several of the Prophets including our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This happened with regard to various spheres of life such as medicine, agriculture, etc.

Muslim narrated in his Saheeh (6127) that Raafi’ ibn Khadeej said: The Prophet of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to Madeenah and found them pollinating the palm trees. He said: “What are you doing?” They said: “We always do this.” He said: “Perhaps if you do not do it, that will be better.” So they did not do it, and the harvest failed. They told him about that and he said: “I am only human. If I tell you to do something with regard to your religion, then do it, but if I tell you to do something based on my own opinion, then I am only human.” Hence it is known that the Prophets are infallible and protected from error with regard to the Revelation, so we should beware of those who cast aspersions upon the Messenger’s conveying of the Message and his laws, and say that it is his own personal opinion. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) could never do such a thing. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
It is only a Revelation revealed”
[al-Najm 53:3-4]

The Standing Committee was asked: Do the Prophets and Messengers make mistakes?
They replied:
Yes, they make mistakes but Allaah does not let them persist in their mistakes, rather he points out their mistakes to them as a mercy to them and their nations, and He forgives them for their mistakes, and accepts their repentance by His Grace and Mercy, for Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful, as will be clear to anyone who studies the verses of the Qur’aan which speak of that.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 3/194

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Though I'm sure Barney can speak for himself, the way I understood the question there is a second issue beyond whether or not pornography and lust are haraam. There is question about is forgiveness available for it when "it's a repeatedly occuring event"?

I would think in considering that question the sin could be any haraam act, the issue has to do with someone who has given themselves over to it and has made it an habitual act. Though they continue to seek forgiveness, they also immediately afterward return to the sin, perhaps causing doubt about the genuineness of any repentance that may be involved.

My brother Fi_Sabililah has already mentioned a hadith in the matter and I will add another one.

Muslim narrates from Abu Hureira that Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them.

These ahadith and other than them indicate that forgiveness is achieved indeed when one does his/her best to avoid the sin and only falls into sin again although he/she is trying hard to improve himself/herself. However this does not mean that the individual may start commiting sins and thinking that all he has to do ask for forgiveness after and job donne. No. This should not be missunderstood. Just like Allah says:

"And those who having done something to be ashamed of or wronged their own souls earnestly bring Allah to mind and ask for forgiveness for their sins and who can forgive sins except Allah? And are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done.

For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord and gardens with rivers flowing underneath an eternal dwelling; how excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)!" (3:135-136)

Even after saying this the door of repentance will not be shut to anyone no matter what he/she has commited as long as this repentance is not on the verge of death and so on.

Allah says: "Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful" (39:53)

The individual should strive to improve himself as much as he can and this includes bothe the righteous and the sinners. Indeed if the sinner improves, much goodness is expacted for him/her. Allah says:

"Those who invoke not with Allah any other god nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause not commit fornication and any that does this (not only) meets punishment.

(But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him and he will dwell therein in ignominy

Unless he repents believes and works righteous deeds for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good and Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful

And whosoever repenteth and doeth good, he verily repenteth toward Allah with true repentance" (25:68-71)

Muslim and Tirmidhi narrate a hadith where it describes that in the day of judgement Allah would take to account someone and would present to him his minor sins only to which this man will admit while being afraid that his major sins would be presented soon. Instead Allah will say to him:

"I have forgiven you and have altered your sins into good deeds. He will answer: But my Lord! I have committed sins that I have not seen yet (meaning that I was not taken to task for)".

This matter is very important and very vast indeed and it would take a lot to describe this matter, but I think that this suffices to make the point we wanted to address.
 
Hi. I will post something I have ready and I hope that it clarifies the matter. However if more is needed I can elaborate on that God willing:

The Prophets’ task was to convey the message from Allaah even though they were human, hence the issue of infallibility may be examined from two angles:

1 – Infallibility in conveying the message

2 – Infallibility from human error

Firstly: With regard to the first issue, the Prophets were infallible in conveying the message from Allaah.

So with regard to conveying the religion of his Lord, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not make any mistakes at all, whether major or minor, rather he was infallible and under the constant protection of Allaah.


Secondly: With regard to the Prophets as people, they may make mistakes. This may be discussed as follows:

1 –They do not commit major sins

With regard to major sins, the Prophets do not commit major sins at all, and they are protected from such major sins both before their missions began or afterwards.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/319:
The view that the Prophets are infallible and protected against committing major sins, as opposed to minor sins, is the view of the majority of Muslim scholars and of all groups. It is also the view of the scholars of tafseer and hadeeth and fuqaha’. Indeed, nothing has been narrated from any of the salaf, imams, Sahaabah, Taabi’een and those who followed them except that which is in accordance with this view.


2 – Matters that have nothing to do with conveying the message and the revelation.
With regard to minor sins, these may be committed by them, or by some of them. Hence the majority of scholars are of the view that they are not infallible when it comes to minor sins. But if they committed such actions they were not left to persist therein, rather Allaah pointed that out to them and they hastened to repent therefrom.

3 – Unintentional mistakes with regard to some worldly matters

With regard to mistakes in some worldly matters, it is permissible for them to make such mistakes although their reason is sound and their insight is strong. Yes, they make mistakes but Allaah does not let them persist in their mistakes, rather he points out their mistakes to them as a mercy to them and their nations, and He forgives them for their mistakes, and accepts their repentance by His Grace and Mercy, for Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful, as will be clear to anyone who studies the verses of the Qur’aan which speak of that.

On what it the Fataawa based that the Prophets are infallible and protected from committing major sins? Is it an argument from silence that there is no record of any of the prophets having committed a major sin, or is there something specifically in the Qur'an and Hadith which leads to this interpretation?
 
On what it the Fataawa based that the Prophets are infallible and protected from committing major sins? Is it an argument from silence that there is no record of any of the prophets having committed a major sin, or is there something specifically in the Qur'an and Hadith which leads to this interpretation?

This understanding comes from the Qur'an, hadith and concensus of muslims. Indeed we would dissagre on this point if we were to compare our books as in the bible states they prophets did commit major sins while the Qur'an denies such. This is another point in which muslims and christians differ.
 
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We also know that the Prophets were the best examples for mankind, yet if these prophets did major sins - then how can we really say that they are an example for us? Rather it would be an excuse for the evildoers to say that they did this evil, so we can since we're not as pious as them.

We seek refuge in Allaah from evil and hypocrisy. ameen.
 

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