Conversion by the Sword and other misconceptions.

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I Diddnt do it! I SWEAR!, I was Fishing!
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no, you weren't fishing. I saw you there. You were having an ice cream :p
you are also going to jail with us.
 
evange, I'm sorry, but what you posted is very silly, we are not living in dreams.

What I believe is that Jesus wasn't nailed to the cross by just the Jews or the Romans but by me and you and Woodrow and glo and snakelegs and vbp and Ansar. The only difference is some accept the gift and others leave it on the table.
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read again what u wrote.
 
He's talking about the christian beleif that we have all sinned, and our sin nailed Jesus on the cross, but he went willingly as a gift to us to redeem that sin and give us the gift of eternal life.

Probably.
 
He's talking about the christian beleif that we have all sinned, and our sin nailed Jesus on the cross, but he went willingly as a gift to us to redeem that sin and give us the gift of eternal life.
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I understand what christians believe, I don't have a problem with that, but saying now, me Wodroow, etc.... are in some way guilty along with Romands and jews for "killing" Jesus, is just silly.
 
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evange, I'm sorry, but what you posted is very silly, we are not living in dreams.

read again what u wrote.
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I read it again and I still don't think it's silly. Tell you what, you read it again and then I'll read it again and maybe one of us will start rubbing off on the other.
 
I read it again and I still don't think it's silly. Tell you what, you read it again and then I'll read it again and maybe one of us will start rubbing off on the other.
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don't worry mate :) just forget about it.
 
It's metaphorical yeah?
I might have not gone up the hill with my galvanised 3" roundhead's and my Clawhammer, but retroactively jesus after creating sinful man, contrived to get himself killed, because only shedding his blood could save me, now, from his wrath.

.......Oh , My Head Hurts.

y'know, if It made any sense to me I'd say "thanks jesus". i mean crucifixtion is a terrible torment. as bad as stoning to death.

I just wonder if he actually did put himself up there. And why. And i think he was a man not a man-god....
And lots of other stuff.
 
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Aw, c'mon just a couple more times?
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 Volume 8, Book 76, Number 421:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet said, "There are two blessings which many people lose: (They are) Health and free time for doing good."


also going to get a quick nap. c ya later.



 
barney said:
It's metaphorical yeah?
I might have not gone up the hill with my galvanised 3" roundhead's and my Clawhammer, but retroactively jesus after creating sinful man, contrived to get himself killed, because only shedding his blood could save me, now, from his wrath.

.......Oh , My Head Hurts.
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Dang it, I was aiming for your heart.
 
It's metaphorical yeah?
I might have not gone up the hill with my galvanised 3" roundhead's and my Clawhammer, but retroactively jesus after creating sinful man, contrived to get himself killed, because only shedding his blood could save me, now, from his wrath.
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whatever way u use, even if we assume Jesus died on corss, I wouldn't be held guilty for his death. but it seems you like to make people guilty all the time, Adam's sin, Jesus's death /.......
 
barney said:
It's metaphorical yeah?
I might have not gone up the hill with my galvanised 3" roundhead's and my Clawhammer, but retroactively jesus after creating sinful man, contrived to get himself killed, because only shedding his blood could save me, now, from his wrath.

.......Oh , My Head Hurts.

y'know, if It made any sense to me I'd say "thanks jesus". i mean crucifixtion is a terrible torment. as bad as stoning to death.

I just wonder if he actually did put himself up there. And why. And i think he was a man not a man-god....
And lots of other stuff.
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Oh, He didn't create sinful man that was our choice.
 
vpb said:
whatever way u use, even if we assume Jesus died on corss, I wouldn't be held guilty for his death. but it seems you like to make people guilty all the time, Adam's sin, Jesus's death /.......
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My guilt was nailed to the cross.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
 
Topic: Sword converting.

The west is pretty much falling over itself to apologise for Imperialism of Britain , France, Holland. The US is very very sorry for massacering the Native "indians".

Any Muslims here sorry about conquoring a billion square miles of territory?
 
I know the topic is "Conversion by the Sword and other misconceptions." and that by the nature of the title it is legitimate to say the thread covers all Misconceptions.

However, please refrain from making the discussions frivolous.
 
Those who have a good understanding of history know that colonialism and conversion went hand in hand, particularly during the conquest of the New World. However, while those of us today have a hard time understanding this point, conversion to Christianity also saved many "Indians" from being killed outright. Many priests knew this very well. I'm not saying all conversions were done out of humanitarian kindness, but if one reads some of the books and letters written by Catholic priests during the conquest of South America, they continually point out that converting the "Indians" is the only way to stop the Spanish conquistadors from killing and enslaving the natives wholesale. While the Catholic Church wasn't innocent in the matter, they were at least more concerned with the lives of the native peoples than finding gold and riches.
 
barney said:
Any Muslims here sorry about conquoring a billion square miles of territory?
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We don't need to be, the majority of the places in the world where Islaam settled - the people within them countries still practise Islaam today.
 
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