Kuwait will not Allow US troops to use bases in kuwait to attack Iran

[NobleMuslimUK]

and they may be the ones that Allah (pbuh) decides to "destroy"

A correction here your not meant to say Allah pbuh=peace be upon him, Its Allah's peace that we seek, since there no one greater than Allah than its contradictory to say Allah pbuh.

 

[Chiteng]

I dont think it matters.

You have two options:

A world where Iran has Nukes

A world where Iran does NOT have Nukes

You cannot have both. Somewhere at sometime, someone will have to make
a decision.

One thing is certain, NOTHING is certain in war.

 

[MTAFFI]

A correction here your not meant to say Allah pbuh=peace be upon him, Its Allah's peace that we seek, since there no one greater than Allah than its contradictory to say Allah pbuh.

corrected, sorry about that

 

[MTAFFI]

maybe your a future muslim? +o(

why does that make you sick? because our views in regards to politics and world affairs differ?? Who really cares, it makes me sick that I was detered from reading the quran once by someone like yourself

 

[Sami Zaatari]

why does that make you sick? because our views in regards to politics and world affairs differ?? Who really cares, it makes me sick that I was detered from reading the quran once by someone like yourself

me and u dont just disagree on politics, nop.

 

[Trumble]

He doesn't mean to genocide them like the west doest, but to send them back they came from (europe).

Most of those people are now dead, the current generation were born there. They will not be "sent back" by anybody. It's been tried before, remember? All talk of same achieves is a continuation of current hostile Israeli policy when the only thing that will actually help the Palestinians (as opposed to their armchair supporters) is a peaceful, viable two-state solution.

What does the conflict have to do with Iran, anyway? The answer is nothing whatsoever; it's between Israelis and Arabs. If the Americans should keep their nose out of other peoples business so should Iran. It's just cheap popularist rhetoric for the benefit of the gullible.

 

[Sinbad]

I dont think it matters.

You have two options:

A world where Iran has Nukes

A world where Iran does NOT have Nukes

You cannot have both. Somewhere at sometime, someone will have to make
a decision.

One thing is certain, NOTHING is certain in war.

Stop watching FOX and listen to the cold heart truth a little.

North Korea are much much more hostile than Iran, they sent a missile to Japan as a threat for not stopping to send aid.
The korean border is always tense, little battles pop up here and there.

When did Iran send missiles when it was not in war? How is the iraq/afghanistan borders with Iran?

North Korea has nukes! Have the world ended?

Libya have nukes, Pakistan have nukes, India has nukes, it is said saudi arabia have 6 from america. China have nukes, Russia have nukes.

And of course the most aggressive ones of all America, France, England, Israel.
America even used it twice.

What will Iran having nukes going to change anything? I you want to prevent a disaster, prevent the building of the arab bomb. Those nations, yemen, Saudi Arabia, will soon collapse when the oil time is over, and they will be ******stan, 9/11 will be the national day.

So stop watching Fox News and realize that we are living in the atomic age.

Dont complain about Iran when there are a dussin more violent states that has and is getting it.

 

[Chiteng]

Stop watching FOX and listen to the cold heart truth a little.

North Korea are much much more hostile than Iran, they sent a missile to Japan as a threat for not stopping to send aid.
The korean border is always tense, little battles pop up here and there.

When did Iran send missiles when it was not in war? How is the iraq/afghanistan borders with Iran?

North Korea has nukes! Have the world ended?

Libya have nukes, Pakistan have nukes, India has nukes, it is said saudi arabia have 6 from america. China have nukes, Russia have nukes.

And of course the most aggressive ones of all America, France, England, Israel.
America even used it twice.

What will Iran having nukes going to change anything? I you want to prevent a disaster, prevent the building of the arab bomb. Those nations, yemen, Saudi Arabia, will soon collapse when the oil time is over, and they will be ******stan, 9/11 will be the national day.

So stop watching Fox News and realize that we are living in the atomic age.

Dont complain about Iran when there are a dussin more violent states that has and is getting it.

First allow me to be perfectly clear, I am an old man and I understand all
too well what is at stake.

"if you want peace prepare for war" - Vegetius
“The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must”. -Thucydides

I dont wish to see my culture be on the end of that truism.

I do watch FoxNews, but only for amusement.
I dont really like the Prez much.
When you try to patronize someone, it is much better if you spell the words correctly.

So we are back to assumptions:
I dont agree that the House of Saud has nuclear weapons
Nor Libya
Nor North Korea

The options are:

A world where Iran has nuclear weapons
or
A world where Iran does NOT have nuclear weapons

Because that is what they want. And they are willing to see their entire
country destroyed, rather than not obtain those weapons.

I think that attitude speaks a great deal about the country of Iran.

 

[guyabano]

I see, so if in Israel lived Jews only , it would be ok to nuke them right?

Salam.

I guess you can call that a 'Selective Bomb'. I would not be surprised if Iran would have such a 'Kuffar'-Bomb since they can take down satellites and do paintjobs on Vessels.

PS: I love this muscle flexing in this thread. Keep it up guys, I get another box of Popcorn !

 

[islamirama]

I guess you can call that a 'Selective Bomb'. I would not be surprised if Iran would have such a 'Kuffar'-Bomb since they can take down satellites and do paintjobs on Vessels.

PS: I love this muscle flexing in this thread. Keep it up guys, I get another box of Popcorn !

Interesting that you mention "selective bomb", a few years back i read a similiar article. It stated that the Israeli were testing to make an arab bomb that would wipe out only arabs. They were playing with gene testing and what not. Making a human only or one species only bomb is hard enough and here they are attempting at pinpoint a race out. :rollseyes

 

[MTAFFI]

me and u dont just disagree on politics, nop.

interesting how you think you know me so intimately, but in any case it doesnt really matter does it

 

[Cognescenti]

Interesting that you mention "selective bomb", a few years back i read a similiar article. It stated that the Israeli were testing to make an arab bomb that would wipe out only arabs. They were playing with gene testing and what not. Making a human only or one species only bomb is hard enough and here they are attempting at pinpoint a race out. :rollseyes

Oh please. That is completely preposterous. Have you considered that because it is so preposterous, it might not have any truth to it? You, in my humble opinion should you be so gracious as to accept it, need to reduce the selectivity of your BS filter a bit...

 

[Cognescenti]

Back to the thread.

The Kuwaitis are.....ready for it......afraid of the Iranians. Kuwait City is only about 40 mi away from the Iranian frontier. The Iranians have between perhaps 450 and 600 Scud B and Scud C missiles with ranges of over 200 miles. The are a very old technology and have a CEP-50 of 850 meters (Circular Error Probable...50% will land within a radius of 850 m of the target). That is really pretty lousy so they are only really useful when fired at very large targets (like a city). For comaprison, the US Trident missile warhead fired from a submarine 6000 miles away has a CEP of 90 m (with a nucelar warhead) As the Iranians would be unlikely to do much damage to a US base with these (Scuds) unless they fired dozens...they would most likely do exactly what they did in the Iran/Iraq war..fire them at Arab cities (in Dubai, Oman, Qatr, Kuwait).

Now..add to this the fact that, in my opinion, the Kuwaitis are an effete and coddled lot who couldn't change the spark plugs on their BMW 7 series with the help of color-coded tools and an animated video with a talking camel. Their wealth came not from their own effort but because foreign engineers found black gold under all the camel dung. Most of the hard work of the country is done by imported labor from the PI or Palestine or Bangladesh etc, etc. They were completely unprepared to deal with SH

Why should we expect anything different from them?

 

[beespreeteam]

Will definitely be interesting.

 

[islamirama]

Oh please. That is completely preposterous. Have you considered that because it is so preposterous, it might not have any truth to it? You, in my humble opinion should you be so gracious as to accept it, need to reduce the selectivity of your BS filter a bit...

I didn't say i believe it, i said i read it a while back. Even if it is true, it is very unlikely as we are not that advance in our technology and chemistry nor will we get there in the next 100yrs.


I think kuwait is wise to not offer US any base, seeing how they will face total annhilation being so close to Iran.

 

[Gangster No.1]

If the americans do decide to sum how, and i think they will sum how want to attack iran, as they do what they want, but any how if America and there alies DO attack iran, then bye, bye america, because they will definatley be bombared, iran will fight back, like no one has seen, say they do have WMD, nuclear etc, then i would be happy 2 c them attack the kafr. personally speaking here, they deserve it, and the rest of the muslims would definatley start to join forces.

The signs of day of judgment are everywhere, and still coming more and more, it wud be NO SUPRISE if the USA do attack.

Just be ready to be defeated later on, by the MUSLIMS across the globe, inshlah.

 

[islamirama]

If the americans do decide to sum how, and i think they will sum how want to attack iran, as they do what they want, but any how if America and there alies DO attack iran, then bye, bye america, because they will definatley be bombared, iran will fight back, like no one has seen, say they do have WMD, nuclear etc, then i would be happy 2 c them attack the kafr. personally speaking here, they deserve it, and the rest of the muslims would definatley start to join forces.

The signs of day of judgment are everywhere, and still coming more and more, it wud be NO SUPRISE if the USA do attack.

Just be ready to be defeated later on, by the MUSLIMS across the globe, inshlah.

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran does have nukes stored somewhere and if not then its still easy to buy some from the black market, lots of them are available from the fall of Russa. And US is not the only one with agents inside Iran, working to cause turmoil from inside. Iran also said it has agents in US waiting for a signal to start their attacks. Is it a bluff? who knows....

 

[Cognescenti]

I didn't say i believe it, i said i read it a while back. Even if it is true, it is very unlikely as we are not that advance in our technology and chemistry nor will we get there in the next 100yrs.

I agree. I would go further. I would say it is impossible. The genetic differences at the molecular level between groups of human beings are astonishingly small. For the most important proteins, even chimpanzees have a 99% sequence homology with man. VX nerve gas is chemically very similar to insect poison. Try drinking a bunch of DDT and see what happens. If we can't design a selective poison for boll weavels I don't think the hyper-intelligent, throbbing brained, mad scientists of the Mossad can design an anti-Arab poison either.

I think kuwait is wise to not offer US any base, seeing how they will face total annhilation being so close to Iran.

In the short run that may be an effective strategy. In the long run, what is to stop the Iranians from coming over and taking their nice, new 7-series BMW's away? Cowardice will lead to servility in time. If they abrogate their agreement with the US, do you think the Marines will come help them next time?

BTW...500 Scud missiles could never "anhilate" an entire country. They might kill a thousand Kuwaitis and there would be a Heck of a cleanup job..but not anhiliation. On the other hand, one nuke could ruin their whole day.

Here is what happened to their air-conditioned rides last time..

 

[islamirama]

In the short run that may be an effective strategy. In the long run, what is to stop the Iranians from coming over and taking their nice, new 7-series BMW's away? Cowardice will lead to servility in time. If they abrogate their agreement with the US, do you think the Marines will come help them next time?

BTW...500 Scud missiles could never "anhilate" an entire country. They might kill a thousand Kuwaitis and there would be a Heck of a cleanup job..but not anhiliation. On the other hand, one nuke could ruin their whole day.

Here is what happened to their air-conditioned rides last time..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...d_vehicles_line_Highway_80_on_18_Apr_1991.jpg

Kuwait was bombed for by Iraq last time for it's extremely low oil prices on purpose. I don't think Iran and kuwait have had a chance to go head to head. But kuwait is but one city and scud missles or not Iran has enough power to make kuwait a desert sand and kuwaities know this which is why they don't want US on their soil, they don't want to get involved seeing what is happending in Iraq and afghan right now. They are smart for once to think of their own country and citizens and their safety.

 

[Sinbad]

Back to the thread.

The Kuwaitis are.....ready for it......afraid of the Iranians. Kuwait City is only about 40 mi away from the Iranian frontier. The Iranians have between perhaps 450 and 600 Scud B and Scud C missiles with ranges of over 200 miles. The are a very old technology and have a CEP-50 of 850 meters (Circular Error Probable...50% will land within a radius of 850 m of the target). That is really pretty lousy so they are only really useful when fired at very large targets (like a city). For comaprison, the US Trident missile warhead fired from a submarine 6000 miles away has a CEP of 90 m (with a nucelar warhead) As the Iranians would be unlikely to do much damage to a US base with these (Scuds) unless they fired dozens...they would most likely do exactly what they did in the Iran/Iraq war..fire them at Arab cities (in Dubai, Oman, Qatr, Kuwait).

Now..add to this the fact that, in my opinion, the Kuwaitis are an effete and coddled lot who couldn't change the spark plugs on their BMW 7 series with the help of color-coded tools and an animated video with a talking camel. Their wealth came not from their own effort but because foreign engineers found black gold under all the camel dung. Most of the hard work of the country is done by imported labor from the PI or Palestine or Bangladesh etc, etc. They were completely unprepared to deal with SH

Why should we expect anything different from them?

Why are you talking about ld missiles? Iran makes their own, very good missiles to, destroyed many israeli tanks, and shot down a high tech israeli jet in lebanon.

Iran also got the worlds best anti air system, as i have shown already. And the russians sold the best torpedos in the world to Iran.

Why would they go for old American stuff?