Is the ONE GOD of Islam the same as the GOD of the Bible?

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Allah also explains to us clearly that because Jews and Christians both preach that we must have faith in One God, there is no need to convert them to Islam.
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vpb said:
hah, have u asked chrisitans what is the "one god" they believe in??
Allah told us in the Qur'an that if Christians and Jews do good deeds, believe in one God (the proper way as muslims do), and believe in the day of judgment .... they go to heaven.
but the "One God" that chrisitians believe is not the same as the One God we believe in.
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So this thread would deal with that very issue. Is the ONE GOD of Islam ("Allah") the same as the ONE GOD of Christianity and Judaism, the GOD of the Bible? Not just debates over the Trinity, but a comparison of other aspects and attributes of the ONE GOD.
 
Yes... they are referring to the same God. That doesn't mean that we agree on everything about that God... but nonetheless we are all worshipping the same God... (except for the trinity/Jesus/holy spirit part obviously...)
 
How can the christians and jews be compared to muslims.

The christians and jews etc, believe totally diffrent concepts of god.

A muslim is one who testify's 'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, & MUHAMMAD IS THE FINAL MESSENGER''.

Christians for example pray diffrent, they belive jesus is son of god, astagfural, how can a person be entered in heaven, when they have commited TOTAL wrong, asscoiating partners with allah.

STOP, ryt there, as it says in hadith/quran. about your religion is yours and mine is mine, << not a quote!

but that is the priniciple of our LIFE, 2 believe in Allah & the rasool (p.b.u.h), so if i kufr is 2 disbelive this, then how can they come even kilometers away 2 the gates of paradise, utterly not, instead they will be sitting, sipping, eating hell!

Although muslims commit sin/deeds
we belive in Allah and the messenger (p.b.u.h).

however YOU dont, dont bother 2 compare yourself when you belive in your FALSE GOD.

THE SHAHADAH, IS THE ROOT 2 EVRYTHING, DENYING IT, YOU ARE A KUFR!


p.s

if i said any thing wrong may allah forgive me, if i said any thing good, may allah reawrd me and the Ummah, inshlah.

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I need a christian to confirm this. Long time I read the bible and not remember the exact scriptures or place et c.

Well according to the bible satan is a master of deception, and can even take the form of an angel. right?

And Jesus warned us al over the New Testament, "I am the last one", "dont follow someone after me".

All I remember is Matthew 24:5

"Many will come using my name. They will say, 'I am the Messiah,' and they will deceive many people.(GOD'S WORD®) "

Just wanted to add my 2 cents,
 
Gangster No.1 said:
How can the christians and jews be compared to muslims.

The christians and jews etc, believe totally diffrent concepts of god.

A muslim is one who testify's 'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, & MUHAMMAD IS THE FINAL MESSENGER''.

Christians for example pray diffrent, they belive jesus is son of god, astagfural, how can a person be entered in heaven, when they have commited TOTAL wrong, asscoiating partners with allah.

STOP, ryt there, as it says in hadith/quran. about your religion is yours and mine is mine, << not a quote!

but that is the priniciple of our LIFE, 2 believe in Allah & the rasool (p.b.u.h), so if i kufr is 2 disbelive this, then how can they come even kilometers away 2 the gates of paradise, utterly not, instead they will be sitting, sipping, eating hell!

Although muslims commit sin/deeds
we belive in Allah and the messenger (p.b.u.h).

however YOU dont, dont bother 2 compare yourself when you belive in your FALSE GOD.
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You have touched on a point that is perhaps at the heart of this thread. While some have said, Christians and Muslims believe in the same God, but simply understand Him differently, you have come out and said matter-of-factly that non-Muslims actually worship a FALSE GOD. Now, that does not offend me, nor surprise me, because I'm wondering whether any Christians feel that the God of Islam, Allah, is a false god? Why? Or why not?
 
Sinbad said:
I need a christian to confirm this. Long time I read the bible and not remember the exact scriptures or place et c.

Well according to the bible satan is a master of deception, and can even take the form of an angel. right?

And Jesus warned us all over the New Testament, "I am the last one", "dont follow someone after me".

All I remember is Matthew 24:5

"Many will come using my name. They will say, 'I am the Messiah,' and they will deceive many people.(GOD'S WORD®) "

Just wanted to add my 2 cents,
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Jesus did warn of false christs and false prophets that would come and deceive many (Matt. 7:15-20; 24:4-5, 11, 24). Likewise, several other writers of NT books also warned of the same, such as Peter (2 Peter 2:1-3) and John (1 John 4:1-3). In his farewell to the elders at Ephesus, Paul warned that "after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves" (Acts 20:29-30).

Jesus Himself did not specifically say He was "the last one" or "don't follow someone after me," but He did say, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father except through Me" (John 14:6). And certainly the false prophets/teachers were not to be followed, for as Peter warned, they would bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction" (2 Pet. 2:1). The key is that no later prophet or teacher was to be listened to if he denied the Gospel that Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose again (Gal. 1:6-9; 1 Cor. 15:1-3), because to do so would be to "deny the Lord that bought them" (with His blood).

Actually being a prophet or having the gift of prophecy was simply one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. There were many prophets who exercised that gift, but as far as we know, they were not told to reduce their prophecies to writing. They simply gave a word from the Lord to edify the believers as they gathered in His name. And by the way, what they said was judged (1 Cor. 14:29-31). None of them was put on any pedestal and revered as a special messenger from God. They were simply using their Spirit-given gift to build up the believers. But they were accountable to the believers and to the Lord, that nothing spoken in the name of the Lord would be in error or contrary to previous instruction given by the Lord. God does not say one thing, like, I'm going to Jerusalem and will be killed and on the third day rise from the dead, and then later contradict Himself and say it never happened.
 
The new testament has so many contradictions.. watch this video..
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdxd5_MwGeg&NR=1[/media]
 
Jesus Himself did not specifically say He was "the last one"
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I think these parables makes it clear that God sent His Son as the final messenger. In addition, Mat 11:11 indicates that perhaps John the Baptist was the final earthly prophet alluded to in these parables prior to the coming of the Messiah.

Mat 21:33 "Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country.
34 "Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit.
35 "And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.
36 "Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them.
37 "Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
38 "But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.'
39 "So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.
40 "Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?"
41 They said to Him, "He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons."

Mk 12:6 "Therefore still having one son, his beloved, he also sent him to them last, saying, 'They will respect my son.'

Mat 11:11 "Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
 
I think these parables makes it clear that God sent His Son
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I cant seem to understand that. Why would God send himself :X
I know its not part of it. Dont bother explaining else itll go off topic. Sorry lol.
 
Yes so God did say that Jesus would be the last! And God also warns us that the devil can pretend to be an angel, like lets say Gabriel?

Jazzy said:
I cant seem to understand that. Why would God send himself :X
I know its not part of it. Dont bother explaining else itll go off topic. Sorry lol.
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I have to agree that is confucing.
 
dougmusr said:
I think these parables makes it clear that God sent His Son as the final messenger. In addition, Mat 11:11 indicates that perhaps John the Baptist was the final earthly prophet alluded to in these parables prior to the coming of the Messiah.

Mat 21:33 "Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country.
34 "Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit.
35 "And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.
36 "Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them.
37 "Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
38 "But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, 'This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.'
39 "So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.
40 "Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?"
41 They said to Him, "He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons."

Mk 12:6 "Therefore still having one son, his beloved, he also sent him to them last, saying, 'They will respect my son.'

Mat 11:11 "Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
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Good points! You're very right!
 
We don't believe in the same "one God", bc u see the One God as FSH merged into one God, where we see God as one in every way.

as bro gangsa said we have different concepts of God.
 
We worship the same God, but we differ on how we understand God.
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no , we don't, bc you assume Jesus is god, and to us jesus a.s is only a prophet. how then could we worship the same God?
 
vpb said:
no , we don't, bc you assume Jesus is god, and to us jesus a.s is only a prophet. how then could we worship the same God?
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they are all diffrent, according to the jewish religion the messiah (jesus) will make world peace when he arrives et c.

That didnt hapen so Judaism and christianity are like up and down. Islam is also extremly diffent.

And besides the old testament dosent seem monotheistic.

When Moses challenges the egyptian Priests. They turn their staffs into serpents to show how powerfull their gods are. Then moses turns hes staff into a serpent and it eats the other 2 serpents. This is to show that the jewish God is stronger.

and then we have the old hebrew elohim, thats still elohim in the old KJV bible, and the oldest hebrew texts.

Elohim is plural for "the divine ones".
 
Sinbad said:
they are all diffrent, according to the jewish religion the messiah (jesus) will make world peace when he arrives et c.
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It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus. The purpose is not to disparage other religions, but rather to clarify the Jewish position. The more data that's available, the better-informed choices people can make about their spiritual path.

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.

2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.

3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.

4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
 
This is going amazingly wierd.

Do all three worship the same God, I think they try to in a broad sense, they all claim to worship the one who created them. Do they add worship of others, thats another topic. Do they depict or have the right understanding of God thats again something else.
 
Do all three worship the same God, I think they try to in a broad sense, they all claim to worship the one who created them. Do they add worship of others, thats another topic. Do they depict or have the right understanding of God thats again something else.
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yes, that's why have three religions.
and Allah swt in the Qur'an all the time refers to people that they are taking other things/people as God besides Allah. so we are not really worshipping the same God, otherwise we would all be muslims together.
 

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