Author Rushdie: Muslim Veils 'Suck'

[Keltoi]

I think it would be funny if the Pope or maybe the Dali Lhama issued some 'fatwas' calling for the 'punishing' of Islamofascists..

Why would that be funny?

 

[Keltoi]

I think it would be a nice change of pace.

You do realize that the Pope has enough influence to call for violence even today? Hypothetically, if the Pope were to give an address in which he ordered all good Catholics to kill...yellow tomcats(for example), Europe and the U.S. would be fairly free of yellow tomcats right? Thanks goodness the Catholic church no longer endorses violence.

 

[queefer]

You do realize that the Pope has enough influence to call for violence even today? ...

I don't think that's true. Sure, you may have a few nuts, (abortion clinic killers ) but I don't see anything near the fervor and numbers as the Islamofascist.

 

[Zman]

I don't think that's true. Sure, you may have a few nuts, (abortion clinic killers ) but I don't see anything near the fervor and numbers as the Islamofascist.

The ferver and numbers of ChristoFascists & JudeoFascists are the same or larger than those of the fringe Muslim groups.

Their inhumane & barbaric weapons are by far more deadly & destructive...

 

[queefer]

The ferver and numbers of ChristoFascists & JudeoFascists are the same or larger than those of the fringe Muslim groups.

Their inhumane & barbaric weapons are by far more deadly & destructive...

I don't know, man. I've never seen thousands of Christians jumping up and down in the streets chanting 'Death to Iran' or anything like it. When was the last time you saw thousands of Christians burning Ahmadinejad in effigy ?(although that would be pretty funny. ) And you can't blame Christians/West for being good engineers.

 

[Zman]

And you can't blame Christians/West for being good engineers.

I'm glad you admitted to many bloodletting, devastation and war crimes that were perpetrated by the West & Christendom.

We in the West willl be answering for them, for a long time. Thanks to people like you and your ilk.

Just don't whine when the enemies our governments create, become "good engineers," also...

 

[Malaikah]

I don't know, man. I've never seen thousands of Christians jumping up and down in the streets chanting 'Death to Iran' or anything like it. When was the last time you saw thousands of Christians burning Ahmadinejad in effigy ?(although that would be pretty funny. ) And you can't blame Christians/West for being good engineers.

What has Iran done to them for them to need to react that way?

Maybe it will happen if Iran goes on an country invading rampage like the US did, you might start to see it. ffended:

 

[queefer]

...Maybe it will happen if Iran goes on an country invading rampage like the US did, you might start to see it. ffended:

I highly doubt it. It seems we in the West have better things to do with our time than whipping ourselves into a frenzy, chanting stupid slogans.

 

[Skywalker]

2 quick comments:

I've never seen thousands of Christians jumping up and down in the streets chanting 'Death to Iran' or anything like it.

You mean similar to thousands of Muslims jumping up and down chanting 'death to Israel'? In that case it would be better to label them 'Palestinians' than 'Muslims' because this is not a religious protest, but a political one. They got forced out of their homes and they want them back. On the other hand, Iran has never done anything to have anyone want to destroy it.

We protect the man because it is necessary to protect freedom of speech.

Why?

I mean let's just think about this for a minute. What exactly are you protecting? An ideal? Based on what? If it's human experience that freedom of speech is better for humanity, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Freedom of speech has done a lot more bad in the last decade than good. Sure I think it's important to criticize negative elements of our societies, but there's a limit to that...when you start publically criticizing positive elemets or degrading morals or inciting hatred...that's not the kind of freedom of speech that I would ever support. This to me is harassment, and it just makes the world a lousy place to live.

 

[wilberhum]

I mean let's just think about this for a minute. What exactly are you protecting? An ideal? Based on what? If it's human experience that freedom of speech is better for humanity, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Freedom of speech has done a lot more bad in the last decade than good. Sure I think it's important to criticize negative elements of our societies, but there's a limit to that...when you start publically criticizing positive elemets or degrading morals or inciting hatred...that's not the kind of freedom of speech that I would never support. This to me is harassment, and it just makes the world a lousy place to live.

You have limited your world to black and white. Too bad you don’t see the 98 shapes of gray.

Freedom of speech or any other freedom will cause problems. I can’t think of anything that does not cause some problem. Even too much of a good thing is not a good thing.

Maybe you would like to live in a country where there is no or extremely restricted freedoms, but not me.

 

[Skywalker]

You have limited your world to black and white. Too bad you don’t see the 98 shapes of gray.

Freedom of speech or any other freedom will cause problems. I can’t think of anything that does not cause some problem. Even too much of a good thing is not a good thing.

Maybe you would like to live in a country where there is no or extremely restricted freedoms, but not me.

Actually on most computer screens, there are actually 254 shades of gray, and in case you haven't noticed, I wasn't talking black and white. When I mentioned several exceptions to which complete freedom of speech seems to be a disadvantage, but at the same time I never said that our speech should be so restricted as to not allow anyone to utter a word.

As for choosing to live in a country where freedoms are "extremely restricted", it depends on your definition of extremely restricted. For example, if I lived in a country where the government did not allow me to interact with anothe human being, to only eat once a day, to only sleep for 3 hours each night...then no, I would not at all like to live in such a place. I would however like to live in a place where freedoms are restricted to a level that allows people to live in as much harmony as humanly possible while at the same time having enough freedom to not feel forcefully constrained. Complete freedom of speech (ie. allowing negative elements of society to degrade and humiliate the positive parts) is not my idea of a harmonious society, but with a few more ground rules it could be.

 

[Muezzin]

Er... yeah, this is another really old thread drudged up for no apparent reason (considering that there already exist at least two other Rushdie threads, probably a third for the recent honours controversy). Since this thread is much older than 3 days, and since all threads in this section may be closed after 3 days, and since the posts in this thread are no longer really adding anything to a discussion but are rather stirring the pot, I'm locking this.