HSBC closes down Muslim Charities Account

[جوري]

Is it just me or are Muslims receiving more and more discrimination as of late?

this is prophetic.. they'll come after us under many flags seventy or so as the hadith states!
I think instead of feeling bad and discriminated against, we should be more pro-active.. just take your business to halal institutions! Fight back-- I just did!

 

[islamirama]

Trust me I did! I need to do the same with chase too, whether or not they follow in HSBC's lead, or are a subsidary of them since somehow they are all connected, I despise their business and how they clear my checks after 11 days, every month I have no access to my money until they decide to clear it, on whimsy I am supposing, I am not sure why it takes 1/3 of a month to clear a check... only then will I feel truly freed of this.. Do you know of any Islamic international banks though in the U.S?

I don't know of any intl banks personally, but here's a few i found online. The problem with that is, what kind of service will you get and how easy will it be to reach customer service? you can look more into it and see what you find.

Gulf - (also in london) http://www.gibonline.com/
US - http://www.wfib.com/
singpore - http://www.ipb.citibank.com.sg/
Korea - http://www.pibank.com/index.htm

 

[Intisar]

this is prophetic.. they'll come after us under many flags seventy or so as the hadith states!
I think instead of feeling bad and discriminated against, we should be more pro-active.. just take your business to halal institutions! Fight back-- I just did!

Yes, that's true we should do that sis but I just can't help but feel out of place in the West. My identity is Islam, and my identity is being put on trial. I don't care what the media tries to say, but whenever these 'terrorists' and 'suspicious actions' occur, the person carrying them out is not put on trial but our whole religion is!

 

[Ourra-Tul-'Ain]

:sunny:

this is prophetic.. they'll come after us under many flags seventy or so as the hadith states!
I think instead of feeling bad and discriminated against, we should be more pro-active.. just take your business to halal institutions! Fight back-- I just did!

^^^sooooo true^^^
sallam my sisters and brothers!:sunny:

i say lets be patient inshallah, in the end we will be the true winners.:happy:

oh n der is an islamic bank i saw in southall a few days ago, inshallah i'll try n find info about it then i'll post it inshallah.
sallam

 

[S@K!N@H]

Some.

HSBC is a world wide bank. They have many offices in the Middle East.
Practical application of facts works better than some anti-Islamic Conspiracy Theory.

so wat if they have a few offices in the middle east, does that mean they have the interests of the people at heart? a is a bank, take the worldbank, wat good have they done for the world? apart from debt? with no real chances of clearing for most of africa. please dont talk about facts without looking at how the world is due the banks and their making money of the needy.

 

[جوري]

I don't know of any intl banks personally, but here's a few i found online. The problem with that is, what kind of service will you get and how easy will it be to reach customer service? you can look more into it and see what you find.

http://www.gibonline.com/
http://www.wfib.com/
http://www.ipb.citibank.com.sg/
http://www.pibank.com/index.htm

Shokran akhi.. I know the only thing that would concern me is ATM withdrawl, but I'll look to see the ease of that.. I am sure one can write a check from any bank and it would be accepted, I am also hopeful that they all offer credit cards.. The only other banks I deal with now is AMEX and chase.. surprisingly AMEX has always had a stellar service especially for traveling... recently I closed an MBNA as well, frankly Chase MBNA and HSBC were the worst I have encountered, I think this article just pushed me over the edge..

 

[جوري]

Yes, that's true we should do that sis but I just can't help but feel out of place in the West. My identity is Islam, and my identity is being put on trial. I don't care what the media tries to say, but whenever these 'terrorists' and 'suspicious actions' occur, the person carrying them out is not put on trial but our whole religion is!

You hold on then!.. YOU HOLD ON STEADFAST TO ALLAH AND YOUR PRINCIPLES..

 

[islamirama]

Shokran akhi.. I know the only thing that would concern me is ATM withdrawl, but I'll look to see the ease of that.. I am sure one can write a check from any bank and it would be accepted, I am also hopeful that they all offer credit cards.. The only other banks I deal with now is AMEX and chase.. surprisingly AMEX has always had a stellar service especially for traveling... recently I closed an MBNA as well, frankly Chase MBNA and HSBC were the worst I have encountered, I think this article just pushed me over the edge..



Gulf - (also in london) http://www.gibonline.com/
US - http://www.wfib.com/
singpore - http://www.ipb.citibank.com.sg/
Korea - http://www.pibank.com/index.htm

I'm iffy about banks in US also, its not hard for them to freeze your account if they think you're a "suspect", post 9-11 the shut down many big islamic charities and stole millions of dollar by freezing their accounts and closing them down. Personally, i never use atm nor hardly write checks. I do everything online, faster and easier that way. I just use like visa card or something and then pay it in full each month electronically from the bank. As for money, just write a check to yourself when you need money.

 

[wilberhum]

does that mean they have the interests of the people at heart?

That means they have there interests at heart. It is called Capitalism.
So why does closing an account make them more profitable?
There could be many many reasons. But none of yours are logical.

 

[جوري]

I'm iffy about banks in US also, its not hard for them to freeze your account if they think you're a "suspect", post 9-11 the shut down many big islamic charities and stole millions of dollar by freezing their accounts and closing them down. Personally, i never use atm nor hardly write checks. I do everything online, faster and easier that way. I just use like visa card or something and then pay it in full each month electronically from the bank. As for money, just write a check to yourself when you need money.

That is not a bad idea.. I hardly use cash anyhow, unless it is a small shop on the way or I am driving and need a drink or something light...a good old fashioned iron safe behind a painting will do I suppose? but there will be no room for cash at all in the future :hmm:

 

[Thanaa]

It seems that every one wants to assume the worst about HSBC.

Good businesses don't do stupid things. (As a general rule)

Oh they do.
You probably dont get any UK channels where you are (Us right?), unless you have Sky, I guess.
Ever seen 'Watchdog'?
Banks like HSBC like to charge people stupid amounts for admin, say, £35, when it only cost them £3.50p. :thumbs_do
So...when people complain, and take back their money (which they are entitled to do), the Banks (inc. HSBC) have been known to shut down their accounts because the relationship between bank and customer is "damaged".
The only reason its "damaged" is because the customer demanded a refund...which they are allowed to do.
Basically, many banks in the UK are run by morons and bullies.
So I guess HSBC isnt a good business at all. I dont think Barclays is either-they keep charging me for an account, and Im pretty certain that theyre not meant to take that much...could just be me though.
Mind you, I need to get a decent interest-free account...

 

[wilberhum]

Oh they do.
You probably dont get any UK channels where you are (Us right?), unless you have Sky, I guess.
Ever seen 'Watchdog'?
Banks like HSBC like to charge people stupid amounts for admin, say, £35, when it only cost them £3.50p. :thumbs_do
So...when people complain, and take back their money (which they are entitled to do), the Banks (inc. HSBC) have been known to shut down their accounts because the relationship between bank and customer is "damaged".
The only reason its "damaged" is because the customer demanded a refund...which they are allowed to do.
Basically, many banks in the UK are run by morons and bullies.
So I guess HSBC isnt a good business at all. I dont think Barclays is either-they keep charging me for an account, and Im pretty certain that theyre not meant to take that much...could just be me though.
Mind you, I need to get a decent interest-free account...

One simple question.
Are they making a profit?
Well two question, ;D Are they making huge profits?
If the answers are yes and yes, then they arn't too stupid.

 

[Thanaa]

One simple question.
Are they making a profit?
Well two question, ;D Are they making huge profits?
If the answers are yes and yes, then they arn't too stupid.

Lol. I suppose youre right on that one!

 

[Muezzin]

It seems that every one wants to assume the worst about HSBC.

Good businesses don't do stupid things. (As a general rule)

True, but it's not going to look good from a PR standpoint - HSBC advertises itself as 'The World's Local Bank', implying great, considerate customer relations, so I'm not sure how the customers would react if they heard that their bank stopped helping a charity such as this.

But anyway, I repeat, can the charity not bank with another company?

p.s. Profit is not the be-all and end-all of everything, at least in the UK. Here there is legislation designed to prevent unfairness, and if companies are caught they are punished and forced to repair the damage. As they should be. Businesses should not be exempt from the law (or even mere criticism) simply because they represent the commercial soul of this society. That doesn't mean this particular story is legally actionable, I just felt the need to correct certain misconceptions - when you let profit justify unfair/unreasonable treatment of others, you have become greedy.

 

[islamirama]

That is not a bad idea.. I hardly use cash anyhow, unless it is a small shop on the way or I am driving and need a drink or something light...a good old fashioned iron safe behind a painting will do I suppose? but there will be no room for cash at all in the future :hmm:

a new revert sister in south africa moved to syria, made hijra by herself. The best solution to all the problems is hijra from the kuffar land.