U.S. plans big arms sale to Saudi Arabia

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yigiter187 said:
usa accuses many countries of supporting terrörism...but its economy is generally based on war,weapon industry.....isnt this two-facedness?
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Our economy is based on war and the weapon industry? Interesting, I'll have to inform the stock market.
 
yigiter187 said:
usa accuses many countries of supporting terrörism...but its economy is generally based on war,weapon industry.....isnt this two-facedness?
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two-facedness? Most countries put forth many more than two.

PS:MTAFFI Stop all the harassing. You have no right to defend your self. :giggling:
 
then say me please how much does usa earn annualy from selling weapons,rockets,etc...?
pkk terrörist in turkey use american weapons...arrested terrorists confess that usa troops bring weapons to them...
 
yigiter187 said:
then say me please how much does usa earn annualy from selling weapons,rockets,etc...?
pkk terrörist in turkey use american weapons...arrested terrorists confess that usa troops bring weapons to them...
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I would say the US makes a substantial amount of $ on weaponry, but I wouldnt think that it is the base of the US economy, the US economy is extremely diverse, maybe the most diverse in the world (I will look it up and let you know, sorry for answering ignorantly)

here is a good summary of the US economy just scroll down
 
yigiter187 said:
then say me please how much does usa earn annualy from selling weapons,rockets,etc...?
pkk terrörist in turkey use american weapons...arrested terrorists confess that usa troops bring weapons to them...
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In 2004 total weapons sales made by the Pentagon was $24 Billion, which doesn't include private arms companies who apply for a licence through the State Deparment. In total, that is a very small portion of the U.S. economy. If you really want to explore this area try http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/worldfms.html

As for "usa troops" bringing weapons to the PKK...well, that is quite a dubious claim.
 
Keltoi said:
In 2004 total weapons sales made by the Pentagon was $24 Billion, which doesn't include private arms companies who apply for a licence through the State Deparment. In total, that is a very small portion of the U.S. economy. If you really want to explore this area try http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/worldfms.html

As for "usa troops" bringing weapons to the PKK...well, that is quite a dubious claim.
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nice source!
 
After all the work I put into finding a reliable source on U.S. weapons transactions this thread will be closed...:)
 
Keltoi said:
In 2004 total weapons sales made by the Pentagon was $24 Billion, which doesn't include private arms companies who apply for a licence through the State Deparment. In total, that is a very small portion of the U.S. economy. If you really want to explore this area try http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/worldfms.html

As for "usa troops" bringing weapons to the PKK...well, that is quite a dubious claim.
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dubious calim? well it is not me who claims this...turkish defence ministry says this...turkish soldiers find american made weapons on killed terrorists,and arrested terrorists confess that usa brings weapons to pkk camps in north ıraq...
 
yigiter187 said:
dubious calim? well it is not me who claims this...turkish defence ministry says this...turkish soldiers find american made weapons on killed terrorists,and arrested terrorists confess that usa brings weapons to pkk camps in north ıraq...
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There are American made weapons floating all across Iraq, most of them stolen police weapons intended for the Iraqi security forces. There is no logical or political reason for the U.S. to be supplying arms to a terrorist organization opposed to Turkey. While the relationship is still troubled due to the Iraq War, there are steps being made to mend this relationship. It wouldn't surprise me if the Kurds of Iraq were given access to weapons, as they are allies in that country, but as for the U.S. directly and purposely giving military assistance to the PKK..well, until there is actual evidence of this I must call bull excrement on those claims.
 
it is very diffucult to tell the situation to you....
okay ignore everything we have written.....
then please tell me why usa does nothing to stop,to put an end to pkk though usa recognise pkk as an terroist group...
 
ım goın so ı will say you the reason why america doent stop pkk..
because pkk services for american aims on turkey...it is very clear...
 
yigiter187 said:
ım goın so ı will say you the reason why america doent stop pkk..
because pkk services for american aims on turkey...it is very clear...
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What aims are those? Turkey is considered a U.S. ally, and the E.U. will probably accept them as a member before too long. It is very easy to make accusations, but what exactly would the U.S. gain by supporting the PKK, whom you admit is listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S., against Turkey, a recognized ally?
 
yigiter187 said:
ım goın so ı will say you the reason why america doent stop pkk..
because pkk services for american aims on turkey...it is very clear...
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"American aims on Turkey" ? :D :D :D Oh, that is rich. You can't seriously believe that.

The Kurds are our allies in Iraq but they don't take orders from us. In fact, there was recent friction because of the presence of Iranian Rev. Guard types in Kurdish territory.

Did it ever occur to you the PKK might say they were being supplied by the US just to put a burr under your saddle?
 
yigiter187 said:
usa accuses many countries of supporting terrörism...but its economy is generally based on war,weapon industry.....isnt this two-facedness?
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Only a small percentage of the US economy is based on the arms industry though. The US spends about 3.5% of its GDP in defense. Another $5bn a year of arms is exported each year (which is like 0.05% of GDP), quite low really. Russia exports like 10 times that share of the economy.

So I disagree. Besides, I don't really see the point about the 'two-facedness' of having large military industries and condemning other states for supporting terrorism.
 
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Can we please try and discuss these issues like CIVILISED people. You so don't want to get me angry, 5 minutes before I go to bed. Heck, I might just accidentally ban half of the forum...permanently.
 
Just for comparison, Boeing sold 112 Billion $ worth of commerical airliners in 2005

How many hamburgers do you think McDonalds sold in 2006?

What is the value of Hollywood's ticket sales and dvd sales in 2006?
 
aamirsaab said:
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Can we please try and discuss these issues like CIVILISED people. You so don't want to get me angry, 5 minutes before I go to bed. Heck, I might just accidentally ban half of the forum...permanently.
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Which half? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I might want to tempt you.:? :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:
 
ISLAMASWEENEY said:
America is trying to start a arms race in the region.
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I could be wrong. But I think that more specifically it is the world's arms sellers that are the ones rubbing their hands with joy. They don't care who they sell to or what was the source they get them from, as long as they have a willing market to buy the weapons, use them as fast as possible and place more orders for replacements.

The Arms race is great business for the arms dealers, who all are living quietly and peacefully, far away from any area in which they may be a target for their own products.

a google search for Arms sellers is very interesting.

Arms sellers turn eye to "new" Libya

By ELAINE GANLEY

The Associated Press

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Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi



French president Nicolas Sarkozy

PARIS — The Libyan army, until now largely stuck with obsolete equipment from the 1970s and 1980s, will soon be getting new hardware: European anti-tank missiles and advanced communications systems.

European defense group EADS announced Friday that it has completed a contract for the new hardware — reportedly worth $405 million — with the North African country run by Col. Moammar Gadhafi, which is rapidly shedding its status as a pariah and luring Western arms manufacturers with its oil wealth.

"There is no reason why there isn't a bonanza to be had here," said David Hartwell, Mideast and North Africa editor for the London-based risk-assessment publication Jane's Country Risk.

"If Libya is able to open up its market efficiently, there is potentially billions of dollars to be made there and, conversely, to be spent."
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Source: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003821064_libya05.html


Russia, France now top arms sellers
Article from: Agence France-Presse



From correspondents in Washington

October 29, 2006 08:53pm

THE US ceded to Russia and France last year its role of the top arms supplier to the developing world as it failed to take full advantage of emerging markets and opportunities created by booming oil prices.

The annual report by the Congressional Research Service showed the US share in the total value of all arms transfer agreements concluded in 2005 dropped to 20.5 per cent from 35.4 per cent the year before.

In monetary terms, the value of these deals concluded by the United States fell from $US9.4 billion ($12.3 billion) in 2004 to about $US6.2 billion in 2005.

By contrast, Russia made last year $US7 billion worth of such deals in Asia, Africa and Latin America, a notable increase from $US5.4 billion in 2004, which propelled Russia to the position of the top arms supplier to the developing world, the report said.
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Source: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20665892-5005961,00.html


Russia Tops in Quantity of Arms Shipped in 2002

Due to its export of hundreds of missiles to China and Kuwait, Russia shipped more individual weapons around the globe than any other country last year, according to data volunteered by arms sellers to the UN Register of Conventional Arms.

Roughly 120 countries have submitted reports this year on their 2002 arms trade to the register, which was established in 1992 to shed light on the global arms market. All countries are called upon annually to provide information to the register on their previous year’s imports and exports of seven types of weapons: tanks, armored combat vehicles (ACVs), large-caliber artillery, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, and missiles and missile launchers. The intent underlying the register’s creation was that arms sellers might show more restraint in brokering weapons deals if they had greater awareness of the total amount of arms a potential buyer was stockpiling.

Moscow claimed that it exported 330 missiles to China and 941 missiles to Kuwait as part of 1,626 total arms deliveries last year. The Kremlin identified another 11 countries, including Algeria, Angola, Burma (Myanmar), and Sudan, as also receiving Russian arms.

Most of Russia’s declared arms exports, including those to China and Kuwait, could not be verified because many of the recipients do not participate in the register.
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Source: http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003_11/UNregister.asp

True, people are making massive profits from the arms race in the Mideast and they will continue to fuel the fires that make it a very lucrative business.
 

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