US Army Trains Soldiers to Shoot Women and Children!!!

[yigiter187]

indeed,no need to train usa troops to kill innocents..because they are already very experienced in doing it..ı think killin 200.000 people in a second is a great experience for usa to kill innnocents...

 

[guyabano]

ı think killin 200.000 people in a second is a great experience for usa to kill innnocents...

Wow ! That is indeed a very high rate, even more faster than birth rate! According to your words, the world population will be erased soon

I'm really speechless !

 

[yigiter187]

Wow ! That is indeed a very high rate, even more faster than birth rate! According to your words, the world population will be erased soon

I'm really speechless !

6 and 9 august 1945 reminds you something?

 

[InToTheRain]

This is not about hatred, its about the Injustice felt by some one who enlisted in the Army.
I never said I hate America, I think the goverment is corrupt and that only ammounts to a handful of people and those who support the goverment are either blind or corrupt themselves. There are many who have shown dislike towards the goverments actions and I am one of them. I do not hate America, I hate injustice and whatever Breeds it.

It is man's Nature to punish many for the crimes of a few, and Gods to punish few for the crimes of many. And in Islam we are taught to forgiveness is the better option even though it is our right to punish those who commit injustice against us just as there will be a time when it's God who has the right to punish us for the sins we commit.

 

[guyabano]

This is not about hatred, its about the Injustice felt by some one who enlisted in the Army.
I never said I hate America, I think the goverment is corrupt and that only ammounts to a handful of people and those who support the goverment are either blind or corrupt themselves. There are many who have shown dislike towards the goverments actions and I am one of them. I do not hate America, I hate injustice and whatever Breeds it.

It is man's Nature to punish many for the crimes of a few, and Gods to punish few for the crimes of many. And in Islam we are taught to forgiveness is the better option even though it is our right to punish those who commit injustice against us just as there will be a time when it's God who has the right to punish us for the sins we commit.

Ok, sorry if I misunderstood something. I agree with you, that politicans are corrupt, but that is not only a US problem, that is an world-wide Problem.
But pretending, young soldiers are teached to shoot innocent civilians, hmmm ?
Anyway, you're right, God will punish the responsible persons for such crimes !

 

[Cognescenti]

This is not about hatred, its about the Injustice felt by some one who enlisted in the Army.
I never said I hate America, I think the goverment is corrupt and that only ammounts to a handful of people and those who support the goverment are either blind or corrupt themselves. There are many who have shown dislike towards the goverments actions and I am one of them. I do not hate America, I hate injustice and whatever Breeds it.

It is man's Nature to punish many for the crimes of a few, and Gods to punish few for the crimes of many. And in Islam we are taught to forgiveness is the better option even though it is our right to punish those who commit injustice against us just as there will be a time when it's God who has the right to punish us for the sins we commit.

Sorry, bro, but it seems to me you do hate America. Your hatred appears all-consuming and irrational. The "I don't hate Americans, just their government" line is worn out and you had best find another rationalization for your blind generalizations. This is a variant of the "some of my best friends are <insert name of ethinic group, race, national origin here>" defence. It doesn't fool anyone.

Do you realize the government of the US is democratically elected? How exactly can a "handful" of people put a government in power when there are well over a hundred million voters?


......I hate injustice and whatever Breeds it.

Oh really? How do you feel about the Taleban and the inspiration for their oppression? Hmmmm?

 

[InToTheRain]

Ok, sorry if I misunderstood something. I agree with you, that politicans are corrupt, but that is not only a US problem, that is an world-wide Problem.!

I agree that Many if not all countries are govermned by the corrupt these days hence the state of the world. This article just happened to catch my eye and shed light on other related news such as the injustice caused by the US armies by using Chemical weapons/WMDs in Fallujah.

But pretending, young soldiers are teached to shoot innocent civilians, hmmm ?

Its his experience vs our opinion. Maybe it was just his regiment or maybe they don't know the implications of what they are teaching which was clearly felt by this man.

 

[Muezzin]

Guys, I'd really like for you to stop bickering and actually discuss the topic - disagree or agree with what is stated by all means, but stop this arguing.

As it is, I'll have to start deleting posts, and because of the recent server trouble, they'll just be moved straight to the Recycling Bin rather than deleted the traditional way, since the traditional way is causing mayhem with the database. That means if your post is deleted, you won't even receive an automated PM telling you why.

All this can be easily avoided if everyone just chills out.

Now, on to the topic:

If true, it shows that there are evil people who like to sing violent songs about killing women and children. But applying common sense, it does not necessarily follow that the entire group is evil.

Sorry, bro, but it seems to me you do hate America. Your hatred appears all-consuming and irrational. The "I don't hate Americans, just their government" line is worn out and you had best find another rationalization for your blind generalizations. This is a variant of the "some of my best friends are <insert name of ethinic group, race, national origin here>" defence. It doesn't fool anyone.

Do you realize the government of the US is democratically elected? How exactly can a "handful" of people put a government in power when there are well over a hundred million voters?

Just because a government is democratically elected doesn't mean it always does what the people want. The member you're replying to is quite clearly separating the actions of the United States Government, of which he does not always approve, from the people of the United States, of which he does not appear to hold any ill-will toward. If the actions in question were each decided by a referendum of the American people, your protestations might hold water.

 

[wilberhum]

Now, on to the topic
Actually the topic is to create and justify blind hate. :raging:

Nothing more and nothing less. :?

All those that feel a need to justify there hate come crawling out from under there rocks.hew

No one who seriously looks at this can only see a scared dumb kid that made a mistake and is trying to justify it. Because if he fails, he will spend a long time in prison. :laugh:

So to really get to the topic go to :skeleton:

www.whyihatetheusa.com

 

[Cognescenti]

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Just because a government is democratically elected doesn't mean it always does what the people want. The member you're replying to is quite clearly separating the actions of the United States Government, of which he does not always approve, from the people of the United States, of which he does not appear to hold any ill-will toward. If the actions in question were each decided by a referendum of the American people, your protestations might hold water.

I would agree that is the impression he is trying to convey and I doubt that he knows enough Americans to develop a personal hatred for them, but to accept the clearly preposterous thesis that the US Army purposely trains its soldiers to kill women requires that the believer possess a template that makes this crazy idea plausible. What is that template? It says the actions of the United States are inherently evil unless proven otherwise. It is as if I harbored a bias that Asian drivers are bad drivers (this is a common bias in the US)...then when I see a car with shaded windows backing into a parking place and smashing into the next car's bumper, I proclaim "*** ****** Asian drivers" even though I have no real knowledge of who is behind the wheel.

The US has a representative republic. There are no true referenda, but there are many checks and balances. For eg., the Congress could stop US active involvement in the war in Iraq tomorrow simply by passing a law that withdraws funding. They don't do it because they know the American public would tear them to shreds, possibly literally. So this childish notion that a small cabal of insiders pushes around 300 million people is more than annoying.

He could say "I hate the decisions the American people have made since 9-11, in fact I hate it so much I find it hard to be civil and can't be objective"

That, at least, I could respect, but not the wimpy half-statement.

 

[Muezzin]

Fair enough. As long as members attack each other's arguments, rather than each other as people, it's fine.

However, just reviewing this thread, everybody seems to have had their say, on both sides of the fence so to speak. There are also a lot of fights springing up, understandably so given the subject matter.

Since constructive discussion has been exhausted, and since people are and have been arguing, I think it will be best if I close the thread.