TV airing for Islam's story of Christ

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DAWUD_adnan said:
Funny how most christians see Islam as the enemy even though we have the ONLY other religion which makes it a MUST to believe in Jesus.
*some people man,*
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Its maybe because Jesus Christ and muslim Isa are two completely different persons. At least i dont recoginze Christ The Saviour in muslim Isa.
 
islamirama said:
You don't believe in Muhammad .s.a.w. so it's pointless for you to make any documentary showing how you see him. We on the other hand not only believe in Jesus but have more right to him then you do. He was a Muslim (submitting to the will of God) as were all other prophets before him. This documentary is showing how Muslims see and what Islam says about Jesus. Why does that bother you?
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You are wrong. Christians believe that Muhammad was a historical person. Of course for us he wasnt a prophet of God, but he existed, so we could also make a documentary about him.
It bothers me because muslims dont show programms in muslim countries neglecting the prophethood of Muhammad. Only we politicly correct loosers undermine our culture and religion :offended:
 
Aaron85 said:
Only we politicly correct loosers undermine our culture and religion :offended:
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No. John Stuart Mill argued (and I happen to agree with him) that unless even almost universal - which is hardly the case here - views are challenged and discussed they just become "dead dogma".. people still believe them, but have no real idea why. If they have no idea why, sooner or later their views become unimportant and cease to motivate human behaviour.
 
Aaron85 said:
You are wrong. Christians believe that Muhammad was a historical person. Of course for us he wasnt a prophet of God, but he existed, so we could also make a documentary about him.
It bothers me because muslims dont show programms in muslim countries neglecting the prophethood of Muhammad. Only we politicly correct loosers undermine our culture and religion :offended:
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There are many historical figures one can make documentary of. Remember the movie Kingdom of Heaven ( I think), that shows salahudin and how merciful he was to the crusaders despite having the upper hand.

Anyways, I don't think you will ever show Jesus as NOT son of God in your country, so what makes you think we would show anything neglecting the Prophethood of Muhammad s.a.w. And besides, why would we even go there in the first place when it is a Muslim country where majority believe otherwise. America is not a christian country, it is a secular country that separates state and church.

Aaron85 said:
Its maybe because Jesus Christ and muslim Isa are two completely different persons. At least i dont recognize Christ The Saviour in muslim Isa.
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You're right. Jesus and Isa don't seem like the same person and most definitely are not the same. The Isa we believe in and love is the son of Maryam and prophet of God. The Jesus you believe in is son of God based on the pagan religion of Sun god worship that the religion of Paul taught you, a false religion that incorporated many pagan rituals and believes (like Dec 25 as xmas) to win converts.
 
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islamirama said:
There are many historical figures one can make documentary of. Remember the movie Kingdom of Heaven ( I think), that shows salahudin and how merciful he was to the crusaders despite having the upper hand.
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Actually this film was a political correct propaganda. It showed crusades as the bad guys and muslims only as good guys.

Anyways, I don't think you will ever show Jesus as NOT son of God in your country, so what makes you think we would show anything neglecting the Prophethood of Muhammad s.a.w. And besides, why would we even go there in the first place when it is a Muslim country where majority believe otherwise. America is not a christian country, it is a secular country that separates state and church.
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Its about England , not America. Yes it is secular country but was built on christian culture, just check the english churches or other remains.

You're right. Jesus and Isa don't seem like the same person and most definitely are not the same. The Isa we believe in and love is the son of Maryam and prophet of God. The Jesus you believe in is son of God based on the pagan religion of Sun god worship that the religion of Paul taught you, a false religion that incorporated many pagan rituals and believes (like Dec 25 as xmas) to win converts.
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The difference between Christ and muslim Isa is that Christ was a historical person, while there was no single historical refference about the muslim Isa as muslims see him.
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Aaron85 said:
Actually this film was a political correct propaganda. It showed crusades as the bad guys and muslims only as good guys.
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Firstly we are talking about Isa not the crusades, so don't know where political propaganda came in. 2ndly, every hollywood movie is a political propaganda. The Muslim is always portrayed as the evil man, terrorists, and what not. So why are you crying ?



Its about England , not America. Yes it is secular country but was built on christian culture, just check the english churches or other remains.
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yes, it is built on christian values but it boasts about being a secular and religion free state. So they religion isn't much of a concern for them except maybe on sundays. For Muslims, religion is a way of life. Muslim countries are religion part of them in every aspect. You truly don't have a christian nation, you have nations full of christians but no christian nation governed by christanity. That is the point i was trying to make.



The difference between Christ and muslim Isa is that Christ was a historical person, while there was no single historical refference about the muslim Isa as muslims see him.
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The difference is that you chose to worship a man and we chose to see him for what he is, a Messenger and nothing more. Stop following Paul's religion of trinity and you'll find the religion of Jesus.
 
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I don't know about it's permissibility.. so Allaah knows best, since i'm not sure whether it's permissible to depict Prophets since their so highly honored in the sight of Allaah. If someone can provide a fatwa that it's permissible, insha Allaah i can post the links.
 
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I don't know about it's permissibility.. so Allaah knows best, since i'm not sure whether it's permissible to depict Prophets since their so highly honored in the sight of Allaah. If someone can provide a fatwa that it's permissible, insha Allaah i can post the links.
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oh...the tv shows depict prophets? Then inshaAllah i will not be interested.
 
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I have a link but I don't know whether I am allowed to post it.

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I saw it too (on video), was not very impressed with it though (since it included parts from an Iranian film called "saint Marry")

however I did appreciate the intentions of ITV

 
north_malaysian said:
erm... how about Baha'i Faith? They believe in Jesus too right?
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Well, no actually they don't, as they believe that ALL religions are ONE, this would be a clear contradiction, because hindus or jewish people for instance do not believe in Jesus.:)
They also believe that messengers are half divine, then why would the messengers say they are not , does this make them liars?
 
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Aaron85 said:
You are wrong. Christians believe that Muhammad was a historical person. Of course for us he wasnt a prophet of God, but he existed, so we could also make a documentary about him.
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Ya, that would allow you to make a documentry on him but not something against him. You don't believe in him at all. How will you refute his prophethood? We Muslims believe in Jesus Christ(pbuh) as a messenger of GOD. Jesus's name is mentioned more than Muhammad's(pbuh) own in the Qur'an. The documentry depicts what the Qur'an says, that's all. And the Qur'an denies Jesus's divinity. Does the bible reject Muhammad's(pbuh) prophethood. Wait, in your version, he's not even mentioned. Hope everything is clear.

By the way, there was a documentry on Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) by a non-Muslim source, National Geographic. It was called "Muhammad, The legacy of a Prophet"

Peace!
 
hmmm5 said:
Ya, that would allow you to make a documentry on him but not something against him. You don't believe in him at all. How will you refute his prophethood? We Muslims believe in Jesus Christ(pbuh) as a messenger of GOD. Jesus's name is mentioned more than Muhammad's(pbuh) own in the Qur'an. The documentry depicts what the Qur'an says, that's all. And the Qur'an denies Jesus's divinity. Does the bible reject Muhammad's(pbuh) prophethood. Wait, in your version, he's not even mentioned. Hope everything is clear.

By the way, there was a documentry on Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) by a non-Muslim source, National Geographic. It was called "Muhammad, The legacy of a Prophet"

Peace!
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Yes you are quite right. For christians muslim prophet Muhammed is not more important than other historical persons like Napoleon or Julius Caeser. But all i wanted to say is that its so stupid to show a documentary neglecting divinity of Christ in a country where majority of people are (still ) christians, and that used to call itself a christian nation. :offended:
 
While it doesn't contain much new information for those who are already familiar with Islam's view of Jesus (as), I thought it was a decent piece.


As for it being shown in a "christian" country, well, perhaps that "christian" country should have thought long and hard before colonizing largely muslim lands, making them part of her empire, and as such, dilouting the "christian" nature of the realm. Can't blame muslims for the fact that they're subjects of the queen.
 
Aaron85 said:
Yes you are quite right. For christians muslim prophet Muhammed is not more important than other historical persons like Napoleon or Julius Caeser. But all i wanted to say is that its so stupid to show a documentary neglecting divinity of Christ in a country where majority of people are (still ) Christians, and that used to call itself a christian nation. :offended:
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only a person, so blinded with hatred of Islam will see things the way you do, otherwise any sane person would have seen the balance shown in the program.

for every Muslim claim that was made about Christ, there was a counter claim shown by Christian speakers.

Program was also polluted by Sufi and Shiite speakers as well as a excerpts from a Shiite film depicting the life of Hzrat Mariam Alaisalaam.
 
NoName55 said:
only a person, so blinded with hatred of Islam will see things the way you do, otherwise any sane person would have seen the balance shown in the program.

for every Muslim claim that was made about Christ, there was a counter claim shown by Christian speakers.

Program was also polluted by Sufi and Shiite speakers as well as a excerpts from a Shiite film depicting the life of Hzrat Mariam Alaisalaam.
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Well ok i agree with you, maybe i overreacred a bit. I didnt know that there were counter arguments by christian scholars. I simply didnt watch that programme, because i dont live in GB. But i hope that you understand me, you would feel the same if in a muslim country was shown a programme with negative view about Muhammed right?
 
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