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is going to the local supermarket/deli, eg coles, woolies, etc and buying for example chicken drumsticks permissible, as i have seen some people do this, and feel abit weird about it.

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Salam sister,

I found this link regarding your questions:

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=40216&ln=eng&txt=meat

It says you are allowed to eat the meat, even tho u are unsure if it's halal.
I never knew this myself.. i thought, meat that was not slaughtered in the name of Allah was haram.. but this says otherwise...

hope this helps...tho it's kinda confused me! lol

See As’ilat al-Baab il-Maftooh, vol. 1, p. 77, by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him).

w'salam
 
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Salam sister,

I found this link regarding your questions:

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=40216&ln=eng&txt=meat

It says you are allowed to eat the meat, even tho u are unsure if it's halal.
I never knew this myself.. i thought, meat that was not slaughtered in the name of Allah was haram.. but this says otherwise...

hope this helps...tho it's kinda confused me! lol

See As’ilat al-Baab il-Maftooh, vol. 1, p. 77, by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him).

w'salam
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jazakallahu khair.
that helped alot!! that has averted alot of arguments. i htought you only say the name of allah over the meat that has been slaughted by the people of the book, i didn't know it was just anyone. by the way, what bit confused you and why.
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*~Sofia~* said:
It says you are allowed to eat the meat, even tho u are unsure if it's halal.
I never knew this myself.. i thought, meat that was not slaughtered in the name of Allah was haram.. but this says otherwise...
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But the condition was that it was provided to you by a Muslim. Obviously you aren't going to ask a Muslim if his meat is halal or not (how insulting :uuh:). Allowance was also given for food presented by a Jew or Christian because we are allowed to eat their meat.

Your local supermarket is not Muslim/Jew/Christian so as far as I know it does not apply.
 
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maryam11 said:
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jazakallahu khair.
that helped alot!! that has averted alot of arguments. i htought you only say the name of allah over the meat that has been slaughted by the people of the book, i didn't know it was just anyone. by the way, what bit confused you and why.
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You have misunderstood!

Sorry needed to make it bright so you didn't miss it! :D

The fatwa said:

But by the grace of Allaah, if an action is done by the appropriate people, then the basic principle is that it is sound and valid unless there is evidence to the contrary.​

Appropriate people means Muslim/Christian/Jew, NOT just anyone!

If there comes to us meat that has been slaughtered by a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian, then we do not ask about it and we do not say, “How was it slaughtered? [...]​

I hope you haven't rushed of to coles already. :X
 
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Salam sis,

glad it helped you out :D the bit im confused about is that i thought any meat that wasn't slaughtered in the name of Allah was haram.
Say the name of Allaah yourself and eat.
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so even if you think it's haram, just say the above and it'll be ok to eat?
dnt get it :?
 
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yeah thats what my qn was.

and thanks sis malaikah. saw it loud and clear. lol and no i havn't rushed off anywhere. im too tired too.
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Malaikah said:
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But the condition was that it was provided to you by a Muslim. Obviously you aren't going to ask a Muslim if his meat is halal or not (how insulting :uuh:). Allowance was also given for food presented by a Jew or Christian because we are allowed to eat there meat.

Your local supermarket is not Muslim/Jew/Christian so as far as I know it does not apply.
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ohhhhhhh ritteeeeeeeeeee! lol duh! :rollseyes i get it now!

But by the grace of Allaah, if an action is done by the appropriate people, then the basic principle is that it is sound and valid unless there is evidence to the contrary
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^I understand this bit now.
jazakhallah :D
 
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Edit- just realised you already understood. lol well I wrote up the post so it is here to stay. :p

As far as I understood that was only if you aren't sure. But if you know for fact that it is haram then you can't eat it.

Also, do note that there is a difference of opinion in this matter. Some scholars say that you have to ask if, for example, the person offering you the meat is known to eat non-halal meat, or if the person was a Christian, in which case they have totally abandoned the proper way of slaughtering and do it in a secular way that does not require saying Allahs name- there are no rules. This meat is haram even though it comes from a Christian.

Alhamdulilah the Jews have very strict rules on slaughtering, even stricter than the Islamic rules and so we can eat food they label as kosher, but you need to be a little careful because they are allowed to add a small amount of alcohol to their food.
 
maryam11 said:
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yeah thats what my qn was. i also just read this fatwa also. read the second paragraph (i think its that one).

and thanks sis malaikah. saw it loud and clear. lol
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;D yeh sister malaikah really helped me understand it lol... i feel so stupid sumtymes! duh :rollseyes lol
 
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I’m confused… Do Christians and Jews slaughter meat in the name of Allah? I’ve never heard that. I don’t know any Christians who slaughter meat in the name of Allah... Perhaps I just don’t know many practicing Christians. Is there any other proof that we are able to eat their meat other than ‘islamqa’, please? I’m finding it hard to understand how it can be Halal to us, when I thought that the biggest thing that made our meat Halal was the fact that we slaughtered it by saying “Bismillah’?
I can see this thread was started a long time ago.. I hope no one minds me bringing it back up.
Take care
 
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I’m confused… Do Christians and Jews slaughter meat in the name of Allah? I’ve never heard that. I don’t know any Christians who slaughter meat in the name of Allah... Perhaps I just don’t know many practicing Christians. Is there any other proof that we are able to eat their meat other than ‘islamqa’, please? I’m finding it hard to understand how it can be Halal to us, when I thought that the biggest thing that made our meat Halal was the fact that we slaughtered it by saying “Bismillah’?
I can see this thread was started a long time ago.. I hope no one minds me bringing it back up.
Take care
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Nah but they are the 'people of the book'
 
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I'm pretty sure that hardly any meat that calls itself halal is actually halal. Many butchers just write the bismillah on the blade of the mechanical slaughter machine, or have the prayer recorded on a CD, which is played in the slaughterhouse. To make matters worse, people stick to the easy rules of slaughter (i.e. don't stun the animal), whilst ignoring the hard ones (i.e. kill the animal with a swift, clean blow to the throat with a sharp knife), which leads to horrible things happening, like animals being pulled through mechanical slaughter machines completely aware of what is going on.

And I challenge you to find free-range halal chickens anywhere other than the internet. Supposedly halal chickens are probably kept in boxes all their lives, to add to the suffering.



As for your fatwas on the subject, can you find one from a site other than Islam-qa, as I boycott it and its extremist rulings about forcing conversions and stuff.

''Rejoice the Holocaust''

''Kill non-Muslims who don't live under Muslim rule''

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whilst still on the topic of meat right :? whats all this about Quorn?! is it meat? or summat else ??! i aint blonde just wondered :-[
 
Nah but they are the 'people of the book'
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O keri Book oye? Which Book? :hmm:

most of these peeps don't even wash their hands after going to the toilet and we're going to be eating meat slaughtered by todays so called PPl of the 'it once existed Book'

maaf karo! +o(
 
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if you're talking about meat from the average supermarket, i am sure it would be haram because the tables, knives etc etc are also used for pork.
 
Muslimah_Sis said:
most of these peeps don't even wash their hands after going to the toilet and we're going to be eating meat slaughtered by todays so called PPl of the 'it once existed Book'
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Well, there are food hygiene regulations, which are strictly controlled.
Any food processing company does well to abide by them, or risk closure.

Being a 'person of the Book' myself, I cannot help but feel slightly hurt by your very sweeping judgment, sis. :(
 

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