God's Warriors

  • Thread starter Thread starter islamirama
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 143
  • Views Views 18K
Palestinians are supported (in many ways) by over billion of muslims worldwide. many muslim countries dont even have diplomatic relationships with Israel, because of Palestinians. And Israel is supported so openly by USA only.Christiansa made many bad things to Jews in history, i think that supporting Israel can at least somehow pay back for those evil doings. I mean, if there are people who feel that supporting zionism and Israel is their religious duty, so we should respect this. You see, in USA pro Israel attitude is norm, but here in Europe its different. being pro Palestinian is something normal. So i think that its fair.
 
Aaron85 said:
Palestinians are supported (in many ways) by over billion of muslims worldwide. many muslim countries dont even have diplomatic relationships with Israel, because of Palestinians. And Israel is supported so openly by USA only.Christiansa made many bad things to Jews in history, i think that supporting Israel can at least somehow pay back for those evil doings. I mean, if there are people who feel that supporting zionism and Israel is their religious duty, so we should respect this. You see, in USA pro Israel attitude is norm, but here in Europe its different. being pro Palestinian is something normal. So i think that its fair.
Click to expand...

i really don't think that they are motivated by guilt or sense of justice. i think it is because of their religious vision about armageddon, that requires all the jews to gather in israel, where they will offered to accept christianity or die.
 
snakelegs said:
i really don't think that they are motivated by guilt or sense of justice. i think it is because of their religious vision about armageddon, that requires all the jews to gather in israel, where they will offered to accept christianity or die.
Click to expand...

Well probably you are right, but if you remember from this programme, John Hagee (dont know if i correctly write his surname), pastor, explained why he feels that Jews are his brothers in faith. Its not that he wishes them hellfire.There is honest friendship between such evangelical christians and zionist Jews. BTW Jews actually think that christians will burn in hell, so there are no double standards in this. :)
 
Aaron85 said:
Well probably you are right, but if you remember from this programme, John Hagee (dont know if i correctly write his surname), pastor, explained why he feels that Jews are his brothers in faith. Its not that he wishes them hellfire.There is honest friendship between such evangelical christians and zionist Jews. BTW Jews actually think that christians will burn in hell, so there are no double standards in this. :)
Click to expand...

incorrect. non-jews do not burn in hell if they live as decent, moral and ethical human beings and do good deeds. if you doubt this ask rav on the jewish thread in comparative religion.
whereas non-christians burn in hell no matter how good a life they have led.
p.s. i didn't see the program (have no tv and so far haven't had time to watch it on youtube - that's why i was asking about it).
 
snakelegs said:
incorrect. non-jews do not burn in hell if they live as decent, moral and ethical human beings and do good deeds. if you doubt this ask rav on the jewish thread in comparative religion.
whereas non-christians burn in hell no matter how good a life they have led.
p.s. i didn't see the program (have no tv and so far haven't had time to watch it on youtube - that's why i was asking about it).
Click to expand...

Ok i admit that my knowledge about judaism isnt impressive, my mistake.Anyway, in my opinion the part of this programme about judaism was very interesting. Amybe its because i am charmed by orthodox judaism. :mmokay:
 
Aaron85 said:
Im sorry to say this but for me this programm is just simply anti christian propaganda. This programme compares conservative (radical?) christians who take part in cultural struggle against abortion and against legalizing same sex marriages, with muslim terrorists who kill people. For me its insane.
Click to expand...

Correct. Christianity went on their genocidal spree years ago, thankfuly violence is not tolerated in Christian lands anymore because of secularims.
 
Aaron85 said:
Ok i admit that my knowledge about judaism isnt impressive, my mistake.Anyway, in my opinion the part of this programme about judaism was very interesting. Amybe its because i am charmed by orthodox judaism. :mmokay:
Click to expand...

it's interesting. they have a number of things in common with islam.
 
I have to correct one thing. While there are many Christians who support Israel because of religious belief, overall the support of Israel is due to historical and political precedent, which has its roots in the post-WWII environment. Granted, there are many Evangelicals who believe in the apocalyptic prophecies in the Book of Revelations, but I believe the support of Israel would still exist without those elements.
 
you have a point and of course, no one can say what motivates all christians.
but i think what i said is true about the christian evangelicals and they are the biggest christian supporters of zionism.
 
I think a lot of the west's support for Israel comes out of not so much a link to Israel as a fear of the muslim states. I think Israel is seen by a lot of western politicians as a buffer state, keeping them from us.

I think a lot of western politicians believe that if it was in the power of Iran and other muslim states to do so, they would whipe out the western world immediately and without provocation. I believe that is a misconception, and I believe it is a powerful one.

If the islamic states ever managed to destroy that misconception (and the current president of Iran doesn't help in that) and if what Israel has done to the palestinians (as seen in this documentary) gets more well known, the Islamic states may take the perceived moral high ground. And I think Israel relies on having the perceived moral high ground and if Israel loses it Israel is finished.
 
Pygoscelis said:
I think a lot of the west's support for Israel comes out of not so much a link to Israel as a fear of the muslim states. I think Israel is seen by a lot of western politicians as a buffer state, keeping them from us.

I think a lot of western politicians believe that if it was in the power of Iran and other muslim states to do so, they would whipe out the western world immediately and without provocation. I believe that is a misconception, and I believe it is a powerful one.

If the islamic states ever managed to destroy that misconception (and the current president of Iran doesn't help in that) and if what Israel has done to the palestinians (as seen in this documentary) gets more well known, the Islamic states may take the perceived moral high ground. And I think Israel relies on having the perceived moral high ground and if Israel loses it Israel is finished.
Click to expand...


israel is seen by me as a intellectual state which has great achievements in science and very useful areas. It is an pond of hope in an oasis of religious extremism. yes, some israelis are extremists to, but the country is run by secularists.
 
Basirah said:
israel is seen by me as a intellectual state which has great achievements in science and very useful areas. It is an pond of hope in an oasis of religious extremism. yes, some israelis are extremists to, but the country is run by secularists.
Click to expand...

Thats still no excuse to break international law, especially this openly.
 
I truly love distortions. Israel is a country.
Palestinians are a group of people.
The UN issues Resolutions against countries, not people. :skeleton:
 
wilberhum said:
I truly love distortions. Israel is a country.
Palestinians are a group of people.
The UN issues Resolutions against countries, not people. :skeleton:
Click to expand...

Correction:

Palestine is a country (look at the maps before 1948)
"israel" is an occupied Territory by terrorists funded by westerner powers

UN resolutions are against western imposed "country" on the local inhabitants
 
islamirama said:
Correction:

Palestine is a country (look at the maps before 1948)
"israel" is an occupied Territory by terrorists funded by westerner powers

UN resolutions are against western imposed "country" on the local inhabitants
Click to expand...
Read again it dose not say "Palestine", it says "Palestinians".
Your source, not mine. :?
 
wilberhum said:
Read again it dose not say "Palestine", it says "Palestinians".
Your source, not mine. :?
Click to expand...

Chop a country into pieces, occupy it and stmp your name stamp on their land and erase their's from the map, and you think they don't have a country anymore? What do you think Palestinians means?....people of Palestine!
 
islamirama said:
Chop a country into pieces, occupy it and stmp your name stamp on their land and erase their's from the map, and you think they don't have a country anymore? What do you think Palestinians means?....people of Palestine!
Click to expand...
You still don't get it do you?

Tell me how many UN Resolutions there are against. Say the Russians?
Or the Poles? Or the Australians? Or the Germans? Or <Insert the name of any people>?

The answer is none. :D
 
In my view after seeing all three episodes, this programme is trying to promote to the world that religion and religious people are nothing but trouble, they are trying to promote atheism.
 

Similar Threads

Back
Top