Taliban readies for Ramadan

[ahsan28]

India's problem with terrorism is probably there reason.
But if I was you, I would focus more on why the other 180+ did not recognize them.

What Afghanistan has to do with instability and security related problems in India?

So in your opinion, recognition of Talibans by other countries was far more important than the majority approval, they enjoyed on the internal front on assumption of power.

By that logic, the existing Afghan Govt is better than Talibans, which has recognition by the West, despite the fact, it doesn't exsercise any authority outside Kabul and has miserably failed in tackling internal security and resurgence of Talibans.

 

[wilberhum]

What Afghanistan has to do with instability and security related problems in India?
I gave you my openion. What is yours?

So in your opinion, recognition of Talibans by other countries was far more important than the majority approval, they enjoyed on the internal front on assumption of power.
It is your assumption they enjoyed "internal" support, not mine.

By that logic, the existing Afghan Govt is better than Talibans, which has recognition by the West, despite the fact, it doesn't exsercise any authority outside Kabul and has miserably failed in tackling internal security and resurgence of Talibans.
The fact that there has been major failures in removing them from all power does not make them "The Good Guys".

Peace
Wilber

 

[ahsan28]

India was opposed to Talibans because they marginalized Indian influence in Afghanistan. India did not recognize the Taliban government because of its tilt towards Pakistan. As part of its efforts to maintain its influence in Afghanistan and counter Pakistan’s support to the Taliban Government, India established links with the Northern Alliance in collaboration with Iran. In post Taliban scenerio, India is now more active in Afghanistan, as compared to the past. They wanted to dominate and influence Afghanistan in sheer retaliation to Pakistan, not due to some security concerns and terrorism.

They wanted to ensure that Afghanistan, which is being considered a strategic depth for Pakistan in case of Indo-Pak war is turned into hostile country for Pakitan and they are quite successful in their efforts.

 

[wilberhum]

India was opposed to Talibans because they marginalized Indian influence in Afghanistan. India did not recognize the Taliban government because of its tilt towards Pakistan. As part of its efforts to maintain its influence in Afghanistan and counter Pakistan’s support to the Taliban Government, India established links with the Northern Alliance in collaboration with Iran. In post Taliban scenerio, India is now more active in Afghanistan, as compared to the past. They wanted to dominate and influence Afghanistan in sheer retaliation to Pakistan, not due to some security concerns and terrorism.

They wanted to ensure that Afghanistan, which is being considered a strategic depth for Pakistan in case of Indo-Pak war is turned into hostile country for Pakitan and they are quite successful in their efforts.

Oh you mean India did it for political reasons. How interesting. :?
That has to be a first.
PS To India, siding with Pakistan is siding with terrorism. You may not agree, in fact neither do I, but probably about 90% of the Hindu Indians would.

Want to dispell one of the other 180+? :hmm:

 

[ahsan28]

siding with Pakistan is siding with terrorism.

Thats why US and the West are siding with Pakistan

Sometimes your statements are based on ground realities ;D

 

[Fishman]

Question: Why do so many Muslims on this site seem to support the Taliban?

 

[ahsan28]

Question: Why do so many Muslims on this site seem to support the Taliban?

Its because they are resisting against unprecedented aggression by the US and NATO forces. Don't you feel sad about indiscriminate killings of Afghan non-combatants including women and children through 1000 kgs smart bombs to an extent that even the puppet Afghan Govt has also started criticising the genocide of Afghans.

 

[al-muslimah]

Because duh they are the mujahideen of allah and his supporters and it is our job to support Islam and Jihad. If you don't then why kind of muslim ru?

May Allah strenghthen them another timeand may he return our khilafah to us and may the word of Allah be the highest.For some reason they remind me of Al-Murabidoon.The reason they are getting stronger is because they, the kuffar coalition NATO and US forces are fighting with adaeefatul msnsoora.

 

[wilberhum]

IMHO The Taliban say Sharia Law and they are assumed to be great Muslims.

They then are willing to dismiss all the kidnappings, drug running, and other criminal acts.

 

[wilberhum]

Its because they are resisting against unprecedented aggression by the US and NATO forces. Don't you feel sad about indiscriminate killings of Afghan non-combatants including women and children through 1000 kgs smart bombs to an extent that even the puppet Afghan Govt has also started criticising the genocide of Afghans.

So before 9/11 you didn't support the Taliban?
Why not?
If you did, then the invasion has nothing to do with why you origionally supported them.
How about a straight answer?

 

[Fishman]

Its because they are resisting against unprecedented aggression by the US and NATO forces. Don't you feel sad about indiscriminate killings of Afghan non-combatants including women and children through 1000 kgs smart bombs to an extent that even the puppet Afghan Govt has also started criticising the genocide of Afghans.

Just because the USA behaved badly doesn't mean the Taliban are good. They are both pretty bad if you ask me.

Because duh they are the mujahideen of allah and his supporters and it is our job to support Islam and Jihad. If you don't then why kind of muslim ru?

May Allah strenghthen them another timeand may he return our khilafah to us and may the word of Allah be the highest.For some reason they remind me of Al-Murabidoon.The reason they are getting stronger is because they, the kuffar coalition NATO and US forces are fighting with adaeefatul msnsoora.

Who says that the Taliban are the Mujahideen? Themselves?

They have done nothing but brought chaos and destruction to Islam. They should give up and go back to their homes in Saudi and let real Islam take over. When that happens the Americans will get bored with nobody to fight and go home too.

• The way I have been 'brought up' as a new Muslim is being taught that Islam is about loving, serving and worshipping Allaah, being kind to one another and generally being nice, not blowing up skyscrapers full of women and kids as the Taliban do.
• I have been taught that Jihaad can mean a deep spiritual process of cleansing the heart from sinful thoughts and actions, as well as working to protect, spread or help Islam in the world. But the Taliban reduce it to screaming, firing machine guns in the air and waving political banners.
• When I think of Muslims I think of the smiling old men who greet me kindly in the Masjid and I think of my friends who have helped me so much with learning and practicing deen. When I think of the Taliban I think of idiot puritans with guns.

Islam has always been about God, not soldiers. The Taliban should ask themselves what kind of Muslims they are...

 

[ahsan28]

So before 9/11 you didn't support the Taliban?
Why not?
If you did, then the invasion has nothing to do with why you origionally supported them.
How about a straight answer?

Prior to 9/11, Taliban Govt whether good or bad was their internal matter, but now the basless war against terror is affecting the whole region. The mass killings of Afghans are compelling them to retaliate against foreign forces and those, who decided to side with US on usjustifiable grounds and now facing the brunt of showing their unflinching loyalties with US.

Someone rightly said that Pakistan is fighting US war on its own territory

 

[wilberhum]

Prior to 9/11, Taliban Govt whether good or bad was their internal matter, but now the basless war against terror is affecting the whole region. The mass killings of Afghans are compelling them to retaliate against foreign forces and those, who decided to side with US on usjustifiable grounds and now facing the brunt of showing their unflinching loyalties with US.

Someone rightly said that Pakistan is fighting US war on its own territory

basless? You calling protecting international terrorists basless?

 

[ahsan28]

basless? You calling protecting international terrorists basless?

And who are those, busy killing Afghan women and kids with no justification, but I think you would declare them peace-keepers due to their outstanding performance against non-combatants.

 

[Fishman]

And who are those, busy killing Afghan women and kids with no justification, but I think you would declare them peace-keepers due to their outstanding performance against non-combatants.

I doubt Wilber would call them that, based on his previous posts:

Sad to say, I think you are right.
But at the same time it is not there intent to harm women.

There always seams to be a tendency to forget what caused the invasion.
It was not to liberate women it was to take down a terrorist organization that declared war and attacked the US, and there supporters, the Taliban.

Have we done a good job? No way. We have done a horrible job.

For what ever reason, Bush forgot what and who caused 9/11 and went off to start another war. But that is another story.

 

[wilberhum]

And who are those, busy killing Afghan women and kids with no justification, but I think you would declare them peace-keepers due to their outstanding performance against non-combatants.

It is always interesting when people use B to justify A, forgetting A comes before B.

 

[ahsan28]

It is always interesting when people use B to justify A, forgetting A comes before B.

I agree with you, but you need to inform your ideal peace-keepers

 

[muthenna]

Do you feel a rush of glee every time they shoot a woman in the back of the head?

Have you asked the taliban why they shot that woman in the head in the stadium, I chellenge everyone who is against our talib brothers,
-Why did they shoot her? if you dont know than you are rabbling the american and nonmuslim propaganda !

[I have been taught that Jihaad can mean a deep spiritual process of cleansing the heart from sinful thoughts and actions, as well as working to protect, spread or help Islam in the world. But the Taliban reduce it to screaming, firing machine guns in the air and waving political banners.
/QUOTE]
Read surah Taubah, yes jihad means also spiritual bur also involves fighting for the SAKE OF ALLAH, meaning the WORD OF ALLAH TO BE THE HIGHEST (in the land dear brother cause we know it is the highest spiritualy) AND THE WORD OF THE KUFFAR THE LOWEST.

 

[wilberhum]

I agree with you, but you need to inform your ideal peace-keepers

Again you have proven that you have no concept of what I concider ideal or any thing else. :?

You need to lissen to Fishman. There is some one with some common sense.

 

[muthenna]

Those who are against taliban please answer if you know:
Why was that woman shot in the head ?
If you dont know please dont talk about it at all, dont support american propaganda blindly