Do you ever have (or had) moments of doubt?

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Do you ever have (or had) moments of doubt in your present faith?


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hmmm, good question. But at least sience gave me more answers than any religion.
Science only gives the physical nature of mankind; religion gives both, the spiritual and the physical.
Besides, science and religion are connected. Science teaches about the creation and this increases the appreciation for the Creator.


Wasalam
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nope ! I truly believe in science !

bro...

science quite often doubts itself...

there are so many unanswered q's in science...and in the world which science fails to answer..and wehn it does, they are only theories by random men...and get renewed when a better expalination is found...

hope u get what im trying to say...no offense...u can believe...but u shud have doubts in something like science.....
 
hmmm, good question. But at least sience gave me more answers than any religion.

u cant arrive at a fair conclusion without studying both science and "islam" (not religion) the same ammount!

nothing has given me more answers and practical help to get through life more then islam
 
I said "sometime". Because if I am honest with myself I am never 100% about anything. I have good days and bad days, and sometimes those types of emotional days do effect my affect some. And then there are days when I just wonder to myself, where is God in all of this. But fortunately, those days are generally few and far between. And, if I could have had the option to say "rarely", instead of "sometimes", I would have. But between never and always, I would have to say that most generally my faith is solid, and only some times do I find myself questioning it.
 
Hi Glo:

I voted “never”. I have been tempted by circumstances, and disappointed by the actions of others, and angry at my own failings, but have never wavered in my belief or trust in God nor His care and love for me.

I have modified quite a few of my religious beliefs based on a more accurate interpretation of the scriptures; but the “modification” exercise did not cause me to question my faith/trust in, or love of God.

Regards,
Grenville
 
Do you ever have (or had) moments of doubt?

Of course.. it is human... I won't speak for others but I see no way around it?... sort of when you sense there is something wrong with your body but you ignore it for months hoping it would go away, when you really should have checked it out before it turned into a huge watermelon and you discover(it was benignant all along) but why did you wait so long to find out?

I tread into territories that shake me to the core every day, I do an exhaustive study and once I reason, I never look back. Hence when I write with what others deem as 'condemnations'.. it is really no more than strong convictions after much reflection and thought....

I can't expect others to see eye to eye with me, but I genuinely don't care.. I make on the spot clinical decisions all the time and I don't consult unless I absolutely need someone else's counsel more learned than me.. but I have faith in my own ability to reason.. what I have more faith in is the inevitable decline of all men-- thus I only truly revere and value my creator, who isn't bound by this weak human condition.... Youth and vigor much like the seasons come and wither.. something else has got to give....a conscionable thought somewhere after you are stripped of all that matters in a 'mundane' sense of course.. well, I guess that is the only thing that would be left, I guess that is all you'll take with you?

I haven't found anything that killed my belief... I have had incidents that sent me very close to, moments I considered myself to plunge into absolute madness... I turned my madness into poetry and weakness into faith.. and closed the pages on chagrins and I wrote new ones...

peace!
 
In my life i had moments of atheism, then agnosticism before going back to catholicism.I can say that some personal things caused that i became an atheist and few years later, when i turned 19, other personal things caused that i admitted that i believe in God.It was a process that took few years, i would call it a growing up.When i was 16, 17 i was marxsist- leninist, materialist, with attitudes typical for far left.And now you can see how i changed :). I've grown up i guess.
 
bro...

science quite often doubts itself...

there are so many unanswered q's in science...and in the world which science fails to answer..and wehn it does, they are only theories by random men...and get renewed when a better expalination is found...

hope u get what im trying to say...no offense...u can believe...but u shud have doubts in something like science.....

The physical part is a bit of a stretch, mainly because when you devle deep into the meanings of the ayats and try to understand them within the context, there comes a time when you have to apply your own interpretation to it. I have three printed copies of the quran that give three different translations of the same verses, and if I were to apply the common theory about the meaning of the verse than the other two translations do not support it. That is not to say that the translations themselves are wrong, but it is far more likely that the interpretation that has become commonly accepted could be wrong, because there is an inherrent bias for good muslims unify the concepts which have been made apparent by science with what has been revealed the sacred texts.

Science does not ask you to beleive, or have faith, or make interpretations because if you are wrong then you will surely find out through your observations.

Religion asks for your faith, your belief, because you have no way of observing the effects of your theories or your interpretations, but there is a chance you may find out when you die. At that point however, you taken your chance, and you have no way to rectify your situation because of your misunderstanding.

Scientific theories allow for you to test your hypothesis, and rectify your position. Perhaps a past generation is wrong, but the furute generations have that theory to build upon, and even know which ones are/were incorrect. Faith and belief does not allow for that.

Faylasufs of the ninth century made great efforts to live rationally and in accordance with the natural laws they believed were part and parcel of the holy book. When the study of natural science lead to many dead ends they turned to greek metaphysics and an era of falsafah began in which many muslims were dedicated to proper philosophical reasoning.

Yes, this was the era in which muslims made a great many scientific discoveries, however this was to be science in the pursuit of religion. In Aristotelian terms it was a good for the sake of another good, and not a good in and of itself. To truly be a scientist or philosopher one must abandon all that he/she has been "learned" and be prepared to prove everything of its own accord. While the Faylasufs believed that rationalism represented the most advanced form of religion, they could not escape the fact that a rationalized god is a higher notion of the that has been revealed in scripture.

I'm sorry friends, but if you have not researched the past then it may comes as a shock that generations as much as a millennia past could not reconcile scientific reasoning and the scripture much less the current generations in which many scholars exist with the same religion and a far more advanced science.




I'd also like to nitpick a bit, science does not doubt itself as it itself is not an entity. Only sentient beings such as humans can have or cast doubt. Perhaps a matter of linguistics, but I must make the correction for the debate itself to have any value.

Science cannot contradict itself, as with science there must be a single clear explanation if it is to hold true. However, as we saw in the early 20th century, Einstein modified newton's theory to build his own (more accurate) theory. It is not to say he contradicted science, or that science contradicted itself, but that the certain laws were applicable based on the observations available, and that in the advent of human advancements in technology we were able to realize that there are slightly more correct theories. It had no direct affect on my life, as newton's laws were enough, but surely we have all benefited from his work.
 
Greetings,

I voted 'sometimes', mainly because until I was about 18 I was an agnostic. I only became an atheist after wider study of religion, history, literature and philosophy.

Atheism is my faith-position, so it's natural that it can contain doubt, although I don't ever remember a specific time where I actually suspected that god exists. It would take something pretty drastic for me to doubt that agnosticism is true, though.

Overall, I think everything should be subjected to doubt from time to time. It keeps you on your toes.

Peace
 
All praise due to Allah,and peace and blessings be upon the last Messenger,his family,companions and everyone who follows him till the day of judgement.

If I ever had doubts it was because of lack of knowledge about,the Noble Quran the sunnah of the prophet peace be upon him.That's why it's important to learn and read, because that's how the love for one's faith grows ,and how more I read the quran how more i'm convinced that it's the truth.Because the words of Allah makes me think and ponder about the creation of Allah, like Allah often mentiones in His Quran to see and think about the creation of Allah
And sometimes I think about a matter and wonder about the answer and as soon as I read and search for the answer ,as soon as I find the answer it's logic and it makes me stronger in my faith, May Allah make us stronger in our faith

That's why one of the basic things first is to read,and get to know one's religion and then the love and the sweetness of faith will grow
because how can you in belief in something you don't know. and how can you love something you don't know?
That's why I would reccomend the book ' 3 basic principles' usulu-thalatha
by Imaam Muhammed ibn-abdul wahaab. it's about ma'rifatullah(knowing Allah) ma'rifatu nabiy(Knowing the prophet s.a.w) ma'rifatu dienal-Islaam biladillah( knowing islaam with proof) with the sharh (explanation of sh. Ibn Othaymien)
 
I've had my doubts and sometimes still do. But as long as the love of Islam, Allah swt remain in my heart, i manage to overcome those doubts.
 
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah

the cure to doubt is knowledge.

we should never ever allow doubt to linger in our hearts as that could be very dangerous, if this is happening regularly then it could be a cause for concern... we should have tawaqqul on Allaah right?

its understandable if your shaken sometimes due to a catastrophe but to wake up everyday thinking "is islaam right", is this a sign of a believer?


im asking questions seriously, is it ok to have too much doubt?

10 Ways of Protection from Shaytan
Imam Ibn ul Qayyim al Jawziyyah
Summarized from Bida?i` al-Fawaa'id (304-308)

Seeking refuge with Allah from Shaytan. Allah the Most High said, ?And if there comes to you from Satan an evil suggestion, then seek refuge in Allah. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Knowing.? [41:36]

Recitation of the two soorahs al-Falaq and an-Nas, as they have wondrous effect in seeking refuge with Allah from his evil, weakening Shaytan and protection from him. This is why the Messenger, sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam, said: ?No person seeks refuge with anything like the Mu`awwidhatayn (soorahs al-Falaq and an-Nas)?. [an-Nasaa?i, 5337]

Recitation of Ayat al-Kursi (2:255).

Recitation of soorah al-Baqarah. The Messenger, sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam, said, ?The house in which al-Baqarah is recited is not approached by Shaytan.? [Muslim]

The final part of al-Baqarah. The Messenger, sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam, said, ?Whoever recites the two last verses of al-Baqarah at night they will suffice him.? [Muslim]

Recitation of the beginning of soorah Mu?min (Ghafir), until His saying, ?wa ilayhi-l-maseer? (to Him is the destination). (i.e. ?Ha. Meem. The revelation of the Book is from Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Knowing, the forgiver of sin, acceptor of repentance, severe in punishment, owner of abundance. There is no deity except Him; to Him is the destination.? [40:1-2])

Saying ?la ilaha ill Allah wahdahu la sharika lah, lahul mulku wa lahul hamdu wa huwa `ala kulli shay?in qadir? (there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah, He has no partner, His is the Dominion and Praise, and He is able to do all things) a hundred times.

The most beneficial form of protection from Shaytan: abundance of remembrance of Allah, the Exalted.

Ablution and prayer, and they are from among the greatest means of protection, especially at the time of emergence of anger and desire.

Abstinence from excess speech, food and mixing with people.
 
the cure to doubt is knowledge.
Interesting understanding. I don't think that more knowledge helps me with my doubts. What I find helpful is to be willing to trust more. Of course, knowing the one whom I am trusting is essential, if you had meant knowledge in that sense.
 
Interesting understanding. I don't think that more knowledge helps me with my doubts. .

in islaam whenever i have doubted anything i have searched from the authentic sources of Quran and Sunnah and found an answer which has satisfied my heart, i have yet to find something which knowledge has not been able to cure.

Trust is ofcourse a part of it, but we dont trust what is illogical and clearly unpleasing to the heart


Peace
 
in islaam whenever i have doubted anything i have searched from the authentic sources of Quran and Sunnah and found an answer which has satisfied my heart, i have yet to find something which knowledge has not been able to cure.

Trust is ofcourse a part of it, but we dont trust what is illogical and clearly unpleasing to the heart


Peace

As I said, interesting. I can see where you are coming from. And I am happy that you find this to work in your life for you. I wasn't critiquing your thoughts as much as adding to my own earlier comments.

I guess there are some illogical things I do/have trusted in. When my family didn't have enough funds to send me to university, I doubted that I would be ever able to go (as did my mother), but my father said that I should prepare to go anyway, I did trust in him (however logical it was), and that dream somehow materialized, though I have yet to figure out how it did for my parents never paid for it, but I still managed to get through. If I hadn't trusted in my father, however illogical it was, I would not have been ready when it was time to attend. That, for me, was a time when trust was as important as knowledge. And, in my own walk with God, I have found that to be true in spiritual matters in some similar ways. So, I know who it is that I trust, and cast all my doubts on him. That has sometimes sustained my faith, when there seemed to be no logical reason to do so.
 
Peace

but in that situation your father had encouraged you and given you best wishes, you know that there is a God to support you and friends and family to help you along the way.

It wasnt completely illogical, well not to me :)
 
in islaam whenever i have doubted anything i have searched from the authentic sources of Quran and Sunnah and found an answer which has satisfied my heart, i have yet to find something which knowledge has not been able to cure.

Trust is ofcourse a part of it, but we dont trust what is illogical and clearly unpleasing to the heart


Peace

assalamu alaikum/peace all

I voted 'sometimes', and I agree with the brother quoted above, knowledge is an antidote to doubt together with prayer.

When I am feeling very strong in imaan and feel that God is as real and as near to me as my keyboard, like now (alhamdulillah) it seems incredible that I would ever have a doubt again. But somehow, for lots of different reasons eg because of day-to-day stresses and maybe not devoting enough time to worship and reflection, imaan becomes low. God seems distant and I feel kind of cut-off from Him. asking Him for help and guidance is one way that I get back to normal again, and then sometimes during the prayer you get a very strong feeling - I'm sure lots of people will know what I mean - a feeling of His nearness and His infinite love and mercy that makes you want to cry.

Other Muslims are sometimes a terrible trial - for a while I was in close contact with a group of sisters who had very harsh and intolerant views and that really brought my iman low. This kind of Muslim is usually so sure of themselves and so quick to accuse everyone of kufr. I found I had to go back to basics and read the qur'an a lot and sadly had to lose contact with some people I previously regarded as friends but whose views I just couldn't stomach.

:w:
 
Peace

but in that situation your father had encouraged you and given you best wishes, you know that there is a God to support you and friends and family to help you along the way.
YES!!! That type of "knowing" that you speak of here is exactly what I mean by "trust".

It wasnt completely illogical, well not to me :)
That's cool. I really appreciate what you have said on this. We are used to using different words to describe our experience, but I think we are describing the same experience in terms of how we first face and then overcome our occassions of doubt.
 
hola

not necessarily doubts about Catholicism... but i experienced doubts that God loves me after my miscarriage and when my husband became physically abusive... it was a momentary fall and i heavily regret it.

que Dios te bendiga
 

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