U.S. sets record in sexual disease cases

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I must agree with you again. The contrculture started in 60's caused big demoralization in american society. Sexual revolution, pornography,radical feminism changed this nation. Contrculture propagandists took over the whole american culture,movies (Hollywood),music,theater,newspapers,tv channels(MTV and immoral films).They can promote every type of immoral behaviour,free sex (just look what is showed in most of Hollywood movies).We must also notice that it is not the whole truth about USA. Still there are many people who follow the traditional values and morality,they teach their children in homes(to avoid gay propaganda in public schools).Its also worth to notice that this so called sexual revolution promoted by contrculturalist is nothing more than a marxist dream come true about freeing western man from intolerant christian moral ties.

That is quite true. The counterculture has done quite a lot of damage to the US lifestyle. There was a time when even making out in public was looked down upon, and sexual relations didn't start till people started to look for marriage partners. And today we have kids that are ready to jump in bed even before they hit puberty. Isn't the whole purpose dating is to find a mate to marry and settle down? so i wonder why do we have kids dating and actively having sex. I think the society has gone way down the hill and that is something you will see in any society when people start to abandon religion and the values and norms it teaches them.

Did you know a research done several years back showed those nations that that believed in hell had less crime in their boundaries? Amazing how lewd and corrupt people become if they think there isn't any punishment waiting for them for their crimes.
 
That is quite true. The counterculture has done quite a lot of damage to the US lifestyle. There was a time when even making out in public was looked down upon, and sexual relations didn't start till people started to look for marriage partners. And today we have kids that are ready to jump in bed even before they hit puberty. Isn't the whole purpose dating is to find a mate to marry and settle down? so i wonder why do we have kids dating and actively having sex. I think the society has gone way down the hill and that is something you will see in any society when people start to abandon religion and the values and norms it teaches them.

Did you know a research done several years back showed those nations that that believed in hell had less crime in their boundaries? Amazing how lewd and corrupt people become if they think there isn't any punishment waiting for them for their crimes.
And if you kill homosexuals like Iran then you don't have a problem with homosexuals.

Maybe instead of hell we could use electro shock treatment on the kids.

How about telling them about the boogie man?

When it comes to sex, some people have more hang-ups that a closet.
Sex is not a crime.
 
If theres one thing that i have learned at Load Islam, it's the love people have of Authenticity and Reliability.

Just the words make you think "Wow!, this is a genuine bona fida 100% fact source, esteemed by the intellectual and shunned by the neo-con mindless thought-facists"
Then you follow the link and find that its http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
 
If theres one thing that i have learned at Load Islam, it's the love people have of Authenticity and Reliability.

Just the words make you think "Wow!, this is a genuine bona fida 100% fact source, esteemed by the intellectual and shunned by the neo-con mindless thought-facists"
Then you follow the link and find that its http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

This is great. Thanks for the misinformation.

This will be a great source for debunking islamirama youtube proofs. :laugh::skeleton:
 
I think we are going a bit off topic here...?

STI's are a problem amongst those who have extra-marital relations. No doubt about it.

For those people suggesting that you can get them by other methods, the only other method I can think of is contaminated needles or at birth, the child getting it from the mother, and that is no where near as common as them being transmitted sexually.
 
Thats totally right Mal.

The topic drifted because the O.P was so blatently anti-Yank, and replies started saying " Typical kuffar, us Muslims would never do that" when actually, STD rates are noticably higher.

It's a lesson for everyone to learn, If you want too many partners your doing to spread disease. Stick to one wife or husband and choose them wisely. Yourself.
 
I think we are going a bit off topic here...?

STI's are a problem amongst those who have extra-marital relations. No doubt about it.

For those people suggesting that you can get them by other methods, the only other method I can think of is contaminated needles or at birth, the child getting it from the mother, and that is no where near as common as them being transmitted sexually.

Were you referring to my post? I did not mean that STD's are acquired outside of sexual contact in most cases, I meant that the social stigma around them leads people to believe that those who contracted them are all sexually depraved or jump around to various sexual partners, when that isn't always the case at all. Yes, choosing to engage in sexual activity outside of marriage is the problem, I just don't believe that everyone who contracts such a disease are somehow morally bankrupt.
 
Yeah, sex at age 10 is disgraceful.
Even more at age 9. :)

Here in the U.S we are not concerned with prevention, rather how to rectify the situation once it occurs, so we pump 11 year old girls full of hormones to prevent pregnancy outbreaks (see below). They can pass the diseases around though, that is 'aight' laws haven't changed much from 1885, we just make believe we are on top of things here while we mock how the other half lives :sunny:.
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Should birth control be given to girls as young as 11?

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) -- After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in this city have decided to allow a school health center to make birth control pills available to girls as young as 11.

King Middle School will become the first middle school in Maine to make a full range of contraception available, including birth control pills and patches. Condoms have been available at King's health center since 2000.

Students need parental permission to access the school's health center. But treatment is confidential under state law, which allows the students to decide whether to inform their parents about the services they receive.

There are no national figures on how many middle schools provide such services. Most middle schoolers range in age from 11 to 13.

"It's very rare that middle schools do this," said Divya Mohan, a spokeswoman for the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care.

Portland's three middle schools reported 17 pregnancies during the last four years, not counting miscarriages or terminated pregnancies that weren't reported to the school nurse.

The Portland School Committee approved the plan, offered by city health officials, on a 7-2 vote Wednesday night. Whether the prescriptions would be offered this school year or next wasn't immediately clear.

King is the only one of the three schools with a health center, primarily because it has more students who get free or reduced-price lunch, said Lisa Belanger, who oversees Portland's student health centers.

Five of the 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.

Committee member Sarah Thompson, also the mother of a King eighth-grader, supported the policy, even though it made her "uncomfortable."

"I know I've done my job as a parent," Thompson said. "(But there) may be a time when she doesn't feel comfortable coming to me ... (and) not all these kids have a strong parental advocate at home."

Chairman John Coyne opposed the change, saying the roles of social agencies and public schools have blurred over the years. "At some point there needs to be a clearing of the gray lines," he said.

The other "no" vote Wednesday night came from Ben Meiklejohn, who said a parental consent form, which allows students to receive any kind of treatment at the school health center, does not clearly define the services being offered.

Some opponents cited religious and health objections.

"We are dealing with children," said Diane Miller, a former school nurse said. "I am just horrified at the suggestion."

Another opponent, Peter Doyle, said he felt the proposal violated the rights of parents and puts students at risk of cancer because of hormones in the pill.

Supporters said a small number of students at King are sexually active, but they need better access to birth control.

"This isn't encouraging kids to have sex. This is about the kids who are engaging in sexually activity," Richard Veilleux said.

At King, birth control prescriptions will be given after a student undergoes a physical exam by a physician or nurse practitioner, Belanger said.

Nationally, about one-fourth of student health centers that serve at least one grade of adolescents 11 and older dispense some form of contraception, said Mohan, whose Washington-based organization represents more than 1,700 school-based centers nationwide.

A high school in Topeka, Kan., stopped providing free condoms to students Wednesday after district officials learned of the month-old program. The district has a policy against providing contraceptives.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/strange/news-article.aspx?storyid=93826
 
Were you referring to my post? I did not mean that STD's are acquired outside of sexual contact in most cases, I meant that the social stigma around them leads people to believe that those who contracted them are all sexually depraved or jump around to various sexual partners, when that isn't always the case at all. Yes, choosing to engage in sexual activity outside of marriage is the problem, I just don't believe that everyone who contracts such a disease are somehow morally bankrupt.

No, I wasn't referring to your post. And I rather agree with you- it is not right to assume that a person is immoral just because they had an STI because some people can and do catch them through other 'innocent' methods.
 
Five of the 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.
Supporters said a small number of students at King are sexually active, but they need better access to birth control.
That hardly sounds like an epidemic.
 
where did my post go? my computer is having indigestion today... hmm

You missed the point of the post dear wilburhum.. rather than highlight the obvious, I'll leave it to the discerning readers..

furtheremore, though I can't even find my post to re-quote--- those were the 'reported' incidents....

ah here it is
Portland's three middle schools reported 17 pregnancies during the last four years, not counting miscarriages or terminated pregnancies that weren't reported to the school nurse.

that is what 11 year olds are busy doing --wink wink!...
Sad part is, I always fancied portland one of those 'upwardly mobile' areas... wonder what it is like in the bronx... that is a rhetorical question of course...

cheers
 
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where did my post go? my computer is having indigestion today... hmm

You missed the point of the post dear wilburhum.. rather than highlight the obvious, I'll leave it to the discerning readers..

furtheremore, though I can't even find my post to re-quote--- those were the 'reported' incidents....

ah here it is


that is what 11 year olds are busy doing --wink wink!...
Sad part is, I always fancied portland one of those 'upwardly mobile' areas... wonder what it is like in the bronx... that is a rhetorical question of course...

cheers

Not that I condone sexual activity among teens, but these are middle schoolers (7th and 8th graders). They are mostly 13 and 14 (with a few 12 year olds). Portland is a very politically "liberal" town (leftist). They don't believe in being "judgmental". I am pretty sure Portland has plenty of poorly-educated folks. They don't all design shoes for Nike or write computer code.

BTW, are you trying to say you are American now? Weren't you English a while back?

Lastly, I have a general question. What, exactly, is the point of this thread?

1) Americans are all valueless, self-indulgent fools who dion't care about their daughters?

2) We need only convert to Islam and all will be well among 300,000,000 people?

3) Thank God for the Atlantic and Pacific. Kids, you see what can happen?
 
Not that I condone sexual activity among teens, but these are middle schoolers (7th and 8th graders). They are mostly 13 and 14 (with a few 12 year olds). Portland is a very politically "liberal" town (leftist). They don't believe in being "judgmental". I am pretty sure Portland has plenty of poorly-educated folks. They don't all design shoes for Nike or write computer code.
I always love it when you teach me something new :shade:

BTW, are you trying to say you are American now? Weren't you English a while back?
I am a citizen of the world.. why does my nationality concern you? living in bloody England for two years hardly makes me English.. just makes me into travel!

Lastly, I have a general question. What, exactly, is the point of this thread?
I don't know.. but as a general rule..it is easy not to partake in threads that don't appeal to you...this isn't afly trap.. you don't have to hover around :coolious:
1) Americans are all valueless, self-indulgent fools who dion't care about their daughters?
I don't know.. are they?

2) We need only convert to Islam and all will be well among 300,000,000 people?
This is an islamic forum.. gasp.. people will be Muslim here and in favor of Islamic values...
3) Thank God for the Atlantic and Pacific. Kids, you see what can happen?

No..I tend to think of you as a toothless demented harpy who likes to comment on every thread...

Ah..I miss Ramadan!


cheerio
 
I can remember several years back something on the news where an 11 year old got pregnant. It caused headline news for quite a few days.

But I'll ignore reality and accept PA's idea that theres hundreds of thousands of naked,pregnant, booze-swilling, drugged up 10 year olds swarming around the west in a wanton cycle of debauchery.

Even if I've lived in the west for 40 years and never seen this dreamworld, i'm sure shes right....because she always is!
 
What yahoo news posted is a fact. US is the highest in STD

Thats a ludicrous statement and Yahoo claims no such thing! It only says a new US (!!) record was broken. Surely you know that in countries like Zimbabwe or Botswana more than 1 in 4 (25%+) adults is infected with HIV! In the US this is figure is 0.6%! Even the Yahoo article shows that less than 1% of the population has chlamydia.

Here are some figures:
http://family.jrank.org/pages/1546/...es-Global-Distribution-Epidemiology-STDs.html

Estimated* worldwide prevalence and incidence of curable STDs # (1999)

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[FONT=Courier New]Prevalence per 1000
North America                        19
Western Europe                       20
North Africa and Middle East         21
Eastern Europe and Central Asia      29
Sub Saharan Africa                  119
South and South East Asia            50
East Asia and Pacific                 7
Australia and New Zealand            27
Latin America and Caribbean          71[/FONT]

This clearly shows that STD prevalence is not particularly high in the US, on the contrary. Note that this statistic is about curable STDs only, so does not include AIDS. It is limited to gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis.
 
Oh btw, here are some graphs from the Centre of Disease Control (the same source as in the yahoo news story, in fact, I think this is the report they are referring too.

Here is a historical overview of STD development in the US:
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/fignatpro.htm
Figure 1. Chlamydia — Rates: Total and by sex: United States, 1987–2006


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Figure 11. Gonorrhea — Rates: United States, 1941–2006 and the Healthy People 2010 target


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Figure 26. Syphilis — Reported cases by stage of infection: United States, 1941–2006

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Figure 39. Chancroid — Reported cases: United States, 1981–2006

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And finally AIDS:
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I can't say they look particularly disturbing. STDs seem well under control (except chlamydia). With most STDs rates are apparently a lot lower than in the good old days when everyone was moral and asexual and such ;). Of course, every case is one too many. Educating about safe-sex seems the best route IMHO! But then, I don't consider sex outside of marriage a sin.
 
Thats a ludicrous statement and Yahoo claims no such thing! It only says a new US (!!) record was broken. Surely you know that in countries like Zimbabwe or Botswana more than 1 in 4 (25%+) adults is infected with HIV! In the US this is figure is 0.6%! Even the Yahoo article shows that less than 1% of the population has chlamydia.

Here are some figures:
http://family.jrank.org/pages/1546/...es-Global-Distribution-Epidemiology-STDs.html

Estimated* worldwide prevalence and incidence of curable STDs # (1999)

Code:
[FONT=Courier New]Prevalence per 1000
North America                        19
Western Europe                       20
North Africa and Middle East         21
Eastern Europe and Central Asia      29
Sub Saharan Africa                  119
South and South East Asia            50
East Asia and Pacific                 7
Australia and New Zealand            27
Latin America and Caribbean          71[/FONT]

This clearly shows that STD prevalence is not particularly high in the US, on the contrary. Note that this statistic is about curable STDs only, so does not include AIDS. It is limited to gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis.


Shhhhhh....don't ruin all the fun.
 
Thats a ludicrous statement and Yahoo claims no such thing! It only says a new US (!!) record was broken. Surely you know that in countries like Zimbabwe or Botswana more than 1 in 4 (25%+) adults is infected with HIV! In the US this is figure is 0.6%! Even the Yahoo article shows that less than 1% of the population has chlamydia.

This clearly shows that STD prevalence is not particularly high in the US, on the contrary. Note that this statistic is about curable STDs only, so does not include AIDS. It is limited to gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis.

Go to the link of the source, the very title of the news is "US sets recordi n sexual disease cases".

I know Africa got more aids/hiv but who is talking about that here?

Its rather amusing that people would go into denial rather then accept the facts and then try to work out a solution to curve the problem. But then again thats the American way, to point fingers at the world and never at themsevles.


More than 1 million cases of chlamydia were reported in the United States last year — the most ever reported for a sexually transmitted disease, federal health officials said Tuesday.

"A new U.S. record," said Dr. John M. Douglas Jr. of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

More bad news: Gonorrhea rates are jumping again after hitting a record low, and an increasing number of cases are caused by a "superbug" version resistant to common antibiotics, federal officials said Tuesday.

Syphilis is rising, too. The rate of congenital syphilis — which can deform or kill babies — rose for the first time in 15 years.
 
What yahoo news posted is a fact. US is the highest in STD

What i stated is also a fact, boys/girls start having sex at age 10 in US.

For a society that over promotes sexuality, it's only natural they would be high on these things.

So rather then calling me hatemonger or naive, accept the reality.

Maybe my understanding of Islamic history is wrong so could you help me out a little bit? I don't remember but how old was Aisha when she was given to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) again?
 
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