Doku Umarov Rebuilds Chechen Resistance

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Right, I even read some Chechen Rebel rag that was nothing but propaganda.

If you have any "Real News" source that backs you, I would love to see it.


as i said earlier i could give you a list of western journalists who have covered the chechen war and seen things as they have happened - if you are serious enough to look into them and read their books/accounts, i will give you their names

and get your head out of your "rebel propaganda" backside since i said western authors - neither russian nor chechen, they dont do propaganda for either side


But not that silly sh** that talks about unknown testing bu Russia that only effects Muslim women.

where have i ever mentioned that? nowhere

so i can only repeat get you head out of your backside and start paying attention, ok?

good lad


What are you on about? I have never said anything about the "Chechen government", I have talked about your Chechen terrorist many times though.

any thread about the chechen goverment- you turn it about beslan which has nothing to do with them - if you wanna talk about that start another thread
 
I understand that Putin is quite popular amongst the Russian people in large part because of his actions against the Chechen rebels. Logically, one would conclude that any Chechen militarism will be countered in much the same way as it has in the past. One really has to wonder if more death is really what Chechnya needs right now.
 
as i said earlier i could give you a list of western journalists who have covered the chechen war and seen things as they have happened - if you are serious enough to look into them and read their books/accounts, i will give you their names
Well? Where are they?

and get your head out of your "rebel propaganda" backside since i said western authors - neither russian nor chechen, they dont do propaganda for either side
Gee, I ask for information and all you have as insults. Why doesn't that surprise me?

where have i ever mentioned that? nowhere

so i can only repeat get you head out of your backside and start paying attention, ok?
Boy, did your mom stop you from having some more Ice Cream?

good lad
Thanks, but you should try too.

any thread about the chechen goverment- you turn it about beslan which has nothing to do with them - if you wanna talk about that start another thread
Again, I have never said anything about the Chechen government. You just keep praising child killers. They aren't the government.
It is good that I got a great nights sleep before facing your pointless misguided rage. You need a "Chill Pill".
 
Well? Where are they?

Vanora Bennett, Tom de Waal, Calotta Gall, Anatol Lievin are some of the authors you can look in to if your serous enough - they've all written books on their experiences in Chechnya - theres more but i cant remember of the top of my head

Gee, I ask for information and all you have as insults. Why doesn't that surprise me?

no, you didnt ask for info, you suggested it was propaganda before even seeing it and bought up some silly story that i have never mentioned - if you act like a fool, you get reated like one

but i was out of order so id like to apologise for that




It is good that I got a great nights sleep before facing your pointless misguided rage. You need a "Chill Pill".


and you need to learn to think before typing - both of us have a long way to go in the learning experience of our internet forum careers :peace:
 
Exactly Wilber read the books that Brother Chechen has given also see if you can locate a book called "small corner of hell, dispatches from Chechnya" By Anna Politkosayava. An excellent and also un-biased account of Chechnya. Until you have done that stop making post that show your absolute ignorance of this issue.
 
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Exactly Wilber read the books that Brother Chechen has given also see if you can locate a book called "small corner of hell, dispatches from Chechnya" By Anna Politkosayava. An excellent and also un-biased account of Chechnya. Until you have done that stop making post that show your absolute ignorance of this issue.
Now why do I want to spend a bunch of money and go hide for endless hours reading about 4 or 5 people’s views of the situation?

I will check on "small corner of hell, dispatches from Chechnya" though.

What I care about is multiple news sources. You soon learn where the bias is.

But if you don't mind, I won't take you brilliant advice about ignoring situations because I don't have full knowledge. Why should I? You don't. It is obvious you keep going on about things where your knowledge level approaches zero.
 
Dokka Umarov is reorganizing and changing some things, like the declaration of the Caucasus Emirate, so we should wait and see the results. Here's the official declaration of the Caucasus Emirate:

In The Name Of Allah The Most Gracious The Most Merciful



Assalamualeikum Wa Rahmatulahi Wa Barakatu,



Praise be to Allah, whom we praise and pray for help and forgiveness. To Him we resort of our souls from the evil and from our bad deeds.

Those put on the right track by Allah will never be mislead by anyone except Him, and those diverted by Him will never be lead properly by anybody.



I testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Mohammad is His slave and His Messenger, may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him



And then:


I appeal to the Mujahideen who are fighting in the Caucasus and the oppressed Muslims of Idel-Ural, Siberia and other parts of the occupied Rusnya (Russia).

I would like to remind the fact that many Muslims are inclined to forget: Russian kafirs (infidels) have occupied our land and swinish life is being imposed on us for a long period of time. This is a punishment of Allah because we have moved away from his right path, because nothing could happen in the world without the will of Allah, praise to Him the Almighty.

Only imagine, how Allah is incensed at us, taking into consideration the fact that he's send this nation on us. The nation, which is considered to be the most contemptible and the poorest among the kafirs.

Our glorious ancestors were waging Jihad against these enemies, and today Allah is testing out generation, as he tested our fathers. Everything is repeating. The Jihad reveals faith and disbelief. Today, as in earlier times, people are divided on Mujahideen, hypocrites, and apostates.

I'm not talking about the native kafirs - it is a naked lie and the dirt in human guise. They are dogs, hell dogs, which Allah hound on Muslims when they depart from their religion.



We, the Mujahideen, went out to fight the infidels not for the sake of fighting but to restore the Shariah of Allah in our land.

Allah says that He does not change the condition of people until they change themselves.

Today, as throughout history, our condition can only be changed with a weapon in hand. If Allah's Religion could be established on Earth using another method, then our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, would not have engaged in twenty seven battles.



There is no power and no power acquiring except through Allah. At the same time Allah tell us to heed our cause and prepare our forces to wage war, as much as we can.

This does not mean that we must have equal means to the kafirs. This is impossible at this time but don't be mistaken, the victory of Muslims will come, inshaAllah, not because of the numbers of warriors or an abundance of weapons; it will come because of our fear of Allah. And fear of Allah comes to a soul and alters behavior when a Muslim is afraid of violating limits of that which is permitted and forbidden as established by Allah.

The most important prohibition is contained in the formula of the faith itself; "La Ilaha Illa Allah".

Repeating these great words is easy and simple, but putting them into practice is not easy and simple. Achieving Paradise is not easy and not simple.



Allah the Most High warns us in the Quran that he will not forgive Shirk (the act of associating partners with Allah) but He may forgive anything other than this, if He wills.

Muslims must be afraid of Shirk always throughout their lives. Therefore, we the Mujahideen, reject any laws, rules and establishments that do not come from Allah.

Jihad against Russian kafirs has never stopped; it was revived sixteen years ago in Chechenistan (Chechnya) when Dzhokhar Dudayev, may Allah have mercy on him, by the will of Allah became the leader of Chechen people. Since then several leaders have served. We ask Allah to bless their Jihad and all brothers who preceded us.



Whatever political slogans were pronounced and whatever words used to describe it, those who went out to fight against Russian kafirs spoke only of Jihad and martyrdom for His sake and each will be awarded according to their intentions, inshaAllah.

Every leader of the Jihad spoke and acted according to his understanding of the religion and the situation. We, inshaAllah, do not condemn or criticize them, but ask Allah to have mercy on us and on them.



By the will of Allah, praise be to Him the Most High, it was my destiny to leader of the Jihad. The Most High knows that I did not want this nor did I seek this responsibility for I never thought that I could carry such burden. But since it was my destiny, I will lead and organize the Jihad according to the understanding given to me by Allah the Almighty.



I announce to all Muslims that I am waging a war against infidels under the banner of "La Ilaha Illa Allah".



This means that as the Amir of Mujahideen in Caucasus I reject everything associated with Taghut. I reject all kafir laws established in the world.

I reject all laws and systems established by infidels in the land of Caucasus.

I reject all names used by infidels to divide Muslims.

I declare ethnic, territorial and colonial zones carrying names of "North-Caucasian republics", "Trans-Caucasian Republics" and other such terms as outlawed.



I am officially declaring of creation of the Caucasus Emirate.

All lands in Caucasus, where Mujahideen who gave bayah (oath) to me wage Jihad, I declare velayats (states) of the Caucasus Emirate including Dagestan, Nokhchiycho (Chechnya), Ghalghaycho (Ingushetia), Iriston (Ossetia), the Nogay steppe and the combined areas of Kabarda, Bulkar and Karachay.



I do not believe it is necessary to draw the borders of the Caucasus Emirate.

Firstly, because Caucasus is occupied by infidels and apostates and it is Dar al-Harb, the territory of war. Our first task is to make the Caucasus Dar al-Islam, establishing the Shariah throughout the land and expelling the infidels.

Secondly, after expelling the infidels we must reclaim all historical lands of Muslims, and these borders are beyond the boundaries of Caucasus.

I foresee objections of all educated and uneducated hypocrites, who will assert that we are establishing an abstract, virtual state. I would like to say, inshaAllah, the Caucasus Emirate is a formation that is more real than all artificial colonial zones existing today.

We will religiously, methodically, step by step introduce and enforce the Shariah order in our land.

The establishment of Shariah is an elevation of Allah's word, and it is the essence of Jihad.



Almighty Allah says in Holy Quran:



"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." (9:111)



We will wage irreconcilable war with anyone who would oppose the establishment of the Shariah, inshaAllah. Let not think those who openly violate the establishments of God, defying Islamic religion, leave it with impunity. This is a serious mistake.



Those who were staying behind and dodging the Jihad have an assortment of arguments. One of them is "democracy" that we previously left intact and did not attach enough importance to due to a misunderstanding. I accept this argument and we reject these names and titles.

It is time to coordinate our intentions, our words and deeds. On that horrible day, when we will stand in front of our Creator, I don't want to be accused when excuses will be looked for. I fear Allah's punishment and therefore will state once more the banner under which we went forth for Jihad.

We went forth for Jihad to establish the Shariah of Allah and we will strive for His sake, and the result is Allah's.

I have said it earlier and repeat again; we are an inseparable part of the Islamic Ummah. I am saddened by the position of those Muslims who declare as their enemies only those kafirs who attacked them directly. And at the same time they seek support and sympathy from other kafirs, forgetting that all infidels are one nation.

Today in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine our brothers are fighting. Those who attack Muslims are our common enemies wherever they are. Our enemy is not Russia only, but also anyone who wages war against Islam and Muslims. They are our enemies because they are enemies of Allah.

Once again I foresee condemnation of this position by the hypocrites and panic among the weak Muslims but not from the firm Muslims. Typical arguments in such cases include that it is a foolish policy, that we will set the whole world against ourselves.

Subhanallah! It is as if the whole world of infidels and apostates is not already waging war against Muslims. In this regard, I would to say to the dissenters that the real and wise policy is that which is based on the Quran and the Sunnah. The foolish policy is based on hollow expectations, incomprehensible fantasies and fear of a visible power.



It is written in Holy Quran in the surrah of al-Imran:



"Men said to them: "A great army is gathering against you": And frightened them: But it (only) increased their Faith: They said: "For us Allah sufficeth, and He is the best disposer of affairs." (3:173)



Allah said: "I'm the one, who my slave considers me to be". If Muslims believe that Allah made them weak, frail, then they are weak. If Muslims believe that Allah made them strong, and believe in his protection and assistance, then they are strong. And we see these signs at every step and in every day.



Therefore, I claim that we, the Mujahideen are a force. And we believe, inshaAllah with our hands Allah will crush and humiliate infidels and apostates.

Our strength in our faith and inf the fear of God.



And I remind the Mujahideen who are fighting for the sake of Allah and on behalf of the oppressed and humiliated Muslims that as Amir of Mujahideen in Caucasus I am the only legitimate power in all territories where there are Mujahideen who gave their oath to me as the leader of Jihad.

All Muslims have an obligation to help Mujahideen in every way they can. Let it be remembered that the kafirs and apostates among the local collaborators are targets for elimination, and not subjects of authority.

I ask Almighty Allah to direct to the path of truth, first of all me, my companions, all Muslims who believe in Allah and his Messenger (pbuh), and in Day of Judgment, which will inevitably occur.


Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!

25 Ramadan 1428

Amir of the Caucasus Emirate,
Dokka Umarov

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2007/11/22/9107.shtml
 
May Allah bless the mujahideen of Sheeshan indeed they are winning.Dokku Umarov is really smart mashallah.May Allah accep them all as shuhaada inshallah.They were honored by everyone and especially Ameer Khattab(RH).
 
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May Allah bless the mujahideen of Sheeshan indeed they are winning.Dokku Umarov is really smart mashallah.May Allah accep them all as shuhaada inshallah.They were honored by everyone and especially Ameer Khattab(RH).
Maybe this is a good place for you to start your Offensive Jihad.
 
Maybe this is a good place for you to start your Offensive Jihad.--wilberhumm

Nah. I was thinking Palestine or Iraq, maybe Afghanistan.
 
Maybe this is a good place for you to start your Offensive Jihad.--wilberhumm

Nah. I was thinking Palestine or Iraq, maybe Afghanistan.

Great. Perhaps you should start packing instead of talking about it on an internet forum.
 
Great. Perhaps you should start packing instead of talking about it on an internet forum.--keltoi

Hahaha. U guys are funny!
 
Do people realy think that the Chechen people after all they have been through, deserve to be free from Russian oppression? Nah i gues not.......what will replace them.......Islam? Oh surely NOT ISLAM....mind you its very itresting to see the progress of Islam the Truth in Russia.
 
Do people realy think that the Chechen people after all they have been through, deserve to be free from Russian oppression? Nah i gues not.......what will replace them.......Islam? Oh surely NOT ISLAM....mind you its very itresting to see the progress of Islam the Truth in Russia.
Why do you think most don't think the Chechen people deserve from Russia?

I don't know of any non pro-Russian that doesn't think so.

I surly do. I just don't back child killers.
 
I still havent read anything concrete or seen anything that puts the stamp on the Chechen Freedom fighters for Beslan.....can you provide something?
 
I still havent read anything concrete or seen anything that puts the stamp on the Chechen Freedom fighters for Beslan.....can you provide something?

Just international news from many sources over a long period of time.

Nothing I can really point you to. Just do searches and see what you see.

Remember there is a lot of bias propaganda out there. From both sides.
 
I have read about from many sources Wilber....but still its like no public inquiry is allowed...no journalist are allowed to investigate it? why?

Anyway lets put that outside....what about the Russian Appartment bombings......i mean if the FSB can do such a thing to their own people...then what else are they capable of.......Beslen maybe. Allah knows best.
 
SATalha,
I don't think the Russian government is above acts such as what happened in Beslen.

But they didn't. The Chechen terrorists did.
 
how about the Pro-Russain Chechens.....could they of carried out the attack...to make it look as if the Islamic Chechen Militants did it? Could that be a possibility.....i mean we all know the deep hate that Ramzan Kadyrov has for the resistance.
 
SATalha,
There is little that is not possible.

But it is becomming obvious that you are not looking for facts, you are looking for excuses.
 

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