Briton faces lashes in Sudan over teddy named Mohammed

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Good thing it wasn't a Porky Pig likeness. Then she would really be in a spot of trouble.

Doesn't one have to be a believer to blaspheme? Seems to me that was part of the problem with Rushdie...he unreverted.
 
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I personally think that its kind of extreme :/

I mean 'Muhammad' is a very popular name, Alhamdulillah, and probaly more so in muslim countries like Sudan so if a class of 7 year olds decide to call their teddy Muhammad, although it might be wrong, its not her fault is it:?
 
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Isn't Muhammad also a name for ordinary people? Maybe the kids just liked that name, I doubt some young Muslim primary school kids intended it as blasphemy. It seems a bit ridiculous to whip somebody over this...
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Teddy bears usually have eyes and as I recall portraying eyes is haraam. Connecting the prophet with haraam things is also haraam, I guess.
 
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I just saw this on the news and found it stupidly funny:zip:, she could either get 6 months in prison or 40 lashes, which is a bit harsh
 
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aadil77 said:
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I just saw this on the news and found it stupidly funny:zip:, she could either get 6 months in prison or 40 lashes, which is a bit harsh
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It is funny in a oddly anachronistic and archaic way....sort of like someone using cow dung and mud for hair gel.
 
fine way to promote foreign teachers going to islamic countries to teach...COME TO OUR COUNTRY AND WE WILL WHIP YOU..watch how many teachers are lost over this..this poor women.
 
chosen said:
fine way to promote foreign teachers going to islamic countries to teach...COME TO OUR COUNTRY AND WE WILL WHIP YOU..watch how many teachers are lost over this..this poor women.
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lol, this is crazy im sure its an innocent mistake. I hope the women is released with no charge, its crazy to think she should be punished. This will be just another example for some haters to percieve islam as an immoral religion.:heated:
 
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lol, this is crazy im sure its an innocent mistake. I hope the women is released with no charge, its crazy to think she should be punished. This will be just another example for some haters to percieve islam as an immoral religion.:heated:
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Sudan isnt an islamic state so its not surprising they come out with some nonsense like this
 
I saw it on the news last nite and think there making a big deal out of it I dont think the teacher is in the wrong or meant to cause offence
 
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Sudan isnt an islamic state so its not surprising they come out with some nonsense like this
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hmmm... not an islamic state, is that because there isnt a radical form of islam trying to fight the evil kuffar there? Last time I checked Sudan was 70% Muslim
 
Like with most things we can only see the side of the issue that is presented to us.

Based on the side shown to us. This action is very extreme and uncalled for. There is no indication that when the "Teddy" was named Muhammad that it was meant to be in reference to the Prophet(PBUH).

If an error was made, it seems the best choice is to correct the error with the most gentle correction feasible. This seems to be an extreme and uncalled for.

I believe the people need to ask themselves: "What would Muhammad(PBUH) have done?"

That is my opinion and is based only upon what I can see. Astragfirullah
 
sudan not a muslim country....this women is being whipped by the authorities as a form of punishment for insulting the islamic prophet..much like the rape victim in saudi arabia geeting 200 lashes for having the nerve to leave her house and associate with someone not related to her...two different "muslim" men I have spoken to told me she asked to be raped and if she would have stayed home like a muslim women should she would have never been raped..but this is comming from two muslim men talking to me, an unrelated women..lol double standards abound..
 
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A British primary school teacher in Sudan is facing 40 lashes and up to six months in prison after allowing her pupils to name a teddy bear after the prophet Mohammed.


Link to full story -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/26/wsudan226.xml

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obviously this is horrible, unchivalrous and quite strange. children should be allowed to play with safe wholesome toys like teddy bears, rather than barbie dolls and computer games and if they wish to name their teddy bears after someone or something that is dear to them then it is all the better. it is important to remember that Sudan is a very economically depressed country, with education and stability problems and the government is oppressive. sometimes the news runs articles like these to provoke discussion or bring larger issues (like the state of Sudan) to our attention. i fear that this is not always the result and that people will use these reports to substantiate wild accusations against groups (africans, muslims or the sudanese themselves) that were not the intended targets.

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the media runs stories like these to what????? The cariest part of all this is not what is happenning to this one women..the scariest most unjust part of this is the fact that this is the one case the media has hilighted..the lord only knows the level of abuses perpetrated on innocent people for doing harmless innocent things such as this...If I were a teacher in any country that has even one islamic extremist in its goverment I would be packing my bags right now....
 
Thanks for the replies. They were along the lines i expected that it is a major overreaction.

My feeling is that it was too and that cooler heads should prevail. I see it as the reaction from a few within the group of parents (I wonder if it was the parents of the 3 kids that didn't vote for the name) and in the government.

My worry is that now its become a political case and I wonder if the people who just want this to be over handle it. Will they get pressure for not being Islamic if nothing is done and how do they deflect that?

Thanks.
 
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the media runs stories like these to what????? The cariest part of all this is not what is happenning to this one women..the scariest most unjust part of this is the fact that this is the one case the media has hilighted..the lord only knows the level of abuses perpetrated on innocent people for doing harmless innocent things such as this...If I were a teacher in any country that has even one islamic extremist in its goverment I would be packing my bags right now....
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You annoy me. *Waits for the tongue lash*.

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hmmm... not an islamic state, is that because there isnt a radical form of islam trying to fight the evil kuffar there?
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Since there isn't a radical form of Islam there "fighting the evil kuffar". I wonder who's fighting the 'Briton' there.

Geee. I think I dislike the Sudanese form of judgement.

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Universal excuse number 2-A.

Is there now or has there ever been an Islamic state?
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This has been explained by the Messenger of Allaah, peace be upon him:

"The Prophethood will last among you for as long as Allah (God) wills, then Allah would take it away. Then it will be (followed by) a Khilafah [caliphate] Rashida (rightly guided) according to the ways of the Prophethood. It will remain for as long as Allah wills, then Allah would take it away. Afterwards there will be a hereditary leadership which will remain for as long as Allah wills, then He will lift it if He wishes. Afterwards, there will be biting oppression, and it will last for as long as Allah wishes, then He will lift it if He wishes. Then there will be a Khilafah Rashida according to the ways of the Prophethood," then he kept silent.

[recorded in Musnad Imam Ahmad (v/273)]


We're under the underlined stage, and all the events before it have occured in our islamic history. Inshaa'Allaah the rest of the prophecy will soon come into effect.


According to the hadith, the prophet (peace be upon him) will be followed by rightly guided caliphs and after those caliphs (Abu Baker, Omar, Uthman and Ali) will come hereditary leadership (the other Caliphs from the Umayyad to the Uthmani) and after that will come tyrannical rule (today) and after that will come a rightly guided caliphs yet again God willing.
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