Italy: Pakistani man sentenced to 30 years in jail for daughter's 'honour killing'

[niler]

am hearing it 4 d first time..HONOUR KILLING
Its sooo sad.. y kill when even islam has not prescribed such a punishment?

 

[AhlaamBella]

If a catholic killed his daughter and buried her with her head facing Rome (or whatever) I'm sure the press would mention he is a catholic.

I'm speaking of normal crimes not psychotic-one-in-a-milion-occurences

 

[jouju]

this has nothin 2do with islam, so y mention religion?

 

[wilberhum]

oh and which culture is that then? ive never heard of it

and do you really want me to start bringing stats on the number of deaths and rape of women in america?
how about the gang violence? the drink culture? or maybe the widespread sexual diseases?

or how about the college massacres? columbine? virginia tech?

god bless america, hey? :rollseyes

Gee, I guess we need your Chechen heros to help us out.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I'm speaking of normal crimes not psychotic-one-in-a-milion-occurences

When a person commits a "normal" crime, the press usually state his nationality and skin colour, not religion. When a muslim Pakistani commits a normal, non-religious crime, he is referred to as a Pakistani not as a muslim.

 

[Malaikah]

Honour killings are not a religious crime! (How a crime can be religious is beyond me...)

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

Sad story and it has nothing to do with Islam, the direction towards Makkah is just a fabrication to sensationalize the article and it's story, the person doesn't even state where this info comes from

imo it's pure nonsense, as if the digger(most likely a non muslim Italian) digging that body knew which direction Makkah was in the first place loool yawn give me a break

regarding the unfortunate incident the girl could have returned to the right path later on in life, i know many brothers who strayed and did worser things than the poor girl yet nobody killed them for the sake of honour (evendo humiliation descended upon the families they hailed from) and today there repenting masha-allah and advising young brothers like me but this Father's end goal was ''pride'' and not serving Allah swt

btw calling one group ''worst representation'' or a ''disgrace'' is sinister and in my opinion stuff like that shouldn't be allowed on this forum, i've seen this on turkish-related topics aswell, it's wrong!

 

[Pygoscelis]

The basic concept of "honor" killing escapes me. Is killing itself not dishonorable?

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

Out of sight is out of Mind( in this case out of the eyes of the community)

there is also a alternative; Banishing a Daughter or Son and cutting all ties

^if a person's pride is to important then i prefer the alternative

 

[Tania]

The basic concept of "honor" killing escapes me. Is killing itself not dishonorable?

We had this too in the past centuries (in France). Until the XVII century when Louis XIV banned them the cheated husband in love could ask the other man to duel (sword or pistol).

 

[Chechnya]

Gee, I guess we need your Chechen heros to help us out

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Only God can help you now :thumbs_up

 

[Malaikah]

The basic concept of "honor" killing escapes me. Is killing itself not dishonorable?

Yeh, exactly. Go figure. :-\

 

[AhlaamBella]

When a person commits a "normal" crime, the press usually state his nationality and skin colour, not religion. When a muslim Pakistani commits a normal, non-religious crime, he is referred to as a Pakistani not as a muslim.

I don't know what news you watch.
Are you saying I'm lying?

 

[wilberhum]

I don't know what news you watch.
Are you saying I'm lying?

What news do you watch? :skeleton:

I seldom, if ever see religion being mentioned if it has no relevance.

 

[cihad]

that guy is dumb...he lets her grow up in a western society and expects her to be "a good muslim" just with the click of his fingers

 

[AhlaamBella]

What news do you watch? :skeleton:

I seldom, if ever see religion being mentioned if it has no relevance.

I watch BBC, channel 4, ITV and sky. Butur not going to believe me because we never seem to agree

 

[wilberhum]

I watch BBC, channel 4, ITV and sky. Butur not going to believe me because we never seem to agree

I go to the BBC Web sight daily.

Would you please let me know when " a 'muslim' person commits a crime, the press makes sure we know his religion" and his religion has nothing to do with the crime?

I have never seen that before.

Thanks in advance
Wilber

 

[Tania]

I go to the BBC Web sight daily.

Would you please let me know when " a 'muslim' person commits a crime, the press makes sure we know his religion" and his religion has nothing to do with the crime?

I have never seen that before.

Thanks in advance
Wilber

We had this type of news in the case of a new religion. I am not sure which one ( i forgot the name) but in this religion its forbidden to accept blood transfusions and in this way 2 childrens died. May be more but i remember only about them and the press blamed the religion and parents ignorance for the tragedy

 

[wilberhum]

We had this type of news in the case of a new religion. I am not sure which one ( i forgot the name) but in this religion its forbidden to accept blood transfusions and in this way 2 childrens died. May be more but i remember only about them and the press blamed the religion and parents ignorance for the tragedy

So religion is the center of the story. Why would you leave it out?

 

[AhlaamBella]

I go to the BBC Web sight daily.

Would you please let me know when " a 'muslim' person commits a crime, the press makes sure we know his religion" and his religion has nothing to do with the crime?

I have never seen that before.

Thanks in advance
Wilber

Last time I checked "sight" as in a web"sight" was spelt "site".

Anyway, I shall inform you immediately as ur the only one on my mind when I watch the news :mmokay: