Lifting of Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

[barney]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Look how Muslims were massacred in Yugoslavia. If Hitler were alive today he would be killed, but the Muslim hitler (Slobodan Milosevich) whose hands are soacked with Muslim blood is leading a comfortable life. This is why we Muslims should boycott their "holocaust memorials" and completely stop commemorating the genocide of non-Muslims until the kuffar stop the genocides against the Muslims first.

Talha. Just before you enter my ignore list as its first ever member, Can you name the force that came to save the muslims from Milosovic in 1999. Who bombed their brothers in religion in order to defeat the Serbs and stop his genocide?

Was it
A) Muslim Nations United in Fraternity
B) International Ummah Support and Protection Force
C) NATO

Clue it was the Christian one in the UK, US and German planes

Sweet mercy. You absolutly stagger me. Your level of blind hatred, the blinkered sopping up of hopeless propaganda, the tinfoil conspiracys.

If you were a Somali receiving food from the Americans after months of famine and hunger, you would spit on the dirty kuffar food to buy bullets to kill the aidworkers.

The christians here are doing their "I'll be your freind" thing as they do. Me, I just hope that one day you wake up on the real world instead of the raving fantasy land that you inhabit.

You have my best wishes and deepest sympathy.

 

[Trumble]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

If Hitler were alive today he would be killed, but the Muslim hitler (Slobodan Milosevich) whose hands are soacked with Muslim blood is leading a comfortable life.

:?

Milosevich died last year, while on trial at the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia for crimes against humanity (including genocide).

At least make some attempt to get your facts right on something...

 

[Muezzin]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

I do wish everybody kept their posts on-topic, and attacked arguments rather than other members.

Many thanks to those who have not posted spam or attacked other members.

 

[MTAFFI]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

I find it terribly sad that the lady who posted this thread specifically requested it not be used for hatemongering purposes but for informational, and yet some are so infuriated by a memorial day for 6 million people who were persecuted and murdered by a blanking mad man that they must turn it into whose persecution is worse. What a pitiful display of ignorance, apathy and many other adjectives that I wont use on this forum in order to not be disabled.

To answer your question though glo, I have absolutely no clue as to why a muslim group would boycott a memorial day comemorizing the death of 6 million people just because they read the Torah. Probably just a typical case of ethnocentricism combined with the thought as so commonly produced on this thread that ones suffering can be worse than anothers, even though all suffering is equally saddening.

 

[Muezzin]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Ya know, I never knew about this boycott to begin with. Which is strange considering I'm a Muslim Brit. I'm not saying there never was a boycott or anything, I'm just saying it's very weird that I never heard of it. Maybe I'm just ill-informed.

Anyway, it's very good this boycott has been lifted. Had I known about it earlier, I would have opposed it then.

 

[MTAFFI]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Ya know, I never knew about this boycott to begin with. Which is strange considering I'm a Muslim Brit. I'm not saying there never was a boycott or anything, I'm just saying it's very weird that I never heard of it. Maybe I'm just ill-informed.

or maybe you are just well informed and luckily didnt get reeled into the same mountain of feces as others :X

 

[glo]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Thank you for your comments, MTAFFI and Muezzin

MTAFFI, I have been around for long enough to know how threads can develop ... especially in the World Affairs section. Hence my early request to avoid aggressive responses.
Evidentally it doesn't always work ...

It brings me back to my earlier thoughts: if we are really and truly honest with ourselves, do we ever consider the suffering of some groups of people more worthy than that of others?
And (for those of us who believe in God), do we believe God considers the suffering of some as more note-worthy than others? And does our religion teach us as such??

Once a year I usually participate in a charitable run for Cancer Research UK - the proceeds go towards cancer research and cancer treatments.
Now, I never stop to think that I would prefer the money to go to the welfare of a specific group of people - say, only women, or white people, or Christians, or Germans ...
The reason I don't is that I believe all human life is equally sacred, all human suffering is equally bad and should equally be tried to be eliminated.

What do others think?

Peace

 

[MTAFFI]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

What do others think?

Peace

I agree with you completely. Any man or woman suffering is equally is saddening as anothers no matter race, religion, gender or otherwise.

But what about war, can the suffering perpetuated by war upon those who choose to fight be categorized with the same line of thought as the people suffering from disease, disorder or accidents? Can you feel sorry for those who fight against your country to kill you and your family while at the same time feel sympathy for the suffering of them or their relatives? I feel this is relative because of the cause of the majority of suffering in the world is due to war. Just as the jews suffered and continue to, the Muslims that continue to and the Christians as well.

While it may sound hardened or callus to some, I do not feel sympathy for those that fight against my country. I can only wish them a quick death and my country an even swifter victory. I feel as though they attacked me first and I know they feel the same about my country, which is generally the cause of war... "You say I did it, I say you did it, well lets fight and finish it". And so it is the pitfall of mankind, the desire to attack one another over money, power, values, religious beliefs, land, political reasons and the list goes on. And that is ultimately what I feel sorry for (as far as war goes), the fact that mankind had evolved so well and yet still cannot settle our differences through dialogue and wit rather than guns and bombs.

 

[Amadeus85]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Holocaust is something unique because it was prepared and made by educated, civilizated and sophisticated nation in the heart of Europe.Mao Ze Dong is responsible for more deaths, Stalin the same, but who knows what hapenned somehwere deep in Asia. We also shouldnt forget that Hitler was actually austrian and austrians played very important role in german army and SS. They were known from their brutality. Suprisingly after the war Austria was told to be a victim of Nazi Germans. Its also worth to add that in the end of the war, in 1945, about 90% of Germans supported Hitler.

 

[Keltoi]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

My guess would be that the boycott was simply some misguided form of "punishment" against Israel. Of course I don't know that, but that would be my first guess.

 

[north_malaysian]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Is your post an argument for Muslims to join in Holocaust Memorial Day - knowing that not just Jews, but people from other groups and faiths (including Muslims) died too?

Yes.

Would a memorial day be more worthy or meaningful, if it remembered 'your own people' rather than 'people from other groups'?

Nope. It would be more meaningful if all religious and ethnic groups to be together on a memorial day... as the crimes committed by Hitler causing the death of 11,000,000 Jews, Christians, Muslims and Atheists.

Talha's posts reflect the thinking I read about in my original article, that the world should remember all genocides, including the ones which happened more recently than WWII.

Yes...

''...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...''

(Koran:5:32)

 

[north_malaysian]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Thank you for your accounts of Muslims saving Jews, Malaysia.

It is always very heartening to hear when people cross the line to help a fellow human being.

Peace

I highlighted about Muslims who saved thousands of Jews during Nazi occupation because I want to show to the Holocaust Denial Muslims that, how come these Muslims saved Jews like crazy if there was no such thing as holocaust?:hmm:

 

[Joe98]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

…..until the kuffar stop the genocides against the Muslims first.


why do majority of americans vote for a government that perpetuates massacred against innocent Muslims.

That’s easy – because no such thing is happening. You made it up.


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[Joe98]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

and because it is not Islamic to give so much importance to a holocaust that happened to non-muslims decades ago

Thank you to for teachng us about Islam. On this forum I have heard many times that in any given event, if no muslims are involved, then muslims don't care about it no matter how horrible it might be.


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[Muezzin]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

Thank you to for teachng us about Islam. On this forum I have heard many times that in any given event, if no muslims are involved, then muslims don't care about it no matter how horrible it might be.


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So you forget the numerous replies, by other Muslims on this forum, to such remarks? You know, the ones saying something along the lines of 'Hey, that's crazy talk! Nobody deserves to die like that, regardless of their religion! It's appalling!'

 

[north_malaysian]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

So you forget the numerous replies, by other Muslims on this forum, to such remarks? You know, the ones saying something along the lines of 'Hey, that's crazy talk! Nobody deserves to die like that, regardless of their religion! It's appalling!'

:thumbs_up

Eid Mubarak!!!

 

[Omar_Mukhtar]

Re: Muslim boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day

I think their boycott has something do with some Zionist organisations using the holocaust as means of justifying the land seizure in Palestine and alikening certain Muslims groups to Hitler's attempts to cleanse the Jews! So I think they boycotted as it would mean people may think they are legitimizing Israel's existence!David Ben Gurion realised this dillema:


“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

 

[Muezzin]

I've changed the thread title to more accurately convey the news story in the first post, and to prevent some hostile nuttiness.

 

[Jayda]

i think it is more important that they lifted the ban than that it was ever in place... it was the right thing to do and we should always applaud right action

 

[Fishman]

People who believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories about Zionists and Freemasons and Crusaders only do so because they have not developed their views properly. It is very convienent to distort the world into a black and white 'goodies and baddies' picture, because it is easy to understand.

The War in Bosnia was an example of the agression of a combination of Nationalism and Christianity against Muslims, which was stopped by a combination of Democracy and Christianity. It is easy to see that Religion divided the people, but it was Nationalism that caused the slaughter. I think Nationalism is one of the most evil forces alive in the world today, one which must be ripped from the people's hearts and minds, and skewered with the very flag which it waves so arrogantly.