Why Christianity is False

[جوري]

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lol!

It appears our troll is flustered with you not taking her bait.

Does this concern you? if you want to address cz don't do it by proxy.. maturate your techniques a bit...one might misunderstand who the 'troll' is when you quote me in the process...
Go take a hike or have a chuckle with the prince of Li on PM from what he has told me, he enjoys a cabal goss . I don't think anyone is interested in your mediocre public exhibition..

 

[Gator]

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[Qingu]

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The blood of all living creatures is composed of 55 percent plasma, which in turn is composed of more than 90 percent water. As opposed to 1400 centuries ago when the Qur'an was first revealed by God, today it is a well known fact that the major "ingredient" in the human body is water (a matter emphasized ONLY in the Qur'an and not in the Bible).

Actually, the Greek philosopher Thalus declared that water was the basis of all things about a thousand years before the Quran was written. The Greeks were well aware that the human body is mostly composed of water.

It is further very well known that mankind is made from "dust" (when you place his body in the grave and leave it for a number of years, and the water evaporates, what form does his body revert to? Further, what is "clay"? Is it not a special form of water and dust?

Whatever you say.

Did you know that the ancient Babylonians also had myths where the gods created man out of clay? (This was before the Bible or the Quran) So according to you, these Babylonians must really have been in communication with gods, because how else would they know the human body is so similar to clay!

I guess we should all start worshipping Lord Marduk, since the Enuma Elish is scientifically accurate by your ridiculously low standards.

 

[Malaikah]

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Did you know that the ancient Babylonians also had myths where the gods created man out of clay? (This was before the Bible or the Quran) So according to you, these Babylonians must really have been in communication with gods, because how else would they know the human body is so similar to clay!

Slow down there. The first human was Adam. He was created from clay. He probably knew he was created from clay, and probably told his off-spring too.

And there where thousands of Prophets who would have known that mankind was created from clay, and presumably the Babylonians might have learned that from them! (or not, but the point is that your assumption that the bible and Quran are the only places people could have learned this is wrong).

 

[جوري]

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Actually, the Greek philosopher Thalus declared that water was the basis of all things about a thousand years before the Quran was written. The Greeks were well aware that the human body is mostly composed of water.
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That is what the Arab of the desert did, incorporated thalus and poetically in Quranic text after translating it of course, a shame prophet Mohammed PBUH went hungry and slept on palm leaves for a man so talented in geology, embryology, physiology, taxonomy, economics, politics, govt, and poetry ..

Did you know that the ancient Babylonians also had myths where the gods created man out of clay? (This was before the Bible or the Quran) So according to you, these Babylonians must really have been in communication with gods, because how else would they know the human body is so similar to clay!

It is no secret that creation from clay is known concept that predates biblical texts...here is carving of Adam and eve at least 3000 year before judaism


only affirming and in concert with the Islamic concept that monotheism was always the one true religion from which people deviated, creating their own gods and idols in the process!

I guess we should all start worshipping Lord Marduk, since the Enuma Elish is scientifically accurate by your ridiculously low standards

I only find atheists of low standards and complete lack of sequential logic!


cheers!

 

[Isambard]

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It is no secret that creation from clay is known concept that predates biblical texts...here is carving of Adam and eve at least 3000 year before judaism


only affirming and in concert with the Islamic concept that monotheism was always the one true religion from which people deviated, creating their own gods and idols in the process!I only find atheists of low standards and complete lack of sequential logic

Actually, it affirms that the Abrahamic tradition is taken from earlier mythology making it false.

Creation, the flood, Cain and Abel. You find this pre-dating the OT in ancient Sumerian texts.

PS. Just wanted to say anyone interesting in some real investigative biblical studies from real scholars (the ones who use logic). I recommend these books

http://www.amazon.com/Bandits-Proph...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198822804&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/New-Testament...=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198822838&sr=1-6

And an excellent debate on the resserection of Jesus
http://www.holycross.edu/departments/crec/website/resurrection-debate-transcript.pdf

 

[BlackMamba]

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The Prophet Muhammad (S) was born in a Saudi Arabia that had no idea about science whatsoever. There were so many false ideas that these arabs believed in at that time. Now do you really think that the Prophet Muhammad S picked and chose which facts he thought were right and which he thought were wrong and put the right ones in the Quran. In 600 Ad in Saudi Arabia I bet there were so many different theories on what humans were made of. Do you really think that Muhammad (S) ascertained the right theory and had enough faith in that choice to put it in the Quran.

 

[جوري]

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Actually, it affirms that the Abrahamic tradition is taken from earlier mythology making it false.

Creation, the flood, Cain and Abel. You find this pre-dating the OT in ancient Sumerian texts.

I don't follow?.. I believe that is what we call an a priori judgment?... That is the truth as you see it, but not as the rest see it.

'Making it false' is an assertion that is a non sequitur, and I don't see its relevance to what preceded it!

cheers

 

[*WhisSPeR...*]

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I wonder why anyone listens to Zakir. Ive listened to a few of his "arguements" and they are incredibly weak.

Whats worse is that he's notorious for twisting the scriptures of other religions to make his points.

Its one thing to make stupid arguements, its another to intentionally lie to make your points.

we listen to his lectures because he speaks the truth. It's not an 'intentionall lie' or any of such you claim.

obviously, what you stated quite explained that you may be cynical. or, from an atheist point of view.:hmm:

 

[Isambard]

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I don't follow?.. I believe that is what we call an a priori judgment?... That is the truth as you see it, but not as the rest see it.

'Making it false' is an assertion that is a non sequitur, and I don't see its relevance to what preceded it!

cheers

You made the assumption

"only affirming and in concert with the Islamic concept that monotheism was always the one true religion from which people deviated, creating their own gods and idols in the process! "

Its simply not true. The stories involved more than one deity. They were very different from the ones in the Qur'an.

Your only 'proof' that they deviated is what the Qur'an says.

So you are using the Qur'an to prove the Qur'an.

This is called circular reasoning and its a no-no

 

[جوري]

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To the mods and pls delete this afterwards
I didn't go through bard's sites to check whether or not they are kosher, I know many think that just because Muslims believe christianity to be disjointed and wrong on many levels that they can go on berating the character of Jesus (p) or any other prophet for that matter (the term 'bandint' is already sounding questionable) I am on allergy pills and completely out of it, lost interest at this hour, thus hope by morning the devils will have gone back to their holes, or are ice skating and things back to normal..

 

[Isambard]

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we listen to his lectures because he speaks the truth. It's not an 'intentionall lie' or any of such you claim.

obviously, what you stated quite explained that you may be cynical. or, from an atheist point of view.:hmm:

What does my aversion to twisting someone elses religious texts to construct an arguement have to do with cynicalism or atheism?

 

[جوري]

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You made the assumption

I didn't assume, I replied to another fool and you decided to hijack it!

"only affirming and in concert with the Islamic concept that monotheism was always the one true religion from which people deviated, creating their own gods and idols in the process! "

true and proven, especially in Arabia, one of the other members here might find you the link as I am too tired to look, but someone can actually bring you the exact name of the individual of whom through his travels, the original Abrahamic observances at the Ka’ba were progressively diluted by the addition of various pagan elements arriving via the caravan routes that led to Mecca. And have no reason to believe it any different for other regions.

Its simply not true. The stories involved more than one deity. They were very different from the ones in the Qur'an.

This is supposed to be news to me? Go browse some history books!

Your only 'proof' that they deviated is what the Qur'an says.

So you are using the Qur'an to prove the Qur'an.

This is called circular reasoning and its a no-no

I don't think I have quoted the Quran once in my replies. Hallucinations again? missed your ziprasidone this evening?


cheers

 

[Isambard]

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To the mods and pls delete this afterwards
I didn't go through bard's sites to check whether or not they are kosher, I know many think that just because Muslims believe christianity to be disjointed and wrong on many levels that they can go on berating the character of Jesus (p) or any other prophet for that matter (the term 'bandint' is already sounding questionable)

And from this I can tell you didnt even bother clicking the link. You get annoyed when ppl wont read your 50pg articles yet you cant be bothered to open a link and read the full title of a book. Nice

 

[جوري]

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And from this I can tell you didnt even bother clicking the link. You get annoyed when ppl wont read your 50pg articles yet you cant be bothered to open a link and read the full title of a book. Nice

I believe I have already admitted that I am not in my full facultative intactness to judge correctly no?
At least I have enough decency to say so instead of arguing from ignorance?!.

cheers!

 

[Isambard]

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I didn't assume, I replied to another fool and you decided to hijack it!

If you postulate something without evidence, its an assumption.

true and proven, especially in Arabic, one of the other members here might find you the link as I am too tired to look, but someone can actually bring you the exact name of the individual of whom through his travels, the original Abrahamic observances at the Ka’ba were progressively diluted by the addition of various pagan elements arriving via the caravan routes that led to Mecca. And have no reason to believe it any different for other regions.

That would be interesting. Then you can show me all the ancient religion scholars who might back you up. O, and by scholars, I mean folks who have written articles that have survived peer review


This is supposed to be news to me? Go browse some history books!

It should be as you are making bogus claims.

I don't think I have quoted the Quran once in my replies. Hallucinations again? missed your ziprasidone this evening?

You are right, how silly of me. Everyone knows every other religious text and history text talks about how everyone used to be a muslim.

 

[Isambard]

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I believe I have already admitted that I am not in my full facultative intactness to judge correctly no?
At least I have enough decency to say so instead of arguing from ignorance?!.

cheers!

You seem to be coherent enough to respond. I didnt know clicking a direct link and reading a title was more demanding.

 

[جوري]

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If you postulate something without evidence, its an assumption.

try applying that logic the next time your write out of your -

That would be interesting. Then you can show me all the ancient religion scholars who might back you up. O, and by scholars, I mean folks who have written articles that have survived peer review

peer reviewed is usually used to connote scientific research. You can't re-write history and have your peers look at it and certify it within standard deviation. Go read any regular history book on acient mesopotamia or sumeria..

It should be as you are making bogus claims.

An adequate assessment of yourself!

You are right, how silly of me. Everyone knows every other religious text and history text talks about how everyone used to be a muslim.

I am sorry what new psycho babble are you ranting about now?
What is upsetting you this evening?


cheers!

 

[جوري]

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You seem to be coherent enough to respond. I didnt know clicking a direct link and reading a title was more demanding.

I am actually not, but I thank you, it is nice to know with 50MG of diohenhydramine in me, a corneal abraision and at 2am in the morning I am found coherent, a compliment even though I know you didn't intend it as one...


cheers and gnight, we'll carry this some other time!

 

[Isambard]

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I am actually not, but I thank you, it is nice to know with 50MG of diohenhydramine in me, a corneal abraision and at 2am in the morning I am found coherent, a compliment even though I know you didn't intend it as one...


cheers and gnight, we'll carry this some other time!

Sweet dreams