Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

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Muslim Woman said:
Salaam/peace;




God is a Trinity....is there any such verse in Bible ?
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There is no verse in the Bible saying that what Adam, Abraham, Moses, David, or Jesus taught was Islam either. Does lack of that term prove to you that they didn't practice Islam?
 
Grace Seeker said:
There is no verse in the Bible saying that what Adam, Abraham, Moses, David, or Jesus taught was Islam either. Does lack of that term prove to you that they didn't practice Islam?
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Islam existed since adam set foot on earth. Islam means submitting to god. And I know as a fact that Adam, abraham, moses, david, jesus peace be upon all of them, taught their followers to submit to god. So yes, all of them taught islam to their people at their time.

:D
 
Omari said:
Islam existed since adam set foot on earth. Islam means submitting to god. And I know as a fact that Adam, abraham, moses, david, jesus peace be upon all of them, taught their followers to submit to god. So yes, all of them taught islam to their people at their time.

:D
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My point being that the absence of the use of the term "Islam" does not led you to believe that Islam didn't exist, likewise the absence of the use of the term "Trinity" is hardly proof that the Trinity does not exist.

Christians don't believe "IN" the Trinity, we believe in God and that God exists "AS" a Trinity. God does appear in the Bible as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit; yet God is still just one.
 
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hola,

the reason i didn't respond to the Trinity stuff was to keep this on topic... there are countless threads about the meaning, importance and foundations of the Holy Trinity in christianity, this thread is asking a specific question about whether Christians and Muslims worship the same God... i provided my answer and would be happy to explain anything as long as it actually relates to my answer. demanding biblical exegesis for the Trinity is not related to my answer, nor the topic.

and as you can see, attempts to discuss this only drove the topic further off course, now we are also talking about whether islam is in the bible.

que Dios te bendiga
 
Jayda said:
and as you can see, attempts to discuss this only drove the topic further off course, now we are also talking about whether islam is in the bible.

que Dios te bendiga
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your right. i should create a new thread, "islam in the bible"
 
Salaam/peace;


Grace Seeker said:
There is no verse in the Bible saying that what Adam, Abraham, Moses, David, or Jesus taught was Islam either. Does lack of that term prove to you that they didn't practice Islam?
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hehehe , nuh :giggling:

to me , Quran is the cretiria as to u is Bible. So , when Quran is telling me that Prophets (pbut ) were Muslims , i don't have to look for proof in Bible .

But as Jesus (p) never uttered the word Trinity in the whole Bible ( from OT to NT ) , if i were a Christian , i m sure , i would have asked myself ---if our salvation depends on Trinity , why no Prophet including my Lord ever pronounced it ??? :confused:


verses we need specially for hereafter

Nay! do you say that Ibrahim and Ismail and Yaqoub and the tribes were Jews or Christians?

Say: Are you better knowing or God?

And who is more unjust than he who conceals a testimony that he has from God? And God is not at all heedless of what you do.

holy Quran , 2.140
 
Muslim Woman said:
to me , Quran is the cretiria as to u is Bible. So , when Quran is telling me that Prophets (pbut ) were Muslims , i don't have to look for proof in Bible .
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Certainly, but you miss my point.

But as Jesus (p) never uttered the word Trinity in the whole Bible ( from OT to NT ) , if i were a Christian , i m sure , i would have asked myself ---if our salvation depends on Trinity , why no Prophet including my Lord ever pronounced it ?
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I truly think I addressed that above in post #64.
 
grace i get ur point. but islam is EVEN mentioned in the bible let alone the Quran...would u like to read verses that ask people to submit (definition of Islam) to the Lord?
 
:sl:to all of my muslim brothers and Sister, hello to all of my Chirstain friends.

Imo Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God, Christians follow Jesus and his father,who have more incommon with the old european pagans gods than The God of the Torah and Quran.

I apologize if this offends anyone.:hiding:
 
Omari said:
grace i get ur point. but islam is EVEN mentioned in the bible let alone the Quran...would u like to read verses that ask people to submit (definition of Islam) to the Lord?
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And by that way of figuring, since there are verses that refer to the Father as God, the Son as God, and the Holy Spirit as God and that there is still just one God it seems obvious that even without the exact term the definition of Trinity is mentioned in the Bible.

By the way, since I try to live a life of submission to the Lord (your definition of Islam) and I truly do, then also by your way of thinking, I must be a Muslim. So, most certainly Christians and Muslims worship the same God for I am both and worship only one God.

If this offends anyone, Nasir has taught me above that all I now need say is:
I apologize if this offends anyone. :hiding:
 
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Nasir666 said:
Thank you? :-[
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Well, I don't think that Christians' worship of God is connected with Eurpoean paganism at all, except to try to convert them from it. Thus, I find the allusion to such to be at least mildly offensive, even though I doubt that you seriously intend it that way.

However, I suspect that in the same way that I am offended at having a faith that is in fact rooted in the worship of Yahweh to be equated with paganism, that you may have felt the same with my own self references by which I ascribed Islam to my worship simply because I understand myself to be seeking to live a life of submission to God, as I'm sure it doesn't really fit your definition. Since you probably see that as shirk, I suspect you might be offended, even though I do not mean it that way. But by my way of thinking if Jesus taught Islam, then I am following it because I am attempting to follow what I understand to have been his teachings. We just disagree with regard to what we believe it was that Jesus taught.
 
Grace, its not "my way of thinking" its the way of thinking. If you think that by such way you are a muslim, then i welcome you to the religion of peace :)

lol
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but honestly we're getting off topic, and I think we should end this discussion right here :). And I would love to debate wether Islam is in the bible or not, if you would make a new thread that is :P.

---peace be with you Grace.

Omari
 
Grace Seeker said:
if Jesus taught Islam, then I am following it because I am attempting to follow what I understand to have been his teachings. We just disagree with regard to what we believe it was that Jesus taught.
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IF jesus taught us to submit to the lord, then in definition and in fact, he was teaching Islam. As far as what he thaught goes, I can say for a fact that a prophet of Allah, or in your belief, a God, would teach anything that is against humanity as a whole. I mean to say the following in no offence, but rather a challenge;
There are many verses in the bible that teach Rape, Hatred and Racism.
And I personaly challenge any person to bring me out ONE verse in the holy quran, one verse translated ACCURATLY, that is against humanity as a whole :)

and if you WANT to follow what Jesus Christ (PBUH) taught, then I suggest you read the Quran, and pay a little more time to researching Islam. :D
 
We're not off topic. The topic is do Muslims and Christians worship the same God.

You claim that Islam is in the Bible, that it is the faith of all the OT prophets and of Jesus. That they all worshipped the same God that Muslims today worship.

And I claim that Christians worship the same God as did Jesus and that he worshipped the same God as all the OT prophets.

Therefore both Muslims and Christians claim to be worshipping the same God as did Jesus and all the OT prophets.

Thus, if the above claims are in fact true, it follows that Muslims and Christians must worship the same God.
 
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Grace, Muslims and Christians and ANYONE who belives that their is only ONE god , THEY ALL WORSHIP the same god :)

The conclusion of the first post I made in this thread was that Muslims and Christians belive in the same god. :)

I am uncertain why certain Muslims brothers choose to argue against that point, NO one can argue against a fact, a fact will remain a fact if it is a fact. And the fact is that Jesus Christ had one god, all the messengers had one god, all the muslims and christians have one god, and thus we all worship the SAME god.

:D

Peace be with you,
Omari
 
Grace Seeker said:
Well, I don't think that Christians' worship of God is connected with Eurpoean paganism at all, except to try to convert them from it. Thus, I find the allusion to such to be at least mildly offensive, even though I doubt that you seriously intend it that way.

However, I suspect that in the same way that I am offended at having a faith that is in fact rooted in the worship of Yahweh to be equated with paganism, that you may have felt the same with my own self references by which I ascribed Islam to my worship simply because I understand myself to be seeking to live a life of submission to God, as I'm sure it doesn't really fit your definition. Since you probably see that as shirk, I suspect you might be offended, even though I do not mean it that way. But by my way of thinking if Jesus taught Islam, then I am following it because I am attempting to follow what I understand to have been his teachings. We just disagree with regard to what we believe it was that Jesus taught.
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Excellent post brother, i have to say i am quite surprised that you didnt take the easy route and bashed my opinion, i understand your point and i am not offended at all. i have few questions about christianity,would be great if you can answer them,do you want me to post them here or just PM you?
 
Nasir666 said:
Excellent post brother, i have to say i am quite surprised that you didnt take the easy route and bashed my opinion, i understand your point and i am not offended at all. i have few questions about christianity,would be great if you can answer them,do you want me to post them here or just PM you?
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PM me if you wish. But sometimes I'm not on for several days at a time. Another place you can post questions about Christianity is this thread, Questions About Christians, Requesting Answers From Christians. One of the mods, Brother Woodrow, started it, and it has been running about a year and a half:
This thread is to be strictly Q&A no validation is being asked why something is believed. It is simply an oppotunity for members of The Christian faith to state what they believe, with no need to explain why. Anyone with questions about Christianity please ask them here. Christians if you feel capable please answer such questions here.

If anyone feels that any question or answer needs to be debated, please start a new thread regarding that. Let us try to keep this thread open for honest Questions and honest answers, with no need to explain.
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