Respected Japanese Politician questions "official" 9-11 explanation

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I am a neo liberal left wing Socialist who believes in many conspiracies. But I am not so gullible to actually believe that the government planned 9/11. That is just wishful thinking and so unrealistic. Had it happened, someone would have come out and said something.

I do not deny that perhaps Bush knew about it. But I know that Bush did not just wake up one day, gather his people, and they ALL agreed to kill thousands of Americans and hurt our economy.. and then not a single person find out about it!

Yeah, we all know that during 9/11 there were unidentified white planes in the air.. Well duh. The air force releases mobile operations center in case something happens to a building. They do not tell others for security. But it is precaution and they do it all the time. And yeah, there have been some other questionable things.. But to go as far to say that our president assigned these people to do this, or perhaps put explosives in the WTC.. That is just a stupid belief. and if one believes that, it shows how gullible and desperate they are for reasons to feel sorry for themselves.
 
Not sure why questioning the official story denotes 'feeling sorry for oneself'
most websites about 911 aren't started by Muslims, go ahead look at 911.org or whatreallyhappened or millions of others..

I suspect sarcasm in lieu of answers would dwindle a little if the official story made some sense so that minds slightly above the mediocre wouldn't be stifled..

cheers
 
Actually I feel pathetic for even participating in a thread like this, but I find it so hard to believe that some people actually buy into this stuff.
 
hmmm5 said:
dude, you are completely right. Such arrogant remarks only shows how pathetic these people are. I have seen people riducule each other on many forums but didn't expect to see it on an Islamic Forum.
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PurestAmbrosia said:
most websites about 911 aren't started by Muslims, go ahead look at 911.org or whatreallyhappened or millions of others..
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So stipulated. We have plenty of kooks of our own. People still write books alleging that FDR knew specifically about the Pearl harbor attack ahead of time...and that was 66 yrs ago.

Prince found one that crawled out from under a Japanese rock. It seems we have come full circle...eh?
 
I don't find you a particularly adept conversationalist.. but I will agree that you enjoy the circituitous route, which ridicules rather than address questions posed by millions.. You should run for office you'd make a great politician!

whatever it is that gets you going, if you think, disgorging a few words on a forum is the way of persuasion so be.. I simply don't want to hear complaints about how Muslims are losing to the mighty US and the mighty Israel, apparently they can bring down your glass house with plastic knives ...

from now on you zip it!

cheers
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
I don't find you a particularly adept conversationalist.. but I will agree that you enjoy the circituitous route, which ridicules rather than address questions posed by millions.. You should run for office you'd make a great politician!

whatever it is that gets you going, if you think, disgorging a few words on a forum is the way of persuasion so be.. I simply don't want to hear complaints about how Muslims are losing to the mighty US and the mighty Israel, apparently they can bring down your glass house with plastic knives ...

from now on you zip it!

cheers
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What exactly are these "questions posed by millions"? The same questions that Popular Mechanics answered a long time ago? Or questions wrapped in conspiracy?
 
http://www.debunking911.com

this site has an answer for just about everyone, every time I post it there is no response and the thread inevitably closes. The WTC was not, in my opinion, the result of some great government scandel, it is the cause of a mans outrage of the injustices that have occured in Palestine and Lebanon and so on. OBL confessed it himself, he has presented the videos of those he employed for the job, this is why these are all theories because the fact is this was a heinous crime perpetrated by a group known as Al-qaeda..You can say "Oh well the US was in bed with them when they were fighting USSR", very true, we shared common interest, and as soon as that was over they turned on the US. Sort of like a fighting dog, you can put him in the pit and let him fight to the death, but dont expect him to come out a lap dog. The subsequent actions thereafter have since only made more dogs, but to deny it and blame it on the US government is a shameless cop out, licked up by those who have a never ending thirst for the combination of wild speculation and government corruption.
 
Keltoi said:
What exactly are these "questions posed by millions"? The same questions that Popular Mechanics answered a long time ago? Or questions wrapped in conspiracy?
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Why do you argue for or against something when you haven't read contents?
http://www.911truth.org/

http://911scholars.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Truth_Movement

http://www.911research.wtc7.net/index.html

http://911review.com/pm/markup/index.html << this last one in particular answers your Popular mechanics


at this stage, you are entitled to believe what you want.. just don't impose it on the rest of us.. this isn't your father's forum!

cheers
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
Why do you argue for or against something when you haven't read contents?
http://www.911truth.org/

http://911scholars.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Truth_Movement

http://www.911research.wtc7.net/index.html

http://911review.com/pm/markup/index.html << this last one in particular answers your Popular mechanics


at this stage, you are entitled to believe what you want.. just don't impose it on the rest of us.. this isn't your father's forum!

cheers
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:D I tried to read most of these but I laughed so hard I think I might have strained something. I found this passage particularly insightful...

Here PM makes a false dichotomy: the planes that crashed into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon were either piloted by the alleged hijackers, or the crashes were of other types of aircraft. The authors avoid the scenario considered the most plausible by most skeptics: the jetliners were taken over by remote control and electronically piloted into the targets.

Taken over by remote control and electronically piloted into the targets? This is your answer to Popular Mechanics? There is no winning with that one...:hiding:

Look, these little websites you've found aren't secret gems of knowledge about what "really" happened on 9-11...they are conspiracy websites. Pure and simple. If you wish to believe them...by all means. However, that says more about you than it does about what really happened on 9-11.
 
Keltoi said:
:D I tried to read most of these but I laughed so hard I think I might have strained something. .
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You ought to go and have that looked at, it could be the death of you?!

What you or the 'connoisseur' think of me, is really of no consequence. I'd worry more about your own state, especially if you are straining yourself to a testicular torsion!


cheers
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
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I suspect sarcasm in lieu of answers would dwindle a little if the official story made some sense so that minds slightly above the mediocre wouldn't be stifled..

cheers
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"official story"??? That is rich. There must have been tens of millions of people who watched the 2nd jet hit the WTC on live TV. I am not a civil engineer but I am pretty sure that a big piece of metal weighing in the neighborhood of 300,000 lbs, filled up with thousands of gallon of jet fuel and traveling at several hundred mph is going to make a BIG dent in a building.

The first site you reference...911truth.org has an update on a Bush/Cheney impeachment on their home page. :laugh:

Here is their first item in the attack on the "official story".

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack - George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield - all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

Let me see if I understand. As part of the planning for this gigantic international conspiracy, the very leaders of the conspiracy planned to feign surprise and perhaps even incompetence as a cover to explain why they didn't act to prevent it. Of course, it would have to be feigned incompetence as they evidently possessed extraordinary intellect and political guile in order to pull off the gigantic conspiracy. Notice also how Richard Clarke appears to be part of it even though he had a big ax to grind with the Bush administration and even though his personal and professional reputation will be permanently damaged by the attack. Evidently they promised him a ranch in Wyoming or something. If I were him I wouldn't stand too close to the edge of the platform when taking the subway or train to work. You never know...it could be dangerous :Evil:
 
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Keltoi said:
My thoughts exactly....
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If the shoe fits.. but don't let that stop you.. we all enjoy fervent fiction..
your posts as well as cogno, have been hilarious and virtually appealing!

cheers
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
If the shoe fits.. but don't let that stop you.. we all enjoy fervent fiction..
your posts as well as cogno, have been hilarious and virtually appealing!

cheers
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It has been quite amusing seeing these old faces coming time after time to parrot the same thing their leaders are throwing to shove down the world's throat. There's the american's version and the real version in everything.

First we had...

Ex-Italian Prime Minister says 9/11 was carried out by CIA and Mossad

and now we have Japanese parliament stating 9-11 done by bin laden is US VERSION and we don't have any evidence, we want to do our own investigation rather then believe their ASSUMPTIONS which have not been proved.

And then you have FBI, which investigates cases on a federal level have a number of things under bin laden profile but did not find any evidence on bin laden and 9-11.

I thought you were innocent until proven guilty in a democratic society?

and yet we have bush and his regime saying bin laden did it, and then they hampered any investigations from being done into the matter.

So in essence, you don't do your own investigations. You don't demand prove and evidence. You believe what we tell you. and we will wage war based on what we believe and we will force the world to believe our story. Like bush said, "you're either with us, or against us"

i guess a few blind followers want to be with the him and keep proving to us even a monkey can have followers :D
 
Supposedly one of the rules of this forum is no conspiracy nonsense...but yet here is an entire thread devoted to it...
 
this isnt a conspiracy, so get your facts straight.....

POLITICIANS ARE SAYING THIS STUFF incase you didnt know, but being the propaganda boy you are you ignore it all.

the conspiracy is the government version you feed us.
 
Somehow I dont get it. How is it possible that muslims radicals (ben Laden and those suicide bombers from Europe) could be in alliance with CIA (The Great Satan isnt it?) And if Osama was really a CIA agent, so how is it possible that he was defended and hided by muslim radicals- talebans from Afghanistan? If he was raeally a CIA agent so why he became a hero for hundreds of muslim extremists from all over the world and Al Quaeda?
 
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