Saudi Arabia bans all things red ahead of Valentine's Day

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I didn't intend to be patronizing. You have your view of things, I have mine.
 
You realize there quite a few christians who say the same about their holidays right?

Redacting history doesnt make you correct.

I don't realize anything. And to the original author of the comment who accused me of not being consistent, it's our believe that Kaabah was built by Abraham. Is it the believe of Christians that that celebration of Valentine Day was once Christian but later hijacked by Pagans and now it's back in their hands. NO!
 
I don't realize anything. And to the original author of the comment who accused me of not being consistent, it's our believe that Kaabah was built by Abraham. Is it the believe of Christians that that celebration of Valentine Day was once Christian but later hijacked by Pagans and now it's back in their hands. NO!

Quite a number of christians ignorethe fact that their holidays were once pagan holidays and say they were always christian.

Muslims and (some) christians redact history to suit your purposes.
 
You do realize that when the Quran warns us of disbelievers it means that we avoid your lifestyle and theology and keep to the ways that Prophet Muahhamd ( pbuh) gave us.We will almost never be as pious and good as the Prophet BUT at least Muslims have the ability to follow what he taught instead of denying it like you. Now, if I had to choose between a Muslim who sins all the time, and an atheist who abstains from sinning, we are obliged to choose the atheist because his actions are better than the Muslims. However, an "good" atheist will never be on par with a true Muslim who follows the lifestyle of the Prophet ( pbuh). Your exaggerated statements are out of context and serve only to humor yourself and convey nothing about reality.

Lordy knows a lifestyle around questioning what is front of me and not simply taking others ppls' word for things is so terrible.

Everyone knows the best approach when dealing with with complicated situation is to close your eyes and do some wishful thinking:blind:

Now did your response have a point or what it merely a jab for not being able rebuttle my earlier comments for the economic reasons why the Saudi gov't is run my monkies? Or that fans are Saudi on this board are hypocrites?
 
I think the Saudi government went way too far to do such. But hey, it is not my government, and if that is what the people want, then props to them!
 
Its so useless what they are doing :D - only amusing others.
 
And just to give an example that you can celebrate it anyway, there was a huge valentines day party in my compound's rec room yesterday.
 
Most people read 1984 for a grim story of oppression loss of individuality.

The Saudis read 1984 for inspiration
 
Most people read 1984 for a grim story of oppression loss of individuality.

The Saudis read 1984 for inspiration


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Funny guy!

Haha!
 
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I don't really see this thread running in any beneficial direction. I can understand why non-Muslims would revile the Muslim rulers, but I will ask the Muslims here to remember that it is not from the Sunnah to revile or insult the Muslim rulers - be they righteous or sinful - especially in public. But rather it is the position of the Scholars to correct them where they have erred.

Ziyaad ibn Kusaib al-Adawiyy said, “I was with Aboo Bakrah (radhiyAllaahu 'anhu) beneath the minbar (pulpit) of Ibn Aamir. He was giving a speech and was wearing a fine garment. So Aboo Bilaal said, ‘Look at our ameer wearing the garment of the disobedient.’ Then Aboo Bakrah said, “Be silent. I heard the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alaihi wasallam) say, ‘Whoever demeans the sultaan (ruler) of Allaah upon the earth Allaah will humiliate him.”
Sunan of at-Tirmidhee, no. 2225

Anas ibn Maalik (radhiyAllaahu 'anhu) said, “The senior amongst the Companions of Allaah’s Messenger (sallAllaahu alaihi wasallam) forbade us (saying), ‘Do not revile your Rulers (Umaraa), not act dishonestly with them, nor hate them and have taqwaa of Allaah and be patient — for verily the matter is close (at hand).”
As-Sunnah of Ibn Abee ‘Aasim, 2/488

Ibn Abee Shaibah (rahimahumullah) said, “Ibn ‘Uyainah narrated to us from Ibraaheem ibn Maisarah from Taawoos who said, ‘The Rulers were mentioned in the presence of Ibn ‘Abbaas and a man amongst them began to censure them. He continued to arrogate himself, standing and stretching out his neck in doing this until I did not see in the House (i.e., the Haram) a man taller than him. Then I heard Ibn ‘Abbaas say, ‘Do not make yourself a trial for a wrongdoing people.’ Then the man constricted himself and I did not see in the House a man shorter than him.”
In his Musannaf, 15/75

Please read this.

Here is the ruling on Valentine's Day:

Ruling on Valentine’s Day by Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen

Question:

In the recent times there has spread the celebrating of Eid ul-Hubb (Valentine’s Day) particularly among the female students. And it is a holiday from the holidays of the Christians, and the clothing will be completely in red garments and shoes, and they exchange red flowers with each other. We hope from your eminence an explanation of the ruling of celebrating the likes of this holiday. What is your advice to Muslims regarding the likes of these affairs, and may Allaah preserve you and protect you?

Answer:

In the Name of Allaah, the Most Merciful, the Giver of Mercy Wa alaykumus-salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

Celebrating the Holiday of Love (i.e. Valentine’s Day) is not permissible for various reasons. The first: That is an innovated holiday that has no basis for it in the Sharee’ah. The second: That it calls to passion and infatuation. The third: That it calls to busying the heart with the likes of these affairs that are trivial and opposed to the guidance of the Righteous Predecessors (As-Salaf us-Saalih), may Allaah be pleased with them. So it is not permissible to introduce on this day (i.e. Valentine’s Day) anything from the aspects of holiday celebrating, regardless of whether it is foods, or drinks, or clothing, or exchanging gifts, or other than that.

It is incumbent upon the Muslim to be distinguished and noble with his religion, and that he not be a characterless person who follows everyone who cries out. I ask Allaah, the Most High, to protect the Muslims from all of the trials, whatever is apparent or hidden of them, and that He guards over us with His care and His aid.

Written by Muhammad Saalih Al-Uthaymeen on 5/11/1420 hijri.

Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-`Uthaymeen
Majmoo’ Rasaa’il wa Fataawaa Ash-Shaikh Muhammad bin Saalih Al-Uthaymeen

http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=830


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