Hamas Cleric Predicts 'Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam'

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Aaron85 said:
This cleric's speech will turn against him,as now more european people will know what's the real goal of muslims in Europe.
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Err. You think the 'real goal' of the majority of Muslims in Europe is the conquest of Rome? :?
 
Aaron85 said:
This cleric's speech will turn against him,as now more european people will know what's the real goal of muslims in Europe.
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notice the bigotry here. when did Hamas ever speak for european Muslims? plz tell me. hamas is a group in PALESTINE, european Muslims are living in EUROPE, two seperate things.

by your logic Muslims also now know the real goal of western kafirs in the Muslim world, since your european countries including poland are taking part in the illegal occupation of both Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as supporting that child of the devil known as israel.

offcourse you will squirm and say no no no we have no such bad intentions in the Muslim world which will only highlight your hypocrisy, and prove your a bigot since you like to make sweeping statements on Muslims in europe when an ARAB LIVING IN THE MID-EAST makes a claim.
 
The_Prince said:
notice the bigotry here. when did Hamas ever speak for european Muslims? plz tell me. hamas is a group in PALESTINE, european Muslims are living in EUROPE, two seperate things.

by your logic Muslims also now know the real goal of western kafirs in the Muslim world, since your european countries including poland are taking part in the illegal occupation of both Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as supporting that child of the devil known as israel.

offcourse you will squirm and say no no no we have no such bad intentions in the Muslim world which will only highlight your hypocrisy, and prove your a bigot since you like to make sweeping statements on Muslims in europe when an ARAB LIVING IN THE MID-EAST makes a claim.
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But aren't all muslims part of the Ummah and fight for a single cause? Isn't that the justification of drawing muslims into Iraq because an attack on one muslim is an attack on all? The West has made no suck claim.
 
Keltoi said:
Conquer Rome? I think Islam needs to worry about itself before it looks ahead to conquering Rome.
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Oh Keltoi, you just don't know the spirit of these people. The west attacked a hornet's nest and they may look confused as they all swarm around, deciding different ways to deal with their state, but that doesn't mean they won't sting! Of course, I'm biased, Rome being a number 1 pain for my country too.
 
Ninth_Scribe said:
Oh Keltoi, you just don't know the spirit of these people. The west attacked a hornet's nest and they may look confused as they all swarm around, deciding different ways to deal with their state, but that doesn't mean they won't sting! Of course, I'm biased, Rome being a number 1 pain for my country too.
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These people? What people are those exactly?

The point was some eventual conquering of Rome by Islam, whether that is meant as willful conversion or forceful. It is a fantasy. That is why I made the statement that Muslims should worry about the state of their own religion and that of its followers. I'm not referring to the doctrine of a religion, but the political systems and overall state of the societies that boast a Muslim majority. In other words, worry about your own house before threatening another...or you may lose both.
 
north_malaysian said:
If I'm not mistaken... Jesus would lead the Muslims in conquering Rome right?
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That would be some delayed payback right there for sticking a Pilum in his side.

I would suggest Anzio Beach as a good launch spot for the attack.
See if the Chinese will lend some of their Amphibious assault stuff for the Syrian and Saudi Tanks.
Dont worry too much about the Eytie army, theyre pants.


Have fun.
 
Ninth_Scribe said:
Oh Keltoi, you just don't know the spirit of these people. The west attacked a hornet's nest and they may look confused as they all swarm around, deciding different ways to deal with their state, but that doesn't mean they won't sting! Of course, I'm biased, Rome being a number 1 pain for my country too.
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It is a psychological thing... not wanting to accept something that is inevitable, even if just a couple of weeks ago --VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Islam has overtaken Roman Catholicism as the biggest single religious denomination in the world...http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL3068682420080330

The man/God with a mother and an alter spirit thing isn't working out for people.. and those left behind would rather burry their head in the sand and throw a tantrum than face the music....

fantasy or not, it is happening as we speak..

peace
 
Likewise Skye, you'll be happy to hear , by 2035 Islam will equal the Church of England in it's numbers of Mosque vs Church attenders in the United Kingdom.

Non-Muslims accross the whole of Europe and indeed America are shunning theism.

Atheism and Agnosticism!-it's the fastest growing theological system in the known universe. Whooh!
 
barney said:
Likewise Skye, you'll be happy to hear , by 2035 Islam will equal the Church of England in it's numbers of Mosque vs Church attenders in the United Kingdom.

Non-Muslims accross the whole of Europe and indeed America are shunning theism.

Atheism and Agnosticism!-it's the fastest growing theological system in the known universe. Whooh!
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There is where you are mistaken oh purple one.. it doesn't matter to me at all one way or the other...

‏لاَ يَضُرُّكُم مَّن ضَلَّ إِذَا اهْتَدَيْتُمْ‏​
(5.105) O you who have attained to faith! It is [but] for your own selves that you are responsible: those who go astray can do you no harm if you [yourselves] are on the right path. Unto God you all must return: and then He will make you [truly] understand all that you were,doing [in life].

--- indeed toward the end of times only atheists will be around couplating like donkeys on the streets living in the complete depravity that they so long for.. but that isn't until the other prophecies are fulfilled...


cheers
 
:rollseyesMeh, I would have thought the Ummah growing in strength and heresy falling would have raised a small twitch of pleasure.
Sorry to dissapoint you, anyway, must dash, theres a she-donkey outside who's giving me the eye.:rollseyes
 
Skye Ephemerine has right in her statement that atheism/agnosticism wont be the leading force this century.Nowadays, with every decade the role of religion in the world is rising.The atheists/agnostics ussually have much less children than the believers.A liberal woman, feminist,supporter of abortion and gay marriages, will much less children than churchgoing,conservative lady from pro-life group.Besides atheism is popular in white upper classes, they make very small percentage of world's population.
 
barney said:
:rollseyesMeh, I would have thought the Ummah growing in strength and heresy falling would have raised a small twitch of pleasure.
Sorry to dissapoint you, anyway, must dash, theres a she-donkey outside who's giving me the eye.:rollseyes
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Growing in number doesn't mean growing in strength.. we get many weirdos I'd rather do without and described by the prophet SAS as the foam on the ocean surface...

When it is the right it is the right time... I'd rather have ten disciplined, noetic, calculating devout Muslims to 50 insanely irresponsible ones...


I didn't know she donkeys mixed with purple reptiles?.. an interesting combo..

cheers


p.s:
Most of the Muslims I have met in my daily life, are 'white' converts and extremely well-educated.. I'd not let me opinion be clouded by the one or two atheists on this forum..
 
Keltoi said:
Conquer Rome? I think Islam needs to worry about itself before it looks ahead to conquering Rome.
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I think the only wrong thing is that we don't carry and worry about our brothers and sisters who are suffering in the colonized countries!
That means that on one side the muslim ummah is growing in the west ,but on the other side it is falling by killing them from the oppressors!:skeleton:

First we must unite under one Nation (THE KHILAFAH),than conquer the other parts of the world!
 
I see Islam as being the dominant force in the world this century.
Christianity is collapsing as seen by emptying pews.
Muslim birth rate is far far higher and once born to muslim parents, there is no leaving or converting.
Its like two buckets. One has a trickle of water going into it and the bottom is full of holes.
One has a gushing flow of water with no holes.
 
barney said:
I see Islam as being the dominant force in the world this century.
Christianity is collapsing as seen by emptying pews.
Muslim birth rate is far far higher and once born to muslim parents, there is no leaving or converting.
Its like two buckets. One has a trickle of water going into it and the bottom is full of holes.
One has a gushing flow of water with no holes.
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In the half of this century, two important things will hapen in muslim world. First, the birth rates will fall drasticly,second the oil will run out. Actually future is misterious,everything changes so fast, we should never say never.
 
Aaron85 said:
In the half of this century, two important things will hapen in muslim world. First, the birth rates will fall drasticly,second the oil will run out. Actually future is misterious,everything changes so fast, we should never say never.
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Yeah, the oil will run out...which will obviously destroy many muslim economys having no other real exports.

But i cant see why the populations would fall?
 
barney said:
Yeah, the oil will run out...which will obviously destroy many muslim economys having no other real exports.

But i cant see why the populations would fall?
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The same reason why it hapenned in Europe.Women education and women working.
 
barney said:
Yeah, the oil will run out...which will obviously destroy many muslim economys having no other real exports.

But i cant see why the populations would fall?
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yep unless all other arab countries start copying dubai
 
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