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Ehhh I know they call god that but, I remember reading about that and supposedly it was the name if a guy like claimin to be God in human form....
They DO believe in one God originally, i know that.
 
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Abu Hurairah (ra) narrated, "The Prophet, peace be upon him, said: ‘There is no prophet between me and him, that is, ‘Isa, peace be upon him. He will descend (to the earth). When you see him, recognize him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill the pig, and abolish the jizyah. Allah will cause to perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Dajjal and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.’" (Abu Dawud)

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Jazzy said:
Ehhh I know they call god that but, I remember reading about that and supposedly it was the name if a guy like claimin to be God in human form....
They DO believe in one God originally, i know that.
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Not Bhagwan. Other Dieties perhaps you've read about.
 
snakelegs said:
jews do not send missionaries - they do not proselytize.
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From what I understand Jews hold that they are "God's chosen people" due to descending from Abraham through Isaac. An evangelizing Jew would be like going down to the street corner and inviting someone to be a part of your natural blood family along with your mother, father, brothers, sisters etc.
 
no, they accept converts - they just don't seek them. jews, like muslims come in all colours.
they are chosen in the sense that god made a covenant with them (i think this is what they mean), not in a racial sense.
 
I would love to see the descendants of the Moors in Spain, Portugal and the Latin World revert back to Islam...peacefully....

It's a sad thing as the Moors didnt force the Christians and Jews to embrace Islam when they ruled the Iberian Peninsula... but were forced to convert when they lost...
 
^^Actually many are, here in the US especially. Latinos/Spanish people make up a lot of the reverts here I think. So I read.
 
north_malaysian said:
I would love to see the descendants of the Moors in Spain, Portugal and the Latin World revert back to Islam...peacefully....

It's a sad thing as the Moors didnt force the Christians and Jews to embrace Islam when they ruled the Iberian Peninsula... but were forced to convert when they lost...
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that's true, but it is really sad? how can you accept a religion if it is forced on you? i know in the case of the jews, those that couldn't leave, faked conversion and continued to live as jews privately. i'm sure many muslims took this option too.
 
snakelegs said:
that's true, but it is really sad? how can you accept a religion if it is forced on you? i know in the case of the jews, those that couldn't leave, faked conversion and continued to live as jews privately. i'm sure many muslims took this option too.
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The crypto-Jews (Christianized Jews which secretly practice Judaism) are known as Marranos right?

I dont know about crypto-Muslims in the Iberian peninsula...

But there are many Spaniard reverts in Granada.
 
snakelegs said:
no, they accept converts - they just don't seek them. jews, like muslims come in all colours.
they are chosen in the sense that god made a covenant with them (i think this is what they mean), not in a racial sense.
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I stand corrected.

According to Wikipedia

From definition of Jew -
The ethnicity and the religion of Judaism, the traditional faith of the Jewish nation, are strongly interrelated, and converts to Judaism are both included and have been absorbed within the Jewish people throughout the millennia.

From definition of Judaism -
Throughout the ages, Judaism has clung to a number of religous principles, the most important of which is the belief in a single, omniscent, omnipotent, benevolent, trnanscendent God, who created the universe and continues to govern it (note that this is also what Muslims believe). According to traditional Jewish belief, the God who created the world established a covenant with the Israelites, and revealed his laws and commandments to Moses on Mount Sinai in the form of both the Written and Oral Torah, and the Jewish people are the descendants of the Israelites. The traditional practice of Judaism revolves around study and the observance of God's laws and commandments as written in the Torah and expounded in the Talmud.


From definition of Israelite
According to the Tanakh, they were divided in twelve tribes, each descending from one of the twelve sons and grandsons of Jacob. Modern Jews share this common descent (see below). The English word Israelite derives from ישראל, referring to the name given to Jacob (Genesis 32:28), which is traditionally translated as he struggles with God. Thus, his descendants are called the People of Israel, or Israelites. The citizens of the modern state of Israel are called Israelis.


My understanding is that a Gentile can never be a descendent of Jacob, but he can adhere to the Judaic Law and practice Judaism. I believe that these "converts" are consdered second class Jews, but again someone may correct me.
 
north_malaysian said:
It's a sad thing as the Moors didnt force the Christians and Jews to embrace Islam when they ruled the Iberian Peninsula... but were forced to convert when they lost...
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They had right to leave to North Africa also.It was a matter of political safety for Spanish Kindgodm i guess.
 
Aaron85 said:
They had right to leave to North Africa also.It was a matter of political safety for Spanish Kindgodm i guess.
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I've heard that there were Muslims who never left Spain.... and were forced to be Catholics...and secretly practice Islam....until they lost contact with Islam decades later...
 
north_malaysian said:
I've heard that there were Muslims who never left Spain.... and were forced to be Catholics...and secretly practice Islam....until they lost contact with Islam decades later...
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Yes, but few I think, because among those who were expelled from Spain in XV,XVI and XVII century were also muslims (and jews) who converted to catholicism but who were seen as uncertain and "muslims in disguise".
 

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