Dinosaurs and Age of the Earth

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Hi!

can anyone help me figure out and give some reference from the quran as to what is it's stand on dinosaurs and the age of the earth. I know there is no explicit mention of it in the quran. but i have a few questions that need to be answered from your whatever perspective you may use.

1. How old is the earth and is it compatible with the results deduced from scientific analysis.
2. what about dinosaurs. Did they exist with Adam or were they died before Adam was created.
3. How old is mankind from the time of Adam?

Thx.
 
Depends on how literalist you are. Creation is similar to that of the bible (6 days etc) however, people see this metaphorically, more as 6 periods.

Dates, are not in the Qur'an, for the Prophets, so as some christians use that method to estimate the Earth as 6000-9000 years, this is not applicable to the Qur'an.

So, their isn't any direct contradiction as say - between Qur'an and the big bang evolution of Earth (unless, you do not accept the more metaphoric meaning of the verses).

The 1 contradiction, I did find, was of a Sahih Muslim - regarding that of the creation, to that of the Big bang theory.

As for dinasaurs, the mainstream view is that it does not contradict Islam.

For your 3., no specific time exists. I don't know about Christianity, but do christians believe in their existing around 125,000 Prophet/messengers since Adam, or not?
 
SixTen said:
Depends on how literalist you are. Creation is similar to that of the bible (6 days etc) however, people see this metaphorically, more as 6 periods.

Dates, are not in the Qur'an, for the Prophets, so as some christians use that method to estimate the Earth as 6000-9000 years, this is not applicable to the Qur'an.

So, their isn't any direct contradiction as say - between Qur'an and the big bang evolution of Earth (unless, you do not accept the more metaphoric meaning of the verses).

The 1 contradiction, I did find, was of a Sahih Muslim - regarding that of the creation, to that of the Big bang theory.

As for dinasaurs, the mainstream view is that it does not contradict Islam.

For your 3., no specific time exists. I don't know about Christianity, but do christians believe in their existing around 125,000 Prophet/messengers since Adam, or not?
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so you say that as far as dinosaurs are concerned it does not contradict Islam. So in what way? Did dinosaurs exist with man.
 
The quran doesnt mention all the other animals on earth, why should it just single dinosaurs out, just because they were huge in size, you should remember humans were huge in size too.
 
nightstar said:
The quran doesnt mention all the other animals on earth, why should it just single dinosaurs out, just because they were huge in size, you should remember humans were huge in size too.
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I am looking for someone who looks at the quran objectively. so from the quranic side what exactly does it have to say about mankind and dinosaurs existing together. did dinosaurs become extinct before the first man. or did they coexist with mankind according to the quran. it is plausible to believe that mankind and dinosaurs coexisted.
 
very few animals/insects etc are mentioned by name, most references to any creatures otherwise is by use of the word 'dawab' 'beasts'


Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the Night and the Day; in the sailing of the ships through the Ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds and the clouds which they trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth, (here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.


He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.

And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), We shall produce from the earth a Beast to (face) them: he will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in our Signs.
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The last one in quote is a sign of the end of the world...
so I am not sure why extinct reptiles would abnegate or sustain a topic about the Quran?..
the universe creation of 6 days isn't marked by our own physical standards of sun rising and setting.. to begin with, in the first two days of creation, the sun wasn't in existence so I don't see how we could look at it by six humanly days?

sura 70 verse four alone tells you that when the angels ascend, it is a day by whose measure is fifty thousand years of our time, and it isn't the only verse of its kind... so in that regard the Quran and the bible differ greately


The angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:


And Allah knows best

peace
 
thx for the info. but i need to know abt what it says about dinosaurs. what according to the quran causes the extinction of these so species or what gives rise to fossils.
 
You don't look in a religion book for causes of extinction.. does your bible tell you why they have gone extinct? fossils are simply carcasses preserved then excavated from the soil etc.. I don't its relevance?...

And He createth that which ye know not. (16:8)

cheers
 
Your way of life is christianity, I would be interested to know what your view is on dinasaurs, in context with christianity.

Personally, people know why dinasaurs were created by God as much as why God decided to create angels or anything!
 
the dodo bird is extinct. why should the quran have to mention that, im just wandering why do you single out dinosaurs, is it because the size of them, or is it that your just interested in them, i agree they are fascinating creatures.

But another person might find another extinct species fascinating , then ask the question what does the holy quran say about them.
 
The holy Quran is fascinating book but only for those who reflect.

There are many scientific and mathematical signs in the Quran But you will not find specific molecular formula or algebraic formula because the holy Quran is a book of signs and not a book of science and even some of my Muslim brothers fail to realize this.

It is a book of guidance a book of warning it is a book through which god is speaking



Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are signs for a people that are wise.
Chapter #2, Verse #164)


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SixTen said:
Depends on how literalist you are. Creation is similar to that of the bible (6 days etc) however, people see this metaphorically, more as 6 periods.

Dates, are not in the Qur'an, for the Prophets, so as some christians use that method to estimate the Earth as 6000-9000 years, this is not applicable to the Qur'an.

So, their isn't any direct contradiction as say - between Qur'an and the big bang evolution of Earth (unless, you do not accept the more metaphoric meaning of the verses).

The 1 contradiction, I did find, was of a Sahih Muslim - regarding that of the creation, to that of the Big bang theory.

As for dinasaurs, the mainstream view is that it does not contradict Islam.

For your 3., no specific time exists. I don't know about Christianity, but do christians believe in their existing around 125,000 Prophet/messengers since Adam, or not?
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Just curious by what you mean metaphorically, the statement can be take as literal according to my understanding since the word has more than one meaning, hence a literal meaning can be taken which differs from meaning in other places.

Metaphorically seems to entertain thoughts that Muslims tend to take it like some Christians take Genesis, i.e. not real, just a poetic type of writing.
 
Al Habeshi said:
Just curious by what you mean metaphorically, the statement can be take as literal according to my understanding since the word has more than one meaning, hence a literal meaning can be taken which differs from meaning in other places.

Metaphorically seems to entertain thoughts that Muslims tend to take it like some Christians take Genesis, i.e. not real, just a poetic type of writing.
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yes the statement should be taken literally since the Arabic the word Youm can mean a day as we know it, or it can mean any stage or period of time.


"Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, and He is firm in power, regulating the affair, there is no intercessor except after His permission; this is Allah, your Lord, therefore serve Him; will you not then mind?"
(chapter 10 verse 3 translation by M H shakir)

in this translation M H shakir translate the word youm as period

Mohammed Habib Shakir, (1866–1939, Cairo) was an Egyptian judge, born in Cairo and a graduate from Al Azhar University.


Allah knows best


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So when did mankind come into existence according to the quran
 
john316 said:
yes but the question is when?
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The exact date isn't known (I don't think it is even mentioned in the Quran for that matter) but from what I remember from Islamic classes, there weren't any dinosaurs on the planet at the time, so it must have been post-jurassic era.
 

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