Both CAN’T be there :-o

[Güven]

I agree ^ but there is also music with Dhikr nasheeds

Anyway Just Leave It, Music Is From Shaitan!
There is nothing Better Than Quran Recitations.:statisfie

 

[al Amaanah]

music with dhikr? thats like saying lets go to that islamic disco? those 2 words dont match. anyways na3am, who wants to listen to music if he has quran, which is from Allah. alhamdulillah.

 

[Güven]

^Alhamdullilah

 

[Ali.]

What I've never really understood is how come there have been 'hadiths' on music, but it is mentioned nowhere in the Qu'ran that it is forbidden? Everything that the Prophet (PBUH) said, or his companions have always got to be mentioned in the Qur'an somewhere...

 

[------]

:salamext:

There is reference to Music in the Qur'aan.

Check out this thread for more information;

http://www.islamicboard.com/fiqh/20238-music-singing-light-quran-sunnah.html

 

[suffiyan007]

:salamext:

Sorry? What do you mean by explanations? Can I ask you your age brother, because you seem like a teenager to me. No offence, by the way.

i am asking for explaination to have clear view.for why we cant love both..i love Quran and i love music... i doesnt mean i not a good muslim.Right.

 

[Ali.]

:salamext:

There is reference to Music in the Qur'aan.

Check out this thread for more information;

http://www.islamicboard.com/fiqh/20238-music-singing-light-quran-sunnah.html

Thanks, still not convinced though.

The first verse showing the prohibition of music (Do you marvel at this statement, and laugh and do not weep, while you amuse yourselves [proudly] in vanities? Rather, prostrate before Allah and worship Him.) could be taken as absolutely anything; from drinking, to lazing around, which all boils down to wasting precious time in general and time management.

The second verse maybe could mean as he tempts us - when people say "I had a voice telling me to do this in my head."

The third verse is not translated correctly. It should be: "And of the people there is he who buyeth for a vain story, that he may lead (others) astray from the path of God without knowledge; and taketh it (the revelation from God) for a mockery; for these shall be a disgracing chastisement."
(That is from my Qur'an)

I also showed this verse to my Father[alhamdullilah] and he said the same thing, i.e. agrees with the translation in my Qur'an (he does speak Arabic), and then I showed my Mother [alhamdullilah](she also speaks Arabic)and she said the same thing.

Insha'Allah I may read the rest later for I have to go now.


If anybody would like to answer me back and finds me amusing then please try to convince me in a nice manner - I'm not saying anybody has or will, but just thought I'd say.

 

[suffiyan007]

i listened to Yusuf islam songs about Allah, and salawat To the NABI saw.
i listened the to sheikh afasy meshari songs and his recites of Quran.....i mean Nasyid/Nasheed. i love hear speakers of Dawah to learn more bout islam... Is nothing Wrong to listened Good Music and Good God words..of reciting quran.....

Even Non-muslim singing and have their records...like Mariah Carey,Celine Dion,and all famous singers and infamous singers are bad.....the songwriters write poems of life,love to God, and etc...have write a lyrics with morality and breathtaking words.....to touch listener Feeling....



We can listened to such music. Songs that can make people careless is prohibited are like metalicca, sepultera,slipknot....and etc.......and
listen to these kind of music meaning is like following satan....in islam i know...
But in other way of thinking,music doesnt mean have to be offend to God...
Music is universal,and Music are like our mood and feelings....we get anger so we listened to rock or metal,we sad we listening to happy funny songs,we in love and we hear love songs...and we on our spiritual time we can listened to Nasheed and etc! Right...folks.

We can do everything,but we can know whats right and wrong....
if can make decision talk to God.he wills help you...right....! music and Quran...are equally OK for me...!

 

[Na7lah]

there's a difference between music and nasheeds if ur listening to nasheeds without music then i guess that's ok but if thy have music then no...

 

[------]

i listened to Yusuf islam songs about Allah, and salawat To the NABI saw.
i listened the to sheikh afasy meshari songs and his recites of Quran.....i mean Nasyid/Nasheed. i love hear speakers of Dawah to learn more bout islam... Is nothing Wrong to listened Good Music and Good God words..of reciting quran.....

Even Non-muslim singing and have their records...like Mariah Carey,Celine Dion,and all famous singers and infamous singers are bad.....the songwriters write poems of life,love to God, and etc...have write a lyrics with morality and breathtaking words.....to touch listener Feeling....



We can listened to such music. Songs that can make people careless is prohibited are like metalicca, sepultera,slipknot....and etc.......and
listen to these kind of music meaning is like following satan....in islam i know...
But in other way of thinking,music doesnt mean have to be offend to God...
Music is universal,and Music are like our mood and feelings....we get anger so we listened to rock or metal,we sad we listening to happy funny songs,we in love and we hear love songs...and we on our spiritual time we can listened to Nasheed and etc! Right...folks.

We can do everything,but we can know whats right and wrong....
if can make decision talk to God.he wills help you...right....! music and Quran...are equally OK for me...!

Bro the Qur'an and Sunnah say Music is haraam. If you don't want to accept that, up to you.

 

[------]

:salamext:

How to pray and prayer rakahs are not mentioned in the Qur'aan either...

 

[suffiyan007]

I agreed. music is Haram... in Quran and hadith....it make people careless...
i accept... but now modern world...music are everywhere right...even you country Anthem patriotic song also a music...Even Cat Stevens (Yusuf islam)is a music icon..he convert to muslim also he still sings and composed song.

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why should Yusuf islam(cat stevens) still making music?

 

[Al-Hanbali]

:salamext:

why should Yusuf islam(cat stevens) still making music?

This does not justify nor make it permissible.

 

[*KB*]

Assalamualaykum

Jazak'Allah Khairan for the reminder. It was short and straight to the point, hits you more hard that way

Assalamualaykum
*KB*
:coolious:

 

[suffiyan007]

Assalamualaykum

Jazak'Allah Khairan for the reminder. It was short and straight to the point, hits you more hard that way

Assalamualaykum
*KB*
:coolious:

u are addressed this to me or someone else?

 

[Na7lah]

i think she's adressing the thread starter

 

[*KB*]

Assalamualaykum

u are addressed this to me or someone else?

The thread starter, Sister -Serene- lol :giggling:

^^Jazak'Allah Khairan

Assalamualaykum
*KB*
:coolious:

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Thanks, still not convinced though.

The first verse showing the prohibition of music (Do you marvel at this statement, and laugh and do not weep, while you amuse yourselves [proudly] in vanities? Rather, prostrate before Allah and worship Him.) could be taken as absolutely anything; from drinking, to lazing around, which all boils down to wasting precious time in general and time management.

The second verse maybe could mean as he tempts us - when people say "I had a voice telling me to do this in my head."

The third verse is not translated correctly. It should be: "And of the people there is he who buyeth for a vain story, that he may lead (others) astray from the path of God without knowledge; and taketh it (the revelation from God) for a mockery; for these shall be a disgracing chastisement."
(That is from my Qur'an)

I also showed this verse to my Father[alhamdullilah] and he said the same thing, i.e. agrees with the translation in my Qur'an (he does speak Arabic), and then I showed my Mother [alhamdullilah](she also speaks Arabic)and she said the same thing.

Insha'Allah I may read the rest later for I have to go now.


If anybody would like to answer me back and finds me amusing then please try to convince me in a nice manner - I'm not saying anybody has or will, but just thought I'd say.

Br Ali,

Good things have good attributes and are surrounded by good people, and evil things have evil attributes and are surrounded by evil people.

On the Day of Qiyaamah, can you tell me on which side music will be? Will music be with the Allaah, His Prophets and Messengers, the Companions, and those who followed them in goodness? Or will music be with Shaytan, the people of evil and immorality, the sinful and transgressors?

If you answer this honestly and sincerely, then I think Akhee, you will get your answer

 

[Ali.]

Just a question that's aside from the subject... why do you think this, bro?

I think this because the Prophet (PBUH)'s role was to deliver and spread a message from Allah from the Qur'an. So I think everything he says has to be in the Qur'an somewhere solidly stated.

Imam Mahdi is not mentioned anywhere explicitly in the Quran, yet muslims still believe that he will be coming near the end times. That's just one example of what's found in hadith, but not in Quran. I'm sure there are many more.

If what you say is true, then books of hadith would serve no purpose. Only the deviant 'Quran-only' muslims believe such things.

I've never thought of that before...

:salamext:

How to pray and prayer rakahs are not mentioned in the Qur'aan either...

Not at all? There is info' on how to perform Wudu though...

Br Ali,

Good things have good attributes and are surrounded by good people, and evil things have evil attributes and are surrounded by evil people.

On the Day of Qiyaamah, can you tell me on which side music will be? Will music be with the Allaah, His Prophets and Messengers, the Companions, and those who followed them in goodness? Or will music be with Shaytan, the people of evil and immorality, the sinful and transgressors?

If you answer this honestly and sincerely, then I think Akhee, you will get your answer

Well I don't even listen to music, I do think it is pretty much a waste of time and I guess I agree that it is somewhat evil. But then we have types of music. Stuff like 50Cent, Akon, Slipknot or whatever; take their music away and your left with a pile of rubbish which they call lyrics. But what about Mozart etc.? How is that bad? Some people even claim that certain types of music (e.g. classical) 'calms them down', and to some extent I guess it can.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Well I don't even listen to music, I do think it is pretty much a waste of time and I guess I agree that it is somewhat evil. But then we have types of music. Stuff like 50Cent, Akon, Slipknot or whatever; take their music away and your left with a pile of rubbish which they call lyrics. But what about Mozart etc.? How is that bad? Some people even claim that certain types of music (e.g. classical) 'calms them down', and to some extent I guess it can.

You avoided the question bro.