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    I hope this hasn't been posted before. I just wondered how many of you know that the decimal number 0.9999...(recurring) actually equals 1.

    Allow me to prove it for you:
    Let
    x = 0.9999...
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.9999...
    Subtract x from both sides:
    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999...
    9x = 9.0000...
    Divide by nine:
    x = 1.0000...
    Anybody want to challenge me on this? Or perhaps somebody would like to post a different proof or counter-proof?

    Last edited by Uthman; 06-17-2008 at 07:28 PM.
    "0.9999..." = 1


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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    I think my math teacher told me bout this...

    i remember it from LI tho....straaange...






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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    woow gr8 mashallah.... who can challenge u
    and i dont no any other proof
    "0.9999..." = 1

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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1



    Hmm, seems interesting!, Barakalahu feek bro
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post


    I hope this hasn't been posted before. I just wondered how many of you know of the fact that the decimal number 0.9999...(recurring) actually equals 1.

    Allow me to prove it for you:
    Let
    x = 0.9999...
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.9999...
    Subtract x from both sides:
    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999...
    9x = 9.0000...
    Divide by nine:
    x = 1.0000...
    Anybody want to challenge me on this? Or perhaps somebody would like to post a different proof or counter-proof?

    Let
    x = 0.9999...
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.9999...
    Subtract x from both sides:

    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999... <-- You subtracted x on one side, and .999 on the other so it doesn't make sense.

    Since 0.3333 + 0.3333 ) 0.3333.. = 0.999..
    and since 0.333.. is 1/3, then 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    Let
    x = 0.9999...
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.9999...
    Subtract x from both sides:

    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999... <-- You subtracted x on one side, and .999 on the other so it doesn't make sense.
    I don't see why it doesn't make sense, since x = .999...
    The same thing is still being subtracted from both sides.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    Since 0.3333 + 0.3333 ) 0.3333.. = 0.999..
    and since 0.333.. is 1/3, then 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1
    Good one! Of course, that's provided that 1/3 does actually equal 0.333....

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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post
    I don't see why it doesn't make sense, since x = .999...
    The same thing is still being subtracted from both sides.



    Good one! Of course, that's provided that 1/3 does actually equal 0.333....

    Regards
    Yes I was totally wrong. 1/3 does equal 0.33333333333333 : ).
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    1/3 does equal 0.33333333333333 : ).
    Why? Because your Maths teacher told you?
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post
    Why? Because your Maths teacher told you?
    No, my trusty calculator
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    No, my trusty calculator
    Oh.

    Sure, but aren't calculators programmed by us not-so trusty humans anyway?
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    New to me.
    &quot;0.9999...&quot; = 1

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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    Assalamu Alaykum

    Me too^

    How about 1 - 0.999999 = 0.000001

    So 1 is not equal to 0.99999

    WaAlaykumus Salaam Warahmatullah!
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post


    I hope this hasn't been posted before. I just wondered how many of you know of the fact that the decimal number 0.9999...(recurring) actually equals 1.

    Allow me to prove it for you:
    Let
    x = 0.9999...
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.9999...
    Subtract x from both sides:
    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999...
    9x = 9.0000...
    Divide by nine:
    x = 1.0000...
    Anybody want to challenge me on this? Or perhaps somebody would like to post a different proof or counter-proof?

    If x = 9, 9x does not = 9. If x = 9, 9x = 81.
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ayoub View Post
    If x = 9, 9x does not = 9. If x = 9, 9x = 81.
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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    The problem is the surrealism of infinity. In the real world where infinity doesn't exist, then in step 3 where you subtract x, there you'll see that the 9.999... always has one decimal less behind the point than 0.9999...
    That way the subtractions can never become 9. So the calculations themself are fine, it's the mathematical axiom of infinity that is dodgy.

    The same happens for 1/3 = 0.333... that only works with an infinite number of factors. In reality it's impossible to calculate with that, so we calculate in approximations (so does your calculator).
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari View Post
    How about 1 - 0.999999 = 0.000001

    So 1 is not equal to 0.99999


    Yes, but remember that the 0.999... is a recurring decimal with an infinite number of nines. For this reason, 1 - 0.9999.... would result in 0.0000000......

    There would be an infinite number of zero's in the answer so there would be no 1 at the end because there is no end!

    &quot;0.9999...&quot; = 1


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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ayoub View Post
    If x = 9, 9x does not = 9. If x = 9, 9x = 81.
    That certainly makes sense, but the argument here is that 0.9999... = 1, where x = 0.99999...

    Nobody claimed that x = 9!

    &quot;0.9999...&quot; = 1


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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    To clarify the previous post, consider the same calculation, only this time with finite numbers instead of infinite numbers:

    x = 0.9999
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.999
    Subtract x from both sides:
    10x - x = 9.999 - 0.9999
    9x = 8.9991
    Divide by nine:
    x = 0.9999
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    Subtract x from both sides:
    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999...
    9x = 9.0000...
    How come 10x - x becomes 9x, when x=0.9999...?
    &quot;0.9999...&quot; = 1



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    Re: "0.9999..." = 1

    format_quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post


    I hope this hasn't been posted before. I just wondered how many of you know of the fact that the decimal number 0.9999...(recurring) actually equals 1.

    Allow me to prove it for you:
    Let
    x = 0.9999...
    Multiply both sides by ten:
    10x = 9.9999...
    Subtract x from both sides:
    10x - x = 9.9999... - 0.9999...
    9x = 9.0000...
    Divide by nine:
    x = 1.0000...
    Anybody want to challenge me on this? Or perhaps somebody would like to post a different proof or counter-proof?

    Who ever showed you that needs to get a good smack in the head.

    I suggest you go to a good math teacher and allow them to properly educate you on the rules of mathematics.


    Your "equation" boils down to ((x * 10) - x)/9 = something

    You've allowed x to be an irrational number, which is fine, but that's where you are having difficulties. Logically speaking, ((x * 10) - x)/9 should equal x again.

    Try .888888888 and see what you get with your logic.

    (0.888888888..... * 10 - 0.888888888..... )/8 = ?
    (8.888888888..... - 0.888888888..... )/8 = What do you think it should be?


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