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    Men and women are different, but complement each other. (OP)


    A lot of political games are being played in the country in which I am residing,
    Looks like they've lost the confidence of the people due to they're kufr and tyranny so are trying to play the old western game and get 50% on board by pretending to get them equal rights, when in reality they are trying to strip them of what respect they have while semi-disrobing them to sell soaps and chocolates,

    Many of us acknowledge differences between men and women while some fall into the rigged game of political correctness and pretend that it's all the same,

    Has anyone noticed how men drive differently and women get cheaper car insurance? how men make risky split second decisions with less regard for established norms, make adjustments quicker in "bending rules/allowances" whether at baggage weight check at the airport, and also are more prone to take bribes? How the family automatically delegates control to the man when on holiday or when the car breaks down?
    Do women like the idea of a man who throws his arms up and looks blankly at the woman when things go wrong?
    how men are attracted to vulnerable rather than macho pant wearing women?
    How boys listen less than girls and are more disrptive and strong headed?

    Is it because men are created for and given the physical tools and strength to take responsibility in overall administration and because they feel the man made box is just a guideline within their control to mold as they see necessary?

    I came across this during my search and it seemed to make sense, (acknowledgement of differences is difficult to find in this brave new world of pol cor


    As a woman and a psychologist who has treated women and couples in the last two decades, I find that as I get older, I make a lot more comments to both male and female patients about how the sexes differ. Let’s take an every day example. A woman complains that her husband or male partner does not listen. Women often complain that a male counterpart wants to provide advice when she talks about a problem. We women can feel unheard in this situation, as we would like our partners to remark on the content of our feelings. Sound familiar?

    When I am talking with patients, I often try to normalize the above example as one way that men and women are different. Although it may be that a couple is not compatible because of difficulties communicating, I am rarely worried about a partnership based on different communication styles. Rather, I try to educate men, women and couples about the differences in perceptions regarding what is ideal communication. Because a man offers advice does not mean that he does not care. A man offering pragmatic sensibilities seems to be evidence that he is listening! When I say this to my women patients, they are often relieved.

    Yet, I find myself sometimes experiencing a curious anxiety when I point out sex and gender differences between women and men. The way men and women listen and talk is just one example. I can get even more anxious when I imply that men process emotions differently and they respond to feelings in a way that can seem foreign to us women.

    This raises the question, are women the same as men? Are we different? And if so, can we live with the idea of difference in a post 1970’s feminist world?

    Talking openly about the biological differences between men and women can be complicated. Louann Brizendine, M.D. wrote a bestselling book in 2006 about the way male and female brains and bodies differ. Whatever readers or reviewers thought about the book, it has been translated into 30 languages and obviously speaks to something we women are concerned about, which is talking about how men and women are different. Of course, socialization and the way we are raised plays an important role, but biology does seem to matter. This may not be news to young women and men, but for women in Brizendine’s generation and my own, such talk can feel like heresy. Brizendine brings this up in the epilogue of her book:

    “There are those who wish there were no differences between men and women. In the 1970’s at the University of California, Berkeley, the buzzword among young women was “mandatory unisex,” which meant that it was politically incorrect even to mention sex difference.”

    Something curious happened along the way for women exposed to feminist beliefs. Those of us in our 40’s and beyond were reared in a time in which we felt we had to deny differences between the sexes. This message had a purpose. We had to justify equal rights and equal pay. Although I can’t say that we have really achieved either, it certainly is better than it has been, at least in the United States. Yet, our current state of external inequality makes it harder to talk about internal and biological differences.*

    Brizendine goes on to say, “The fear of discrimination based on difference runs deep, and for many years assumptions about sex differences went scientifically unexamined for fear that women wouldn’t be able to claim equality with men. But pretending that women and men are the same, while doing a disservice to both men and women, ultimately hurts women. Perpetuating the myth of the male norm means ignoring women’s real, biological differences in severity, susceptibility and treatment of disease. It also ignores the different ways that they process thoughts and therefore perceive what is important.”

    Where does that leave us? Especially as a therapist, I am mindful of not wanting to reduce complaints to differences between the sexes, as we all have our own individual responsibility when it comes to our partnerships. Additionally, I don’t want to bash men. But how did it become the case that talking about biological differences reifies the idea that women are less than equal?

    Just because men and women have different ways of thinking about things does not make women inferior. It would be nice if men and women can both acknowledge the ways we are unique and take a stance that is more understanding. We all have different strengths.

    Trying to understand how men and women communicate, without taking anything personally, can do a lot to help people in heterosexual relationships get along. And it just might be okay to talk about how men are different from us women. In a more equal, understanding and diverse world, we can appreciate differences empathically, not judgmentally. Talking about gender and sex differences might positively influence communication among men and women.
    http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/21...-men-and-women

    The intent of the topic is not for one gender to bash the other, but to acknowledge that we are different and a perceived strength may be a weakness in another field and vice versa, how a perceived female bias may actuly be an inbuilt protection mechanism required for the more localised upbringing of children and loyalty to family etc.
    I know my dad would take out the belt and mum would come and lie for us and even go mad at anyone who complained about us.

    Please heed the request to not turn it into a better than thou contest.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Iceee View Post
    LoL, that's funny.
    Ardianto, even with all he's been through lately, is still good for a story that makes me laugh everyday.
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    Re: Men and women are different, but complement each other.

    format_quote Originally Posted by GodIsAll View Post
    A simple example: If I ask my wife were the personal property tax receipts for our vehicles in 1999, she'll tell me, "Downstairs. Blue desk, left hand drawers, middle drawer. Manila envelope 1/2 to the back." And she will be right. Every time. I try not to ask all the time, but it could take hours for me to find that, if at all. I am glad when I know where my car keys are in the morning.
    Women have good memory. While men?, sorry, I mean me. I can't remember how many times my wife told me "you forget everything, forget everything! if your hand could be removed and replaced you must be forget where you put your hand!"

    Ooh, a memory with my beloved wife.

    format_quote Originally Posted by GodIsAll View Post
    Ardianto, even with all he's been through lately, is still good for a story that makes me laugh everyday.
    That boy was very naughty. Escape from home was his habit, no wonder if his parents had getting bored with it. But his parents didn't worry because he's a boy, like described in first part "They are boys! they can protect themselves! but she is a girl! if something bad happen to her, then how?!".

    By the way, there was a joke among the boys when I was teen

    "When our sister didn't back home on time, our parents were worry. When our parent lost their favorite stuff, they search it everywhere. But when we escape from home, our parent were calm and relax. So, if we want to escape from home, we should bring our parent favorite stuff, then they will search us everywhere"
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    Re: Men and women are different, but complement each other.

    An excellent article.

    By saying that men and women are the same and by not acknowledging the differences between the sexes, what is happening is that women are being turned into men. How else can women be the same as men if not by turning women into men. This is why we now have women doing a lot of things that were once men's work, like even construction work and heavy labor. So when you start making women into men, it basically means that "femaleness" is an inferior thing. To be a woman is inferior. That's not equality with men. That's acknowledging men's superiority and women's inferiority and even uselessness unless she work's like a man, thinks like a man, behaves like a man, etc.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by WRITER View Post
    An excellent article.

    By saying that men and women are the same and by not acknowledging the differences between the sexes, what is happening is that women are being turned into men. How else can women be the same as men if not by turning women into men. This is why we now have women doing a lot of things that were once men's work, like even construction work and heavy labor. So when you start making women into men, it basically means that "femaleness" is an inferior thing. To be a woman is inferior. That's not equality with men. That's acknowledging men's superiority and women's inferiority and even uselessness unless she work's like a man, thinks like a man, behaves like a man, etc.

    I think that it's more equally of opportunity. If my girlfriend wants to work in construction and she can do the job - why shouldn't she?

    I disagree that equality of opportunity leads to the inferiority of women - I think it actually promotes the opposite. You hear similar things said about the feminisation of men - a man staying home with the baby whilst his wife works, for example. I don't think that's true either. Again, if my girlfriend's job was better paid than mine, why wouldn't we choose for me to stay home? It wouldn't make me less "manly" or her less "womanly".

    Obviously practically, many jobs may be unsuitable for one sex or the other, but it should be on a case-by-case basis as to whether an individual is suitable for the work. The days of "womens' work" or "mens' work" are, hopefully, over.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by observer View Post
    I think that it's more equally of opportunity. If my girlfriend wants to work in construction and she can do the job - why shouldn't she?
    There are women in my place who work in construction projects, but not as construction worker who put the bricks to on the wall. Those women are working in other division like design or project administration.

    Every woman must be have feminine nature although the level of feminine nature may different between one woman and another woman. The feminine nature make women in my place avoid job that too masculine except if they have no other choice.

    Excuse me, are you sure your girlfriend would work as construction worker if she has other choices?

    I disagree that equality of opportunity leads to the inferiority of women - I think it actually promotes the opposite. You hear similar things said about the feminisation of men - a man staying home with the baby whilst his wife works, for example. I don't think that's true either. Again, if my girlfriend's job was better paid than mine, why wouldn't we choose for me to stay home? It wouldn't make me less "manly" or her less "womanly".
    Wow, wow, if you live in my place you would be laughed if you choose to stay at home just because your partner is paid better.

    There are husbands in my place who have salaries lower than their wives, but they still work and not stay at home and live with the wives money.

    Yes, this is related to manliness value.

    Obviously practically, many jobs may be unsuitable for one sex or the other, but it should be on a case-by-case basis as to whether an individual is suitable for the work. The days of "womens' work" or "mens' work" are, hopefully, over.
    I have enough much experiences in looking for employees for my companies or the company where I was working. I've ever opened job opportunities with clasification "for man or woman". However, there are some consideration that made me also opened job opportunities that for man only or woman only. It's because I knew the difference between men on women. So I tried to "put the right person in the right place"
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    Re: Men and women are different, but complement each other.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Excuse me, are you sure your girlfriend would work as construction worker if she has other choices?
    Well, my girlfriend doesn't want to work in construction, but if she did - why shouldn't she?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Wow, wow, if you live in my place you would be laughed if you choose to stay at home just because your partner is paid better.

    There are husbands in my place who have salaries lower than their wives, but they still work and not stay at home and live with the wives money.

    Yes, this is related to manliness value.
    Where I live we don't measure masculinity like this. It's fine for a man to stay at home with the kids if he wants, I don't see that as "unmanly" at all.
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    No body ever said why the man has to support the family while the woman should not even if she has money.
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    The ideal spouse that you should focus on is the one that when you look at that person you have no trouble in saying MashAllah, SubhanAllah, and inshAllah, but hopefully not Astagfirullah. Sister's check this out.
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    Few weeks ago I was sitting in a food stall when a woman came. I saw there's no empty chair. Then I stood with intention to give my chair to her. But just I stood, and before I invite her to sit, a man suddenly sat on the chair that I left. So, I stood and she was standing too. Because this man, who didn't know how to respect a woman.



    Men and women are different. All men know it. But unfortunately not every man know how to treat women in proper way, as a woman.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by insann View Post
    No body ever said why the man has to support the family while the woman should not even if she has money.
    Allah gives you freedom of choice. You don't have to do anything. You can have a pre nuptial agreement to anything you please. If your future wife is rich, a bulk of it can be transferred into the husbands account so the man supports the family. It would make no sense for a man to toil all day for a pittance to support a rich wife.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Independent View Post
    Yes - so on what grounds would any secular state intervene to prevent any individual or group of individuals from entering a particular profession? Why should women be prevented from taking any job, if they proved themselves good enough to get the offer in the first place? Why should the state decide instead of the employer, who surely knows his/her own business best?

    Physical jobs are in decline in the west (because of automation and the decline of heavy industry) so strength is less and less of an issue every year. It has turned out that women are at least as good as men in a whole range of jobs from which they were formerly discouraged or even barred. Why should the state make that judgement rather than the individual employer?

    As an individual, I want complete equality of access to every profession - but I don't look for favouritism. I don't expect that some groups (eg women) should be removed from the competition altogether, just to make life easier for me. I also don't expect that any group, whether men or women, should be given unfair advantage over me. If I look for equality for myself, I have to be prepared to give it back to everyone else.

    Whatever I achieve, I want to achieve by my own abilities, not because the opposition was artificially eliminated.
    The main reason employers throughout the ages didn't like to employ women was because they got pregnant or if they didn't get pregnant they got period pain. Lets face it, you would rather employ a bullock to pull the load than a cow. Generally a females prime directive is to have babies the males is to provide for the family and to defend the family. The Soviets really pushed for equality, have you seen a Russian woman? Some of them can pick up a horse!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by observer View Post
    Well, my girlfriend doesn't want to work in construction, but if she did - why shouldn't she?



    Where I live we don't measure masculinity like this. It's fine for a man to stay at home with the kids if he wants, I don't see that as "unmanly" at all.
    Yeah some African cultures are like that. The women do all the work and the men just hang around chatting, but the men will defend the village and give the women some stick if they don't get their chores done. Sounds good to me LOL.
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    Re: Men and women are different, but complement each other.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Yeah some African cultures are like that.
    Like the Akha Tribe of northern Thailand where the women do the work and the men sit round and smoke opium . .
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