Smokefree Cars Legislation, 1 October 2015 (UK)

**BeTheChange** · 09-21-2015

Brief overview

From 1 October 2015, private vehicles in England and Wales must be smokefree if they are enclosed, there is more than one person present and one of them is under 18.

It will be an offence:

 for a person of any age to smoke in a private vehicle carrying someone under 18
 for a driver (including a provisional driver) not to stop someone smoking in these circumstances
Penalties

The fixed penalty notice fine for both offences is £50. Somebody who commits both offences could get two fines. Private vehicles must be carrying more than one person to be smokefree so somebody who is 17 and smoking alone in a private vehicle won’t be committing an offence.

What is ‘an enclosed vehicle’?

The legislation covers any private vehicle enclosed wholly or partly by a roof. A convertible car, or coupe, with the roof completely down and stowed is not enclosed and so isn’t covered by the legislation. But a vehicle with a sunroof open is still enclosed and so is covered by the legislation. Sitting in the open doorway of an enclosed vehicle is covered by the legislation. The rules apply to motorhomes, campervans and caravans when they are being used as a vehicle but don’t apply when they are being used as accommodation.

The rules don’t apply to:

 boats, ships and aircraft as they have their own rules
 work vehicles and public transport already which are covered by smokefree legislation

Definition

The definition of smoking is set out in Section 1(2) of the Health Act 2006:

(a) “smoking” refers to smoking tobacco or anything which contains tobacco, or smoking
any other substance

It follows therefore that smoking includes the use of cigarettes, cigars and pipes, including waterpipes (shisha) as well as the use of herbal substances.

Enforcement

Enforcement of the new law will largely be by police officers who already monitor for a number of other offences committed in moving vehicles, such as the wearing of seat belts, and use of child safety seats and mobile phones. Officers will use their discretion to decide whether to issue a warning or a fixed penalty notice, or whether to refer an offence to court. Local authority enforcement officers will also support securing compliance with the legislation.

Why are the regulations needed?

Children are particularly vulnerable to secondhand smoke; they have smaller lungs, faster breathing and less developed immune systems, which make them more susceptible to respiratory and ear infections triggered by passive smoking.v This new law is not designed to turn smokers into criminals, but it is about protecting children from the avoidable dangers that tobacco smoke presents to their health and well-being.

Smoking near children can cause a range of respiratory illnesses such as asthma, bronchitis and reduced lung function. Passive smoking results in more than 165,000 new episodes of disease of all types among children, 300,000 primary care consultations, 9,500 hospital admissions and around 40 sudden infant deaths each year.

**Karl** · 09-24-2015

Originally Posted by Abz2000

i believe that the legislation saves children from being forced by other people to consume tobacco and marijuana smoke, and that it is a God given right of children within the word and spirit of Quran and Sunnah of Allah's final Messenger pbuh and cannot remove the lawful God given rights of a parent since there's no ambiguity in the legislation whatsoever.
criminalizing murder of children within the wombs or drowning them in a bathtub has nothing do with removing the autonomy of the individual, we must check to ensure that it falls within the guidance and pleasure of Allah and that it doesn't contradict Allah's guidance or bring on His wrath.

certain medicines also have "keep out of the reach of children" written on the label, such an act doesn't contradict the Quran and Sunnah but rather enforces them.

Originally Posted by Abz2000

i can perceive that Karl is indignant and disagrees with the idea criminal kafir governments trying to manipulate or tell people how to act.
we must at the same time keep in mind that children are a trust from Allah and that we must bring them up according to the guidance of Allah, and if a piece of legislatiin fits within the guidance of Allah and pleases Him, we should embrace it wholeheartedly because we are obeying the Creator and ruler of the heavens and the earth.

there are many instances where the messenger of God pbuh legislated regarding the duties of parents to children and we must pay heed to such commands if we are to be successful.
be merciful to them,
start them praying casually at seven years and discipline them until they pray at ten years.
he pbuh also admonished a mother who used to regularly beat the crap out of her son because she feared that the kid might otherwise become soft, he didn't say: do what you like at home, he told us to do what Allah likes.
he pbuh would also give good examples by holding them in his lap whilst praying and even shortening the prayer when he heard children crying.
surely you would have a duty to intervene and protect if you saw a child about to be ritually sacrificed, remember the fact that Allah miraculously sent a ram to Prophet Ibrahim pbuh and made zamzam gush forth?

let us accept the sincere, truthful and good advice of each other in a good manner, remember, Abu Hurairah was told to recite ayat al kursi by shaytaan

Under 18 is not a child, a child is a pre pubescent. And riding in a car is more dangerous than some tobacco smoke, also the UK is polluted with umpteen vehicles and factories. This "what about the children law" is designed to undermine more parental rights and to get them used to further oppression. In time people under the age of 18 will be institutionalized and "educated" as the State will say it is for the protection of "children". Will you support that? Of course anyone going against this will be labelled an "extremist" and enemy of the State. If you have any intelligence you will see the signs and connect the dots and I believe you do. Others that go along with these malicious laws I can only assume that they are shills of the Anti Christ State.

**Karl** · 09-24-2015

Originally Posted by ardianto

I don't know if you are smoker or nonsmoker, Karl.

If you were smoker, ...... as Muslim you perform fasting in Ramadan, don't you?. It spend long hours, more than 13 hours. Then why couldn't you stop smoking for one or few hours when you were in car?.

And if you were nonsmoker, then what's your problem if government bans smoking in car?.

No I don't smoke. I hate the government interfering into peoples private lives. Would you have a problem with the government banning people over six feet tall? Or would you say "that's fine as I am shorter"?