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    There are many ahadeeths that say that Prophet Mohammad (saw) had split the moon (Sahih Bukhari #830, #832, #208, #209, #210, #211, #387 etc..)


    Many non-Muslims say that if the moon was split by Prophet Mohammad (saw) then the whole world would've witnessed this great event but there is no evidence to suggest this. What should I say? The Qur'aan also confirms this miracle:

    اقْتَرَبَتِ السَّاعَةُ وَانشَقَّ الْقَمَرُ

    The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.

    Jazak Allah

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    format_quote Originally Posted by proudmuslim View Post
    One of the greatest and most renowned mujizas(miracles) of Muhammad (sallallahu alyhi wasallam) was the splitting of the moon into two. This mujiza never fell to the lot of any other Prophet. When Muhammad (sallallahu alyhi wasallam) was fifty-two years old, the leaders of the disbelievers from the Quraish came up to him and said, "If you are a prophet, split the moon into two parts." Muhammad (sallallahu alyhi wasallam) dearly wanted everybody, especially his relatives and his friends, to covert to Islam. He prayed raising up his hands. Allahu ta'ala accepted his prayers and split the moon into two parts. Each half of the moon was seen above different mountains. The disbelievers said, "Muhammad performed magic for us." So they did not become Muslims.Here is the sign today, check image:
    http://www.answering-christianity.co...n_12202006.jpg
    Do you have a source for that picture, i.e. who or what took it, and what lunar geographical feature it's of?
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    Re: splitting of the moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Encolpius View Post
    Do you have a source for that picture, i.e. who or what took it, and what lunar geographical feature it's of?
    this pic can be seen on this website
    another source

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    Re: splitting of the moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Encolpius View Post
    Do you have a source for that picture, i.e. who or what took it, and what lunar geographical feature it's of?
    One of those 'miracles' that I suspect is best left as a faith issue. If the Qur'an says the moon was split, and you are a muslim, you will believe it was split. If you are not, there no significant evidence that it actually happened. The photo shows the Ariadaeus Rille, which as the article says is one of several such features, all with differing orientations. It is some 300km long.. the moon is over ten times that distance in diameter; in other words if the NASA photo had included one end or the other of the rille you wouldn't be seeing it on Islamic websites!

    What I find strangest about this particular 'miracle' is that it just doesn't seem to fit in with anything else. Mohammed is otherwise shown to be a 'regular guy' (compared with the Christian conception of Jesus) who was only different because he was chosen to receive God's revelation. Then you have this 'miracle' which, if it occurred, makes healing lepers, raising the dead and such look like cheap parlour tricks. It makes no sense.
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    Re: SubhanAllah - Miracle of the Splitting Moon video

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis View Post


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    Re: Split Moon


    To add another link (I didn't see it posted) here's the official page on NASA about the moon indentation
    Explanation: What could cause a long indentation on the Moon?
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    Re: Split Moon

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    Re: Split Moon

    Aslamu Alaikum Brothers/Sisters
    This Moon Split even is mentioned in Great Wall of china where people witnessed it.
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Farhan1 View Post
    Aslamu Alaikum Brothers/Sisters
    This Moon Split even is mentioned in Great Wall of china where people witnessed it.
    Masha'allah

    Alhamdulillah

    ALLAHU AKBAR!

    Here are are few threads related to Moon Splitting


    http://www.islamicboard.com/general/...st-masjid.html

    http://www.islamicboard.com/general/...splitting.html
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    Re: The scientific miracles of the Quran.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine View Post
    The Moon had split into two distinct parts in front of their very eyes. The two parts had separated and receded so much apart from each other that to the on-lookers (in Makkah) one part had appeared on one side of the mountain and the other on the other side of it. Then, in an instant the two had rejoined.
    The splitting of the moon has been mentioned in the Quran and hadiths. However, you mention "in an instant the two had rejoined". Is it mentioned in the Quran or the hadiths specifically that the split moon "rejoined in an instant"?
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    Re: Split Moon

    It is important to know that there are 2, yes TWO implications of this verse. One is the splitting of the moon with the Prophet )pbuh) and this other one is probably even more explicit as it provides a modern day renewal of this verse with the lunar landing.

    http://www.---------------/miracle/moon.html


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    Re: Split Moon

    To help illustrate Trumble's point I found another image of this feature.
    moon a32 - Split Moon
    from [This Website]

    Slightly above and to the right of the image centre you can see the rille in question. These occur in many places on the surface of the moon and in different directions.
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    Re: Split Moon

    circumferential 'riles' are caused by a circumferential disturbance...

    the same way burns leave scars.. souvenirs of what happened once upon a time!
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by `Abd al-Azeez View Post


    There are many ahadeeths that say that Prophet Mohammad (saw) had split the moon (Sahih Bukhari #830, #832, #208, #209, #210, #211, #387 etc..)


    Many non-Muslims say that if the moon was split by Prophet Mohammad (saw) then the whole world would've witnessed this great event but there is no evidence to suggest this. What should I say? The Qur'aan also confirms this miracle:

    اقْتَرَبَتِ السَّاعَةُ وَانشَقَّ الْقَمَرُ

    The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.

    Jazak Allah

    :ws:
    Asalaamualaikum

    Just a quick note. Apparantly recently scientists studied the core of the moon and found rock patterns that they said could ONLY be there if the moon had once been SPLIT!!!. There is a short documentary about this somewhere on YouTube (I think). Even more amazing a non-Muslim was hearing about this event from another person i.e. moon splitting and then later went home and watched a documentary about it on TV and was shocked about this rock formation/idea of the moon having been split once - it matched what he heard - and he accepted Islam!.
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by S1aveofA11ah View Post
    Asalaamualaikum

    Just a quick note. Apparantly recently scientists studied the core of the moon and found rock patterns that they said could ONLY be there if the moon had once been SPLIT!!!. There is a short documentary about this somewhere on YouTube (I think). Even more amazing a non-Muslim was hearing about this event from another person i.e. moon splitting and then later went home and watched a documentary about it on TV and was shocked about this rock formation/idea of the moon having been split once - it matched what he heard - and he accepted Islam!.
    Something a bit more specific than 'a friend of a friend saw something' might be helpful in this case.
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine View Post
    circumferential 'riles' are caused by a circumferential disturbance...

    the same way burns leave scars.. souvenirs of what happened once upon a time!
    Seeing that riles have different directions several moon splittings must have happened in the past.
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    Seeing that riles have different directions several moon splittings must have happened in the past.
    we have documentation of just one.. I haven't seen but one concentric rile.. but if you say so.. then sure why not.. your hypothesis are as good as the next guy!

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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine View Post
    we have documentation of just one.. I haven't seen but one concentric rile.. but if you say so.. then sure why not.. your hypothesis are as good as the next guy!

    cheers
    Of course there are others, some even longer.
    sirsalis 2006 04 12 small 1 - Split Moon
    This one for instance is Rimae Sirsalis, its straight and also longer.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimae_Sirsalis
    If you read the article, you'll find out this one is much more peculiar than the Rima Ariadaeus. Perhaps Muslim apologist ought to start using this one.
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    Of course there are others, some even longer.
    sirsalis 2006 04 12 small 1 - Split Moon
    This one for instance is Rimae Sirsalis, its straight and also longer.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimae_Sirsalis
    If you read the article, you'll find out this one is much more peculiar than the Rima Ariadaeus. Perhaps Muslim apologist ought to start using this one.
    Did the 'Muslim apologists' choose the rima sirsalis over the more 'peculiar' rima aridaus for the conventional representation of that event?

    I have stated a few pages back that Islam isn't requiring a proof of a miracle for support to its constitution or establishment, further Ansar also tells you a few pages back that, this miracle which by definition an event out of the ordinary manifesting a supernatural act of a divine agent was meant for folks of querysh, who not unlike you have rebuffed it aside though were an actual eye witness to it:

    IN THE NAME OF GOD, THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE DISPENSER OF GRACE:

    THE LAST HOUR AND MOON SPLIT ASUNDER

    (1) THE LAST HOUR draws near, and the moon is split asunder! [Most of the commentators see in this verse a reference to a phenomenon said to have been witnessed by several of the Prophet’s contemporaries. As described in a number of reports going back to some Companions, the moon appeared one night as if split into two distinct parts. While there is no reason to doubt the subjective veracity of these reports, it is possible that what actually happened was an unusual kind of partial lunar eclipse, which produced an equally unusual optical illusion. But whatever the nature of that phenomenon, it is practically certain that the above Quran-verse does not refer to it but, rather, to a future event: namely, to what will happen when the Last Hour approaches. (The Quran frequently employs the past tense to denote the future, and particularly so in passages which speak of the coming of the Last Hour and of Resurrection Day; this use of the past tense is meant to stress the certainty of the happening to which the verb relates.) Thus, Raghib regards it as fully justifiable to interpret the phrase inshaqqa l-qamar (“the moon is split asunder”) as bearing on the cosmic cataclysm - the end of the world as we know it - that will occur before the coming of Resurrection Day (see art. shaqq in the Mufradat). As mentioned by Zamakhshari, this interpretation has the support of some of the earlier com*mentators; and it is, to my mind, particularly convincing in view of the juxtaposition, in the above Quran-verse, of the moon’s “splitting asunder” and the approach of the Last Hour. (In this connection we must bear in mind the fact that none of the Quranic allusions to the “nearness” of the Last Hour and the Day of Resurrection is based on the human concept of “time”.)] (2) But if they [who reject all thought of the Last Hour] were to see a sign [of its approach], they would turn aside and say, “An ever-recurring delusion!” - (3) for they are bent on giving it the lie,* being always wont to follow their own desires. [*Lit., “they have given [it] the lie”: an allusion to the prediction of the Last Hour and the Day of Resurrection. The use of the past tense indicates conscious intent or determination (cf. 2: 6). For my rendering of sihr as “delusion”, see 74: 24.] Yet everything reveals its truth in the end. [Lit., “everything is settled in its [own] being”: i.e., everything has an intrinsic reality (haqiqah) of its own, and is bound to reveal that reality either in this world or in the next (Baghawi, on the authority of Al-Kalbi); hence, everything must have a purpose or “goal” of its own (Zamakhshari). These two - mutually complementary - interpretations reflect the repeated Quranic statement that everything that exists or happens has a meaning and a purpose: cf. 3: 191, 10: 5 and 38: 27 (particularly, see note on 10: 5). In the present context, the phrase relates both to the truth referred to in the preceding verses and to its rejection by those who are “wont to follow [but] their own desires”. (4) And withal, there has come unto them many a tiding that should have restrained [their arrogance]: [Lit., “in which there was a restraint”: i.e., many an indication, in observable nature, of God’s creative and re-creative power, as well as many a tiding, through God-inspired prophets, of a continuation of life after bodily death and, therefore, of the fact that a person’s attitudes and doings in this world must have definite consequences in the life to come.] (5) far-reaching wisdom [was held out to them]: but [since] all warnings have been of no avail, (6) turn thou away from them. On the Day when the Summoning Voice will sum*mon [man] unto something that the mind cannot conceive, [Lit., “something not known (nukur)” - that is, “something that human beings cannot know [i.e., visualize] because they have never met with anything like it” (Zamakhshari).] (7) they will come forth from their graves, with their eyes downcast, [swarming about] like locusts scattered [by the wind], (8) running in con*fusion towards the Summoning Voice; [and] those who [now] deny the truth will exclaim, “Calamitous is this Day!”
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    Re: Split Moon

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine View Post
    Did the 'Muslim apologists' choose the rima sirsalis over the more 'peculiar' rima aridaus for the conventional representation of that event?
    I'm guessing they chose the first straight line on the moon they could find.
    What I'm sying is that the Sisraslis rille is longer, as well as more interesting, its formation isn't exactly clear, some even say impossible... so the Sirsalis rille would be a cooler piece of evidence, if nothign else.
    I have stated a few pages back that Islam isn't requiring a proof of a miracle for support to its constitution or establishment
    Yet there are many websites claiming the rille is a proof of the splitting of the moon. Then there's what Slave of Allah claims to have seen and plent of other stuff.
    Some people just like "proving" their claims or beliefs.
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    Re: Split Moon

    if you want a modern day renewal of it, like I said earlier, it refers to the exact moment the lunar shuttle left the moon.

    EXACT TIME 54:1

    The moon has split or separated into two parts refers ALSO to the tons of moon rock they brought back to earth.

    The shuttle left witht he rocks at exactly 54:1
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