There are many ahadeeths that say that Prophet Mohammad (saw) had split the moon (Sahih Bukhari #830, #832, #208, #209, #210, #211, #387 etc..)
Many non-Muslims say that if the moon was split by Prophet Mohammad (saw) then the whole world would've witnessed this great event but there is no evidence to suggest this. What should I say? The Qur'aan also confirms this miracle:
اقْتَرَبَتِ السَّاعَةُ وَانشَقَّ الْقَمَرُ
The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.
I'm guessing they chose the first straight line on the moon they could find.
The line should be concentric not straight no? I don't believe anyone here has put a name on it!
What I'm sying is that the Sisraslis rille is longer, as well as more interesting, its formation isn't exactly clear, some even say impossible... so the Sirsalis rille would be a cooler piece of evidence, if nothign else.
Ok!
Yet there are many websites claiming the rille is a proof of the splitting of the moon. Then there's what Slave of Allah claims to have seen and plent of other stuff.
Some people just like "proving" their claims or beliefs.
so? Muslims have offered an explanation for such grooves.. which you don't like or perhaps have a better one ..
cheers
Last edited by جوري; 08-15-2008 at 12:14 AM.
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Dear Skye Ephémérine, That Mohammad split the moon is written in the Quran and Hadiths. But was its rejoining also explicitly written? Or are we taking it as obvious because we see only one moon today?
"If you have two loaves of bread, sell one to buy hyacinths, for they will feed your soul." Mohammad
Most Muslims don't understand the verse that says :
"The Jews said : 'Uzayr is the son of God"
We are speaking about only a group of Jews.
This is the tafsir of Ibn Taymiyya.
The same could be said about worshping the golden at the time of Moses... it was not the entire people of Israel that whorshipped him... since Moses did not worship him.
To return to the main subjet, im asking you 2 things :
Why do you believe in Moses?
Second, the Moon split occur, and this is nearly a fact. You know why? Because we can easily prove that the surah was read during the time of the prophet. So, during his life, he claimed at his ennemies that "you have seen the moon split and you say that this is magic". If it was false, then this claim would have been a sufficient proof that Muhammad is a liar. It is exaclty as if Moses came in front of Pharaoh and told him "Didn't you see me do all thoses miracles? Admit it, you saw me do so and so, don't you fear God? Won't you let the son of Israel go freely?" BEFORE he did any miracle.
Pharaoh would have been "Ok guys, plz, put this crazy guy in jail or get rid of him."
Secondly, that would be a problem if everyone on the globe had seen the moon split. You know why? Because they would all say : "This is our god who did that". Hence, the prophet Muhammad would just be one other guy claiming that his god did so. So that would not be a miracle. That would just be like saying "it is my god who sent water from the sky", which is not a proof that Allah is the only god. Someone else could claim that Zeus do that.
Finally, about your comment that we believe that people will eternaly all go in hell-fire :
You know that there is abolutely no-one on earth now that follows the so-called 7 law of Moses.
We (muslims) are the only monotheistic religion, and we don't follow the seven law since Jihad is part of our religion. So we kill, and Muslims and Jews fought a lot during history. Maimonid was saying, according to wikipedia, that Muhamaad did an error by "creating" Islam because it caused a lot of problem to the jews.
So there is absolutely no one on earth following theses laws. So please, tell me, what will happen to everyone except you (the jews)? What about Hitler and Staline? Can you quote your Torah about this issue? Thank you very much.
PS : Sorry for mistakes, my English is not perfect.
nor does it verifies jews did.
as I replied before: "circulated in Islamic believes"
you committing circular reasoning.
Nope, you just don't understand.
If it was a lie, he would have been unconvered since everyone can verify this claim. Anyone would just be like "Is there any jew saying that? No? Then he lies.
And it is not because it comes from Muslim sources that it is false.
Anyway, we absolutely don't need a proof. I don't have to proove that a group of Jews say that. It has absolutely no importance.
Jazak'Allah for the informative video & post. Reading through everybody's hypotheses was also interesting, continuous debate back & forth..back and forth.
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