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    AIDS: A Punishment From Allah (OP)


    Ashshahadu an la illa ha il Allahu
    Wa Ashshahadu ana Muhammadan abduhu wa rasuluh

    Auzubillahi min ash-shaitani ar-rajeem
    Bismillahi ar-Rahmani ar-Rahmeen

    In the name of Allah, The Gracious, the Merciful

    We grant them their pleasure for a little while: in the end shall We drive them to a chastisement unrelenting. (31:24)

    The AIDS epidemic is spreading throughout the world. Though it may seem to a be a "third world" disease, even modern Western countries like the United States of America are not immune from it. It is without a doubt a lethal and painful punishment for those who are afflicted with it. For Muslims, it is a Sign of Allah's Anger toward people who have abandoned His commandments and expectations of chastity, and who have dirtied themselves in unlawful sexual relations. It is also a fulfilment of a prophecy made by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alaihi wa salam):

    It never happens that permissiveness overwhelms a people to the extent that they display their acts of sex shamelessly and they are not uniquely punished by God. Among them, invariably, pestilence is made to spread and such other diseases, the like of which have never been witnessed by their forefathers. (Ibn Majah; Kitab-ul-Fitan)

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

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    ^^ Learn to read people comeon! Sheesh.
    AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    who gets AIDS?
    people of every age, race, religion and sexual orientation.
    gays get it.
    straight men get it and give it to their wives.
    babies are being born with it.
    blood transfusions are a cause.
    drug addiction is a cause (dirty needles)
    and poverty is a cause (in many poor countries, needles are re-used in clinics).
    how can anyone be so arrogant as to claim to know that this is a punishment from Allah? :enough!:
    AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    who gets AIDS?
    people of every age, race, religion and sexual orientation.
    gays get it.
    straight men get it and give it to their wives.
    babies are being born with it.
    blood transfusions are a cause.
    drug addiction is a cause (dirty needles)
    and poverty is a cause (in many poor countries, needles are re-used in clinics).
    how can anyone be so arrogant as to claim to know that this is a punishment from Allah? :enough!:
    Where did aids originate? From Africa :X

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by England View Post
    Where did aids originate? From Africa :X
    Yes, from Africa. There are several theories for the “first cause” but I don’t think any have be proven.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah


    Perhaps aids is not a punishmet but a reminder from Allah.
    AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by England View Post
    Where did aids originate? From Africa :X
    Why is its place of origin relevant? It's killing God's children. It doesn't matter where it comes from, it's bad and it's gotta go.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Count DeSheep View Post
    Why is its place of origin relevant? It's killing God's children. It doesn't matter where it comes from, it's bad and it's gotta go.
    It is called knowledge. Knowledge is a good thing.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Count DeSheep View Post
    Why is its place of origin relevant? It's killing God's children. It doesn't matter where it comes from, it's bad and it's gotta go.

    God doesn't have children otherwise He would need a spouse, which would mean He has an associate, which would mean there are two Gods. If there were two God's, one may decide to have one law whereas another may want another. Both may disagree, which may lead to argument, which may lead to fighting and the whole universe would be in chaos. At the end, one would have to lose, hence he would be weaker and therefore not God.

    We're all God's creation and His servants - yes. God only does what befits His Majesty.



    But that's a totally different topic.


    Regards.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    It is called knowledge. Knowledge is a good thing.
    I interpreted England's post as being suggestive of something.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    We are God's creations but he looks at us as his children. It's not literal. He is our Father and I don't believe we are servants.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Count DeSheep View Post
    I interpreted England's post as being suggestive of something.
    lol suggestive of what?

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    God doesn't have children otherwise He would need a spouse, which would mean He has an associate, which would mean there are two Gods.
    1. God doesn't need anything or anyone to do as He wishes. Just because we humans need a partner in order to reproduce doesn't mean He does.

    2. I said we are His children because we are His creations. I did not intend to imply that He created us through the way we bring new life into the world. My apologies.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    Hmm even I figured thats what u meant. Thought it was obvious :X
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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by England View Post
    lol suggestive of what?
    Perhaps I was wrong. Or perhaps you are playing innocent. Both are equally probable.

    format_quote Originally Posted by England View Post
    He is our Father and I don't believe we are servants.
    Eh. To each his own, then. I see humankind as the children of God, but more importantly as servants of God. We exist to fulfill His wishes in whatever way we can.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    No worries countdesheep.


    It's just that having a child is giving birth to one, otherwise it's not really a child is it? It's simply a creation. Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon them) was born without a father, the same way Adam was created without a father or mother. And Adam was the creation of God, the same way Jesus son of Mary was. We are all God's servants and we obey God because we are dependant upon Him, and to Him is the final return where we will be judged on all that we did in this world.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    No worries countdesheep.
    Not even gunna give me a little space in my name? You're so hurtful...

    It's just that having a child is giving birth to one, otherwise it's not really a child is it?
    Any foster parent would disagree, I'm sure.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    And I keep getting posts deleted because they are "Off Topic".

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Count DeSheep View Post
    Not even gunna give me a little space in my name? You're so hurtful...

    Sorry! lol


    Any foster parent would disagree, I'm sure.

    No, i meant that any child is given birth to. Yes a foster child is even given birth to.



    Regards.

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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    And I keep getting posts deleted because they are "Off Topic".
    Ssshhh!!! You'll ruin it for all of us! I mean, um...:X

    But we are kinda on topic, I think. But it's still, Mr. Super Moderator's decision. Are we straying too far off topic? >.<
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    Re: AIDS: A Punishment From Allah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    No, i meant that any child is given birth to. Yes a foster child is even given birth to.
    You must stop thinking of things like birth as being so static! Just because we do things one way doesn't mean it's totally impossible to do it another. Even if it was impossible, God could still do it. That's why He's...Himself.


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