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Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

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    Hii All,

    Islam is a logical religion base on logic and its fundamental is a way of life nicely suit for human. Allah us created with intelligence and power of reasonings, analyzing, thinking, cognitive skills...a grey matter....
    This made a great difference our dignity is far from other being...

    This means that we Muslims should understand the reason why we should prohibited from drinking alcohol and abstained from eating pork. Its a simple logical reason.

    Why should we deny? When its HARAM, its HARAM...:blind:

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    Salamualikum.

    Allaah says NO then NO... there's no need to ask WHY when Allaah says NO!

    We have to follow Allaah's commandments

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)



    format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous View Post
    Hii All,

    Islam is a logical religion base on logic and its fundamental is a way of life nicely suit for human. Allah us created with intelligence and power of reasonings, analyzing, thinking, cognitive skills...a grey matter....
    This made a great difference our dignity is far from other being...

    This means that we Muslims should understand the reason why we should prohibited from drinking alcohol and abstained from eating pork. Its a simple logical reason.

    Why should we deny? When its HARAM, its HARAM...:blind:
    The same Reasoning is what restricts some human from accepting it.

    they take it in this way :

    why should i follow them.

    how different does it signify from other concepts happening around the world


    Thus their level of understanding the core creamy layer of those teachings is very very less.

    That's the reason


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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal View Post
    Salamualikum.

    Allaah says NO then NO... there's no need to ask WHY when Allaah says NO!

    We have to follow Allaah's commandments
    Thank you for confirming my statement...Allah is All knowing and Graceful...
    Its up to us, to be knowledgeable.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    yeah absolutely rite
    Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    "O Muslims! If anyone among you worshipped Ramadan, then know that Ramadan is dead. But those of you who worshipped Allah, then know that Allah lives and will never die. Indeed Allah created Ramadan and He also, in truth, created Shawaal, Dhul Qidah, Dhul Hijjah, and all the rest of the Months..."

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    There is no need of logics and reasoning in the religion. We have a blind faith in Islam. Logics and arguments are the worries of those, who are in doubt or having second opinion about faith

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    format_quote Originally Posted by ahsan28 View Post
    There is no need of logics and reasoning in the religion. We have a blind faith in Islam. Logics and arguments are the worries of those, who are in doubt or having second opinion about faith
    Thank you..Islam is not a religion of blind faith. It is a religion of logic and the ways to achieve peace and progress..Allah created us the highest rank and it depends on us to represent ourselves to HIM. He created us with brains for us to think, explore and learn to be knowledgeable and well equipped...that is why Islam taught us to find knowledge to dignify this living.

    Explore the knowledge and Islam is the guide line in vertical context, meaning it cannot be changed but to analyze, comparison and resolved. This is vertical thinking..no twisting and turning, simple and straight forward.

    Integrity is intelligence...

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    There are some threads with some high level reasoning u can find them on "Refutation " section and some on "Comparative religion " also Insha Allah

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    i don't have any idea what vertical and lateral matter have to do with reasonings or with alcohol either, for that matter.
    i agree with ahsan.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    i don't have any idea what vertical and lateral matter have to do with reasonings or with alcohol either, for that matter.
    i agree with ahsan.

    I appreciate your sincerety..

    vertical is you analyzed, you compare, you work for it but accordingly to the principle and guidelines..that cannot be twist and turn...it rigid.


    lateral is you find ways and means to resolve the solutions...twist and turn

    Like drinking alcohol eg..some says moderation is acceptable..so this type of mindset is lateral thinking...twist and turn (they get ways and means to reason out )

    Allah provides us cognitive skill for us to be constructive in our lives so that we are able to solve our problems and able to cope with our daily stresses of activity living. Unless we are born congenitally without cognitive skills, Allah will forgive us.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    Allah Says in the Qurán:
    THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION - 2:256
    The religion is made by commandments. And these Commandments must be accepted by humans through reasoning, except those which human beings limited knowledge cannot afford, like believing in the gayb.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by imrano View Post
    Allah Says in the Qurán:
    THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION - 2:256
    The religion is made by commandments. And these Commandments must be accepted by humans through reasoning, except those which human beings limited knowledge cannot afford, like believing in the gayb.

    Believing in gayb like believing in yourself. Gay is also another type of mindset like you need to rehabiltate and therapy.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    i don't have any idea what vertical and lateral matter have to do with reasonings or with alcohol either, for that matter.
    i agree with ahsan.
    Obviously your education in school does not cover the above topic.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    i don't have any idea what vertical and lateral matter have to do with reasonings or with alcohol either, for that matter.
    i agree with ahsan.
    I would say, obviously your education in school does not cover this topic.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous View Post
    I would say, obviously your education in school does not cover this topic.
    i hardly went to school - maybe that's why.
    this vertical and lateral reasoning stuff is completely new to me! i'll just keep my mouth shut and see what i can learn.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    i hardly went to school - maybe that's why.
    this vertical and lateral reasoning stuff is completely new to me! i'll just keep my mouth shut and see what i can learn.
    I am glad you are not shy to admit. Me, too, I am a kindergarden dropout. But luckily, I managed to pick up a little before this kindergarden dropped me out.

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    Greetings,

    Vertical and Lateral thinking are concepts designated by Edward de Bono, the Maltese psychologist. They do not play a particularly significant role in contemporary thought outside of his work, as far as I know.

    A much more common distinction made by logicians is between deductive and inductive logic.

    Islamic belief makes much use of deductive reasoning, that is, there are lots of rules, and a Muslim's behaviour should be guided by following or extrapolating from them.

    Peace

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,

    Vertical and Lateral thinking are concepts designated by Edward de Bono, the Maltese psychologist. They do not play a particularly significant role in contemporary thought outside of his work, as far as I know.

    A much more common distinction made by logicians is between deductive and inductive logic.

    Islamic belief makes much use of deductive reasoning, that is, there are lots of rules, and a Muslim's behaviour should be guided by following or extrapolating from them.

    Peace
    thanks for the link.
    I_notGenerous, i wasn't joking about school. i developed a chronic and fatal allergy to formal education in grammar school.
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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous View Post
    Believing in gayb like believing in yourself. Gay is also another type of mindset like you need to rehabiltate and therapy.
    Where did you find information that being gay is a "mindset"?

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    Re: Reasonings (Vertical and Lateral Matter)

    ^^^ are you gay? if so then perhaps you can shed some light on what drove you into homoeroticism and dispel some of the myths and doubts for us..

    cheers!
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