I am aware that there were some Muslims at the time of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) who didn't get the honour to meet the Prophet. What is the title given to them?
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
50 posts? That’s great.
Yes they do have a title I was told by Abu Usama of Green Lane Masjid, Birmingham but I forget. I knew I should have taken a pen and paper with me to make notes.
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
format_quote Originally Posted by Mr_Ali
50 posts? That’s great.
Yes they do have a title I was told by Abu Usama of Green Lane Masjid, Birmingham but I forget. I knew I should have taken a pen and paper with me to make notes.
Abu Usama ?.
I hope I can ask this question directly to him. Unfortunately, I am not living in UK.
Wait, wait. Is he Abu Usama who I know from some articles ?
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
I am so curious too.
I never heard about title for them. But, there were two category of Muslim during prophet Muhammad (saw) period.
First, Muhajireen. Muslims who follow RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah.
Second, Anshar. Origin people of Madinah.
Maybe they are Anshar. They accepted Islam before RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah. But, they had meet RasulAllah in Madinah. So, who are they ?
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
Erm, are you talking about people liike Uwais Al Qarni? Who for some reason or another, couldn't meet the Prophet
Though I've no idea what they are called?
" Its sometimes better people don't get to know you..
Cuz the more they know you, the less they understand & accept you..
Alone is better, what say " - SRK
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
According to a lecture given by Anwar Al-Awlaki about the seerah of the Prophet (peace be upon him), specifically mentioning Owais Al Qarni, they are indeed called Tabi'een.
Allahu alim if that's correct, but this is what he reported.
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
format_quote Originally Posted by Mr_Ali
Salamwalium,
I am aware that there were some Muslims at the time of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) who didn't get the honour to meet the Prophet. What is the title given to them?
.
peace
They are called
Almukhadramin
المخضرمين
(إلزم طريق الهداية و لا يغرنك قلة السالكين و أبعد عن طريق الغواية و لا يغرنك كثرة الهالكين)
{ ادفع بالتي هي أحسن فإذا الذي بينك وبينه عداوة كأنه ولي حميم
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
We have many opinions as you can see,none have authentic proof,best to ask someone more intelligent in these matters insha'Allah,perhaps your local Imam?
format_quote Originally Posted by zÂk
Tabi'een?
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Abu Usama ?.
I hope I can ask this question directly to him. Unfortunately, I am not living in UK.
Wait, wait. Is he Abu Usama who I know from some articles ?
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
I am so curious too.
I never heard about title for them. But, there were two category of Muslim during prophet Muhammad (saw) period.
First, Muhajireen. Muslims who follow RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah.
Second, Anshar. Origin people of Madinah.
Maybe they are Anshar. They accepted Islam before RasulAllah hijrah to Madinah. But, they had meet RasulAllah in Madinah. So, who are they ?
format_quote Originally Posted by Crazy_Lady
Erm, are you talking about people liike Uwais Al Qarni? Who for some reason or another, couldn't meet the Prophet
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
format_quote Originally Posted by Yanal
So many opinions:
but mine is the correct,it is supported by the books in Hadith science
as (the knowledge of the science of hadith by Alhakem)
قال أبو عبد الله الحاكم رحمه الله :
" فأما المخضرمون من التابعين ـ هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وليست لهم صحبة ـ فهم : أبو رجاء العطاردي ، وأبو وائل الأسدي ، وسويد بن غَفَلَة ، وعثمان النهدي ، وغيرهم من التابعين " انتهى .
" معرفة علوم الحديث " (ص/44)
.
Abu Abdullah Alhakem said:
Almukhadramon from Tabie are those who lived pre Islam and during the life of the prophet peace be upon him as well but they had not accompanied him.. as Abu rajaa Alataredy,Abu Wael Alasady,suwaid ben ghafla,Othman Alnahdy and others etc.....
and (the introduction by Hafiz Ibn Alsalah)
وقال الحافظ أبو عمرو ابن الصلاح رحمه الله :
" المخضرمون من التابعين : هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وأسلموا ولا صحبة لهم . واحدهم مخضرَم - بفتح الراء - كأنه خُضْرِم : أي قُطع عن نظرائه الذين أدركوا الصحبة وغيرها . وذكرهم ( مسلم ) فبلغ بهم عشرين نفسا منهم :
أبو عمرو الشيباني ، وسويد بن غفلة الكندي ، وعمرو بن ميمون الأودي ، وعبد خير بن يزيد الخَيْوَانِي ، وأبو عثمان النهدي ، وعبد الرحمن بن مل ، وأبو الحَلَال العَتَكي ربيعة بن زرارة " انتهى.
" المقدمة " (179)
والمخضرم مأخوذ من الشيء المتردد بين أمرين .
Almukhadramon from Tabie are those who lived pre Islam and during the life of the prophet peace be upon him as well but they had not accompanied him.. Muslim mentioned that they were 20 persons .
and (Altakeed walidah by Hafiz Iraqi)
قال الحافظ العراقي رحمه الله :
" المخضرم متردد بين الصحابة لإدراكه زمن الجاهلية والإسلام ، وبين التابعين لعدم رؤية النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فهو متردد بين أمرين " انتهى باختصار.
" التقييد والإيضاح " (ص/323)
Almukhadram is the in between person (between Sahabi ) ,as he lived in both before and after the coming of Islam ,and Tabie because he never met the prophet peace be upon him.....
peace
Last edited by Imam; 07-14-2009 at 11:47 PM.
(إلزم طريق الهداية و لا يغرنك قلة السالكين و أبعد عن طريق الغواية و لا يغرنك كثرة الهالكين)
{ ادفع بالتي هي أحسن فإذا الذي بينك وبينه عداوة كأنه ولي حميم
Re: What is the title given to those who never met the Prophet?
JazakAllah Khayr for clarifying but like to translate in English for the users that cannot read Arabic yet?
format_quote Originally Posted by Imam
but mine is the correct,it is supported by the books in Hadith science
as (the knowledge of the science of hadith by Alhakem)
قال أبو عبد الله الحاكم رحمه الله :
" فأما المخضرمون من التابعين ـ هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وليست لهم صحبة ـ فهم : أبو رجاء العطاردي ، وأبو وائل الأسدي ، وسويد بن غَفَلَة ، وعثمان النهدي ، وغيرهم من التابعين " انتهى .
" معرفة علوم الحديث " (ص/44)
.
and (the introduction by Hafiz Ibn Alsalah)
وقال الحافظ أبو عمرو ابن الصلاح رحمه الله :
" المخضرمون من التابعين : هم الذين أدركوا الجاهلية وحياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وأسلموا ولا صحبة لهم . واحدهم مخضرَم - بفتح الراء - كأنه خُضْرِم : أي قُطع عن نظرائه الذين أدركوا الصحبة وغيرها . وذكرهم ( مسلم ) فبلغ بهم عشرين نفسا منهم :
أبو عمرو الشيباني ، وسويد بن غفلة الكندي ، وعمرو بن ميمون الأودي ، وعبد خير بن يزيد الخَيْوَانِي ، وأبو عثمان النهدي ، وعبد الرحمن بن مل ، وأبو الحَلَال العَتَكي ربيعة بن زرارة " انتهى.
" المقدمة " (179)
والمخضرم مأخوذ من الشيء المتردد بين أمرين .
and (Altakeed walidah by Hafiz Iraqi)
قال الحافظ العراقي رحمه الله :
" المخضرم متردد بين الصحابة لإدراكه زمن الجاهلية والإسلام ، وبين التابعين لعدم رؤية النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فهو متردد بين أمرين " انتهى باختصار.
" التقييد والإيضاح " (ص/323)
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