Diary of a Badman.

Salaam

If you skip to the end of "bad mans" videos he does try to bring Islamic morality in his conclusions - but overall the video has nothing to do with Islam and alot to do with Pak culture in the UK. Its a critic and a mockery of that then anything else.

peace

I think we need to stop criticizing efforts that are not from our traditional view and are out of the box, especially when there is nothing in the videos that warrants what some are, in their over zealousness, declaring as kufr or nifaaq (by quoting the ayah from Tawbah). Chill out, your act of self righteously using that ayah against a Muslim is a greater evil than any perceived 'evil' you think they're doing.

I agree 100% with aamirsaab and Muraad...


I had never heard of Diary of a Bad Man before this, but I went ahead and checked it out... It's not even close to being as bad as some people in this thread made it out to be... In fact, its quite funny and entertaining a lot of the time, and he even tries to end his videos with a good message. I can't believe how some people are over reacting though... Honestly, the only thing that I found offensive or embarrassing was the video in the OP. That guy sounds incredibly ignorant and out of touch with reality, and he's probably doing more damage to people's perception of Islam with his little rant than Diary of a Bad Man ever could...

I checked this imaam's youtube page out (they're called londondawah). They are connected with Anjum Choudry (yeah that guy)...which pretty much explains everything.

format_quote Originally Posted by Beardo

He literally called Humza Arshad a fool. And he said he's lower than baboon.

No wonder the Muslim community is falling apart. Some of us keep fighting amongst ourselves and call each other names.

when he first started doing the videos, although silly they were also funny.
This last one however-he took it too far, was a bit too gay and disgusting.

fact is many youth do watch him so he has an islamic duty to not go over the limit

where did he insult niqabis, i didnt catch that?

format_quote Originally Posted by Ghazalah

I'm totally against this guys videos, he has what, 5% of Islam in his videos? If you have no idea what diary of a badman is then I encourage you don't waste your time in trying to search for it. But I found this video going against him...



He addresses the issue very well but I think he was quite harsh... What's your views?

There is no wisdom in this, it's ranting. To advise in public is to embarrass and humiliate, to advise in private is to offer naseehah. Sadly, this video is the former.

Aamirsaab has a very valid point. Though there may have been an Islamic message included, Humza may not have been intending to make his videos Islamic.

Brothers and sisters, forgive mistakes. Humza aka Mr Bad Man doesn't seem like a religious man so we shouldn't expect him to deliver the perfect Islamic message.

i just finished watching all the episodes after reading the sister's thread.

i can't help but be honest - i was laughing through most of it,
but when i saw them making foolish dances with the woman etc, it made my eyebrows go up and the grin went - that part is not funny,

i also remember seeing one of my cousin's daughter watching it on my laptop when she visited my house a few months back - it was the iphone 4 episode, gotta say, there are some morals in it (especially for the 15 year old girl who doesn't come back home some nights!)

it's like a muslim ali g - but with less lewdness and a few good morals - but some stupid parts that aren't acceptable.

we are on this forum among many practising brothers and sisters masha-Allah, but we must also bear in mind that there are a whole lot of youth who are lost in that culture and are watching things much worse.
personally - now that i've seen it - if i saw one of my nephews watching borat or something filled with filth and neocon propaganda, i'd probably switch this on for them,

i remember hearing a hadith once where the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said something in the spirit of - satan tries to make people go astray in different ways, and he employs different methods depending on the person's faith, and down the list with every unsuccessful attempt:

◕◕◕ 6 Tactics of Iblees ◕◕◕
◕1) KUFR AND SHIRK (disbelief and associating partners with Almighty God)
◕2) BID'AH (Innovation in the way of life revealed to the Prophet (pbuh)
◕3) MAJOR SINS
◕4) MINOR SINS
◕5) Occupying too much in PERMISSIBLE THINGS
◕6) Wasting too much time in DEEDS OF LESSER REWARD
and i think a 7th (upon total failure) was vilification, character assassination and oppression.

so, i would think this guys videos fall somewhere near the bottom (between the middle and the bottom),
but if someone is at a lower stage and won't even hear anything good anyone has to say, chills with idiots and tries to act like ali g, can it be useful to reverse that list above to drag him back up? sure he'd laugh and be entertained and learn something. (some kids are already like that with none of the good parts), or are you guilty of that point???

btw, i did notice that when he was saying silly things to the brother with the beard, he was playing the fool, while the brother was portrayed as respectable and always shown in a positive thoughtful light.

but then i saw IN HIS OWN VIDEO where he says: if you're given the choice between two evils, choose none, and if two good, choose both....
which got me thinking..............

i'm sure that video would get a lot of asian youths who are from Muslim backgrounds to think,
especially seeing that some of the paths satan leads them down is horrendously worse.................
and it was good of him to add the few morals he did in his comedy unlike some of the other comedies out there.

but then the stupid jokes with his mum dancing with the boys is bad taste.

still gotta say - he was otherwise funny and if i chose between ali g and him - i'd go with him if i didn't follow his advice to choose none.

there are decent videos out there that are captivating:











but would they even watch them? (is that satan whispering to me - or am i just using my common sense???????????????)

tricky question after seeing the videos.

There was another thread just like this a while back, with a video of some nut screaming about how evil diary of a badman is. Seems like this is more of the same... Actually, it could just be the audio from that video... I didn't listen long enough to know for sure since I value my brain cells.

I hope nobody takes this kind of stuff seriously though... It's pretty ridiculous how worked up he's getting over something so insignificant, especially when it seems like he hasn't even watched the videos he's talking about. Putting some nice sounding music over his rant doesn't hide the stupidity of what he's actually saying. (Although I suppose some people fell for it, since it wouldn't be going around otherwise...) To top it off, Diary of a badman isn't even that bad... In fact, it's probably done more good than this guy...

Diary of a bad man (facepalm) - the guy is a clown. And Muslims DON'T respect clowns. Let's put that aside for a second, no one in the world takes clowns seriously, they are a fad, and entertainment and no matter what kind of message they are trying to portray, it doesn't change the fact that they *******ized the intent of it by going all out in their alter ego, clowned self.

and da'wah in the way like Humza has done is more effective to attract youth back to Islam, than da'wah that show the 'hard Islam'.

Rrrrreaaaaalllyyy? Where is the proof? How do you measure such a brash claim? oh wait, unless you are judging by the blue jeans jamaat that walks into the masjid for Jumma prayer, with their jeans dragging by their heels (facepalm). They are sad compromises who only go Jumma because they are afraid that people will think they are "bad". When asked to roll their jeans up above the ankles, you get a very 'diary of a badman-ish' type response, something like "Nah blud, this is how I do ya get me blud?"... two thappar on his sar and he'll be getting my handprint making him look like darth maul.

Scimi