I'm totally against this guys videos, he has what, 5% of Islam in his videos? If you have no idea what diary of a badman is then I encourage you don't waste your time in trying to search for it. But I found this video going against him...
He addresses the issue very well but I think he was quite harsh... What's your views?
I had never heard of this 'Diary of a Madman' until today.
How does one even consider his pieces of absolute nonsense, a means of 'dawah'??
If young muslims, are actually looking up to types such as these - then I truly fear for this ummah.
What an embarrassment!
What a mockery to Islam, and our Nabi (sallahu alaihi wasalam)!
Is this the new face of the muslim scholar?
His videos fall under 'comedy' - poor comedy at that, not dawah!
Please brothers and sisters - raise your standards just a bit, when it comes to acquiring deeni knowledge - the most important knowledge you can ever attain on this dunya.....
Its your ticket to the aakhirah.
Calm down people...it's not that serious. If you don't like it, move on with your life. No one said you had to like it. Stop hating just because you personally feel it doesn't fit your personal tastes. Your personal views or (mis)interpretation of his videos/message doesn't warrant calling him a hypocrite or that he's making fun of the religion. He's not, he's making fun of the desi culture. If you don't like it it's fine, no need to throw out statements attacking the guys Imaan.
Do you know bro? many Muslim youth are afraid to Islam and regard Islam as "backward religion".
And people like Humza could show the youth that Islam is religion that fit with modern life. It could make those youth not afraid again to Islam, and start to life as Muslim. InshaAllah, those youth will have interest to learn Islam. And when they start have interest to learn Islam, you can teach them, slowly, softly, and gradualy.
If you come to Muslim youth who afraid to Islam and give da'wah that full of "haram!..haram!", they will run. That's why we need people like Humza who can talk to Muslim youth with 'language' that easily to understood by the youth.
Do you know bro? many Muslim youth are afraid to Islam and regard Islam as "backward religion".
And people like Humza could show the youth that Islam is religion that fit with modern life. It could make those youth not afraid again to Islam, and start to life as Muslim. InshaAllah, those youth will have interest to learn Islam. And when they start have interest to learn Islam, you can teach them, slowly, softly, and gradualy.
If you come to Muslim youth who afraid to Islam and give da'wah that full of "haram!..haram!", they will run. That's why we need people like Humza who can talk to Muslim youth with 'language' that easily to understood by the youth.
Youth are different than adult, bro.
My response bro ^ look above. Sister Zaria says it like it is. I mean: Is this the guy who is supposed to be a good influence on Muslim youth?
"on facebook I will Poke your mum"
"Made an app about your aunties mustache"
"expect a spinning bird kick on your mums chin" etc etc etc... sure, you guys go ahead and promote him all you want.
As for dawah? bro, I give dawah to the youth - and there are better ways to get thru to them then be a bad man wannabe idiot.
When Prophet Muhammad pbuh gave dawah in Makkah (the Makka verses of the Quran were also dawah too) he never preached anything about hellfire or haram - instead he preached the beauty and wonderment of Allah SUbhana waTa'aala's creation, on the earth and in the heavens, HIS majesty, might, mercy, and favour upon mankind. e preached the finer qualities that should be instilled in humanity, for the betterment of mankind...
... Fast forward 1400 odd yrs and you got Diary of Bad Man as dawah? Get a grip! This Ummah is messed up man... and it reflects itself in some of the comments I read here and on other forums.
Calm down people...it's not that serious. If you don't like it, move on with your life. No one said you had to like it. Stop hating just because you personally feel it doesn't fit your personal tastes.
I highly doubt it has anything to do with personality tastes - this guy has made a mockery out of Islam. I don't see him as a good influence at all. let me prove it.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muraad
Your personal views or (mis)interpretation of his videos/message doesn't warrant calling him a hypocrite or that he's making fun of the religion. He's not, he's making fun of the desi culture. If you don't like it it's fine, no need to throw out statements attacking the guys Imaan.
Attacking his imaan? he did that all by himself when he waxed lyrical about this:
"On facebook I will poke your mum"
"I made an app about your aunties mustache"
"expect a spinning bird kick on your mums chin"
Sure - this qualifies for Imaan in your book right bro? COme on, surely even you can see that this guy is a hypocritical sod. Makes a video full of nonsense and at the end he sometimes says a nice word... and that is dawah? No... that so isn't dawah. That is just heedlessness.
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
There is no wisdom in what he is saying. It's an angry rant.
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
Yes, a part of it is, and rightly so in my opinion... but the rest of it is actually quite good. Anyone watched the whole thing yet? I have and I think this guy is spot on.
The video has been removed from the user lol but wot ever he said u should just ignore because there will always b people who truly dont understand Islam. Just brush it off it shoulder and move on, wither he was joking or mocking it doesn't matter. Only Allah know the truth and only he will judge. Peace.
I can not, for the life of me understand how ANY God-fearing muslim on this forum, can actually defend this guy.
Where, or where are we headed?!
Even if Mr Madman has not called himself a 'scholar' and does not claim to be a voice that reflects Islam.......HOW do we even condone EVER watching such videos?
To those who watch Mr Sadman to gain Islamic knowledge - please go open your Quraan and Hadith, sit in the company of your elders and imams - and learn true deen from there.
To those who watch for the purpose of entertainment - please enlighten me: which part of his videos are permissible in Islam?
The rap music?
The disrespect to mothers and women?
The falsehoods that are spread about YOUR Islam?
The humour that is in such bad taste?
......to name a few.......
I am confused.
Where are we in disagreement here?
All in the name of some fun and entertainment, and a few laughs - we are willing to defend this sort of utter nonsense?!
Had the very same videos been produced by a kuffar - with exactly the same content, I promise you - we will ALL be throwing our toys!
Is this not double standards?
Hypocrisy?
Go on - watch another video from this clown/ rapper - and ask yourself this.
I will end with the following to contemplate on, insha Allah.
Please do not take lightly even what is seemingly minor sins, brothers and sisters.
Do we forget that all 'major' sins begin from those that seem somewhat unimportant?
For Allah says:
"When you received it with your tongues and said with your mouths that of which you had no knowledge and thought it was insignificant while it was, in the sight of Allah , tremendous." (Quran 24:15)
Said Anas, may Allah be pleased with him (to one of the followers): "You imagine certain sins to be more insignificant than a straw. But, at the time of the Prophet we used to count them among those that can destroy a man."
Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The believer regards his sin as if he were sitting beneath a mountain which he fears may fall on him, whereas the sinner regards his sin as if a fly lands on his nose and he swipes it away.”
Let us not be like the sinner who swipes the fly away......thinking too little of it.
There is NO place for these sorts of videos to ANY muslim.
There is NO good in it.
Period.
The video has been removed from the user lol but wot ever he said u should just ignore because there will always b people who truly understand Islam. Just brush it off it shoulder and move on, wither he was joking or mocking it doesn't matter. Only Allah know the truth and only he will judge. Peace.
Uhm no.
It is your and my duty as a Muslim to stop an injustice physically if you are able, if not then to stop it with your tongue, if unable there then ask Allah to save you from the fitna of it.
This badman clown has taken it too far... And if we can't stop him coz we don't know how to get a hold of him - Then it's up to us to make as amny people aware as possible about him and the danger of what he does.
Misrepresenting Islam the way he does is just wrong. Some of you sound like you like to laugh a lot and catch some jokes, even if it's at the expense of the Muslims and Islam, or the honour of your sisters, mothers, wives and daughters. Wake up. Stop seeing things with one eye...
The prophet PBUH was reported to have said "If you knew what I knew you would laugh less and cry often".
Sitting around doing nothing, ignoring it and hoping it will go away is a very defeatist approach, I have to say... Don't be like that.
format_quote Originally Posted by ~Zaria~
Had the very same videos been produced by a kuffar - with exactly the same content, I promise you - we will ALL be throwing our toys!
And this is exactly it... thank you for this sis Zaria. Well pointed out!
The video has been removed from the user lol but wot ever he said u should just ignore because there will always b people who truly dont understand Islam. Just brush it off it shoulder and move on, wither he was joking or mocking it doesn't matter.
Assalamuaalykum,
Lets be honest, if everyone though in this manner, if people who were preaching wrong about Islam and all the muslims stayed silent and 'brushed it off there shoulders and moved on' then who would tell them why there action is wrong.
Dealing with and correcting mistakes is also a part of sincerity in religion (naseehah) which is a duty on all Muslims. The connection between this and the concept of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, which is also a duty
It is your and my duty as a Muslim to stop an injustice physically if you are able, if not then to stop it with your tongue, if unable there then ask Allah to save you from the fitna of it.
This badman clown has taken it too far... And if we can't stop him coz we don't know how to get a hold of him - Then it's up to us to make as amny people aware as possible about him and the danger of what he does.
Misrepresenting Islam the way he does is just wrong. Some of you sound like you like to laugh a lot and catch some jokes, even if it's at the expense of the Muslims and Islam, or the honour of your sisters, mothers, wives and daughters. Wake up. Stop seeing things with one eye...
The prophet PBUH was reported to have said "If you knew what I knew you would laugh less and cry often".
Sitting around doing nothing, ignoring it and hoping it will go away is a very defeatist approach, I have to say... Don't be like that.
And this is exactly it... thank you for this sis Zaria. Well pointed out!
Scimi
Akhi, with that video I seriously can't even imagine that he actually put anything right, regardless of what he intended to do. I haven't listened to the whole video but the first 10 minutes were intense enough for me to click the X button.
I'm sorry but if Humza (Aka Mr. Badman) has misinterpreted Islam then that video, to me, is sending a further misinterpretation of Islam from those who practise it. Where is the patience and humbleness in this message? Where are the ayaat from Qur'an and the admonishments from ahadeeth to correct another Muslim?
The Muslim who is a kafir is one who knew Islam and has thence left it, thus one cannot 'sell Islam' before even knowing what he is neglecting.
And if I remember correctly, after the Messenger said this statement "If you knew what I knew you would laugh less and cry often", verses of mercy were revealed. Thus, Allah instructed the Messenger to make the ummah feel full of hope and optimism, and not to make peple feel in despair of Allah's mercy. I would quote this last paragraph but I heard it in a lecture.
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
Where is the patience and humbleness in this message?
I see your point. I doubt that the speaker in the video is a sheikh - he's just a Muslim bro who is expressing his disdain for the antics of this Humza badman caricature.
However, if you can get past the harshness and listen to what he has to say (give the man the same chance you gave badman, watch the whole thing) you will see that the humbled intent of his message, and the advice he gives in the latter part of the video, is actually really quite good. He hits home with a lot of points he makes.
I agree he isn't the most charismatic speaker, but give him a chance and listen to what he says. The same chance everyone else gave Humza bad man guy.
One last thing, I don't think the guy misrepresented Islam at all. Expressing ones frustrations at an injustice is hardly to be taken as misrepresenting Islam brother. Especially if the person in question takes the time out to explain why he is frustrated and explains that with Islamic teachings in mind.
Just do yourself some justice and stomach the rest of it. What you have is an unfair bias atm.
Assalamuaalykum,Dealing with and correcting mistakes is also a part of sincerity in religion (naseehah) which is a duty on all Muslims. The connection between this and the concept of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, which is also a duty
And as Imaam Ash-Shaafi'ii said: to advise in privacy is to give true and sincere naseehah, and to advise in public is to humiliate. And therefore imaam Ash-Shaafi'ee said to a people in a gather, "...so do not be disheartened if I pay no attention to your advice if you advise me in public..."
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And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
I see your point. I doubt that the speaker in the video is a sheikh - he's just a Muslim bro who is expressing his disdain for the antics of this Humza badman caricature.
However, if you can get past the harshness and listen to what he has to say (give the man the same chance you gave badman, watch the whole thing) you will see that the humbled intent of his message, and the advice he gives in the latter part of the video, is actually really quite good. He hits home with a lot of points he makes.
I agree he isn't the most charismatic speaker, but give him a chance and listen to what he says. The same chance everyone else gave Humza bad man guy.
One last thing, I don't think the guy misrepresented Islam at all. Expressing ones frustrations at an injustice is hardly to be taken as misrepresenting Islam brother. Especially if the person in question takes the time out to explain why he is frustrated and explains that with Islamic teachings in mind.
Just do yourself some justice and stomach the rest of it. What you have is an unfair bias atm.
Scimi
It will be hard to get past the harshness after the damage has already been done. It's like slapping someone in the face and telling him to listen to you.
Allah says to the Messenger "...And had you been severe and harsh¬hearted, they would have broken away from about you..." (3:159), what would be the case with us? How much will we drive the people away?
The Messenger had the best way to get to people's hearts to make them receptive of the message, and it wasn't through harshness.
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And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
But I request you to watch the rest, skip past the first ten mins or so and just listen to what the brother says, the points he brings up. He does mean well.
Like I mentioned before, the brother was expressing his frustrations on this issue for the first ten mins or so - granted he went a bit far at times like calling out Humza and even sharing his mobile number in the video for Humza to call back... but, look past that and see the message he wants Humza to understand. And you will see that this brother did indeed mean well. At any rate, he did more than what we have. And that earns some brownie points in my book.
It will be hard to get past the harshness after the damage has already been done. It's like slapping someone in the face and telling him to listen to you.
Allah says to the Messenger "...And had you been severe and harsh¬hearted, they would have broken away from about you..." (3:159), what would be the case with us? How much will we drive the people away?
The Messenger had the best way to get to people's hearts to make them receptive of the message, and it wasn't through harshness.
I wish people understood this bro. Harshness never works. and if they dont agree with it then they are going against what Allah has said in the verse u mentioned.
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said this statement "If you knew what I knew you would laugh less and cry often", verses of mercy were revealed. Thus, Allah instructed the Messenger to make the ummah feel full of hope and optimism, and not to make peple feel in despair of Allah's mercy. I would quote this last paragraph but I heard it in a lecture.
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