Diary of a Badman.

Asalaamu Alaikum,

I've seen one episode and it's quite sad. I don't know if he's even a Muslim, but he's mimicking Islam and it's practices and throwing it out as a "joke".

Whatever the case, don't watch that useless timewaste.

In all fairness, the makers of Diary of a Badman never, ever claimed their content was A) Islamic B) suitable for a young audience

So any criticisms levied on either of those basis aren't justified. Neither is a 30 minute lecture.

Whilst I agree that the videos aren't particularly Islamic nor educational, they were never intended to be.

He is mocking Islam in his videos, mocking women who wear niqaab. Then thinking the last two minutes justify the nonsense in his videos.

"If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allah and His Ayah and His Messenger (saw) that you were mocking?" Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimoon (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.)" [9:65-6]


Ibn Qudama Maqdasi al Hambali [Kitabul Mughni -- Baabul Murtad v8 p299]
"Who ever swear at Allah (swt) whether joking or serious is a kafir" and "Who ever mocks, Allah (swt) his Messengers, his book or the good deeds of the believers (amale saleh) is a kafir"

Imam Qurtabi reported that Ibnul Arabi (immati Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah)
[Qurtabi Jami al Ahkam Quran v8 p397]
Qurtabi explained that Ibnul Arabi said "those who mocking the Sahabah (ra) were either serious or joking...in anyway that is kufr akbar, if he was serious then the hukm is clear cut, but if he was laughing at the kufr then he is still a kafir.

I'll agree that diary of a badman is a load of crap

but these al muhajiroon so called 'scholars' cannot be taken seriously, this guy is trying to preach islam yet constantly insults and threatens humzah, he talks like some kind of badboy wannabe himself.

format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77

but these al muhajiroon so called 'scholars' cannot be taken seriously, this guy is trying to preach islam yet constantly insults and threatens humzah, he talks like some kind of badboy wannabe himself.

Yeah, despite getting to the point, he was quite harsh.

Also diary of a badman is not meant to be some islamic series either, its clearly just a bunch of idiots putting it on and trying to act funny, the videos are aimed at asian audiences who know about all the stereotypes that he talks about

format_quote Originally Posted by Ghazalah

He is mocking Islam in his videos, mocking women who wear niqaab. Then thinking the last two minutes justify the nonsense in his videos.
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Any time he mocks anything "Islamic" he gets smacked (in some cases, stabbed) for it in the video immediately after. Seriously, his vids are just light entertainment - they aren't serious, he's not really like that and any comments he makes are part of the act.

Not saying you have to like his content (if you don't, quite simply don't watch it), but at the same time don't get self righteous.

format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab

Seriously, his vids are just light entertainment - they aren't serious,

My point exactly...

"If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allah and His Ayah and His Messenger (saw) that you were mocking?" Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimoon (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.)" [9:65-6]

Nobody is being self-righteous.

Salaam,

I'm confused lol.

format_quote Originally Posted by May Ayob

salaam Bro,

Then why say it in first place huh?
I mean if this was a guy speaking about the holocoust in the same way everyone would have said oohh this is anti semitism..!
Then why is it okay when someone disregards Islam? Islam is a religion and anyone who knows what Respect means wouldn't go around making such useless programs for so called light entertainment.
Brother give me a break

Salaam

Oh please, it's a youtube video. There are far worse things out there in the real world CAUSED SOLELY by people who call themselves muslims - stuff that would in all honesty break your heart and crush your spirit. I don't see anyone getting on their high horses, pulling out hadith or making 32 minute long lectures about them. No, reserve that for diary of a badman(!)

format_quote Originally Posted by Ghazalah

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Nobody is being self-righteous.

Ukthi, this whole thread stinks of self-righteous. You can't criticise his videos as being un-islamic when they were never intended to be in the first place!

format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab

Oh please, it's a youtube video. There are far worse things out there in the real world CAUSED SOLELY by people who call themselves muslims - stuff that would in all honesty break your heart and crush your spirit. I don't see anyone getting on their high horses, pulling out hadith or making 32 minute long lectures about them. No, reserve that for diary of a badman(!)

I think I understand what is going on. Some person who calls himself the badman creates funny videos about Islam, targeted towards the Asian community. This Muslim man creates a 30 minute video against the badman and apparently, is harsh in his critique or correction.

I think the 30 minute video is an over-reaction. Cannot youtube members get into contact with each other in private and discuss this? It should not be that difficult.

I personally find al muhajiroon very intimidating. I think they need to relax, find more serious issues to discuss and be sensitive.

I think we all have better things to do than discuss about some badman creating some videos. Just ignore it.

format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab

Ukthi, this whole thread stinks of self-righteous. You can't criticise his videos as being un-islamic when they were never intended to be in the first place!

The point of this thread was not to criticise his videos because I was under the impression nobody on here would actually defend him. The whole point was whether you guys agreed with what the guy, on the video I posted, was correct in what he was saying? I mean he's trying to show that what the diary of a badman is doing is wrong, but the manner he went about it was wrong don't you think? Two wrongs don't make a right

Btw my intention for making this thread was not to argue, and if I came about as being self-righteous then I apologise.

Assalaamu Alaaykum

I am not going to comment on the 'humour' part of the bad man vids, but the part I find issues with is when they sort of mock the Niqaabi women..I dont know some of the words they use sound like theyre making fun..it would be classed as idol talking dont you think?

And to not try sound like im defending anyone, but the bro who makes the vids, is probably not aware what he may be doing is wrong, saying this i may even be wrong,so Allahu Alam on that. So it would be required of us to inform him insha'Allaah..

Im sincerely not looking for arguments for those who disagree with me please insha'Allaah..

format_quote Originally Posted by May Ayob

Salaam Bro,
What is before Worse is Bad, and just because there are many bad things out there doesn't justify this useless waste of time, can you please explain how this stuff is "light entertainment" as you seem to be approving of this waste.

I didn't mean offend you , and if i did then i am sorry

Salaam

I'm not offended sis, it's just that there are seriously so many things that are going on in this world worthy of an imaam's sermon than a youtube video.

format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow

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I personally find al muhajiroon very intimidating. I think they need to relax, find more serious issues to discuss and be sensitive.
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This right here highlights exactly what's wrong with today's muslim communities. We don't demonise the Muslim leaders who corrupted our own home countries turning them into cesspools of evil; raped our own sisters; killed our own brothers. No, we demonise some kid on youtube for acting like a fool, call him a kufr and give him a 32 minute lecture on how he is a bad example. Jeez.

format_quote Originally Posted by Ghazalah

The point of this thread was not to criticise his videos because I was under the impression nobody on here would actually defend him. The whole point was whether you guys agreed with what the guy, on the video I posted, was correct in what he was saying? I mean he's trying to show that what the diary of a badman is doing is wrong, but the manner he went about it was wrong don't you think? Two wrongs don't make a right

Btw my intention for making this thread was not to argue, and if I came about as being self-righteous then I apologise.

Ok, that was my bad. So I do apologise if I bit anyone's head off.

Regarding the imaam's youtube video. Yes he has a point about the youth, but coming down like a ton of bricks on of all things a youtube video (that is intended to be humorous) is becoming self-righteous, especially when he drops in several utterances of Kufr. At that point, I actually turned it off because it was clear this guy had no idea what he was talking about and just wanted to rant for half an hour about a stereotype character who he thinks is actually real.

I do agree that his videos aren't that Islamic, but I've noticed at the end of his videos he does try to send out a positive message to everyone.