I encountered a situation last weekend. I went to the halal shop and instead of the normal brother serving this time, it was a sister. She was arab speaking I think probably Lebanon origin. I have only been to the shop 2, 3 times, with my husband and I was shocked at the women who came in there I only saw this time. Arabic speakers, they were dressed very improperly. The counter girl must have been around 21, 22 years old and had a halter top!!! I was amazed, she said salam and I felt a frown on my face automatically. I am so ashamed now.
It;s ignorance, i never did this before, but I thought, man your language is arabic, I am even deprived of this, you can understand all the ahdeeth and quraan first hand, and yet you stand here like this???
to make her feel guilty I went into the shop again, without my family and bought a Quraan and some islamic CDs for my kids. This time I tried to smile.
I wanted to ask all the hijabi and niqabis how would you treat a non hijabi muslim woman who dresses indecently.
Do you also feel sour? I normally feel very open minded and try and treat them well, so tey can be attracted towards hijab, but I feel so guilty now, I dont know why I was feeling kinda biased.
I was wondering what the etiquettes were for encountering non hijabi sisters...
and just because some 1 says something doesn't mean that they are neccessarily going to do it, I've heard people say countless times "I'M GONNA KILL HIM" but they never actually do. they use the extreme expression to express their anger but in reality they have no actual intention of killing any one. They just wish to demonstrate how upset they are at what has occurred.
Read again carefully, he said
"if it was ok"
so he knows that it's forbidden in Islam and/or formal law to do what he wants to do and he is not going to do it. So what's the crime in it?
However, I agree with you that it is not such a pleasant thought.
Yes, if it weren't for the fact that the law restricts him from it this brute would murder that poor woman. The fact that he desires to do it is whats disturbing.
Not one person? I'm pretty sure I saw people speak against that.
I skimmed back through the thread and I saw only one person, a page or two later, speak out against it. I saw a few people quote him, not to condemn him, but to simply agree that the girls actions were disgusting.
What upsets me is the level of apathy or indifference that is shown when people say things like that. Rather than ostracizing him for being a bloodthirsty lunatic, he is for the most part quietly tolerated.
I didnt reply to him doesnt mean I didnt think it was strange. Just as the rest I'm pretty sure did the same. I don't think its fair for you to generalize everyone. Unfortunately you cant read our brains and nor can I read yours. So I think it's best you stop now
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
I skimmed back through the thread and I saw only one person, a page or two later, speak out against it. I saw a few people quote him, not to condemn him, but to simply agree that the girls actions were disgusting.
What upsets me is the level of apathy or indifference that is shown when people say things like that. Rather than ostracizing him for being a bloodthirsty lunatic, he is for the most part quietly tolerated.
He is a bloodthirsty lunatic? is that a fact?
is it also a fact that you are a pervert who is obviously upset about said words because it touched you personally since you enjoy taking women to hotel rooms and living in sin?
It is easy to come up with a whole scenario most assuredly.. I wouldn't be too liberal with my words if I dislike for others to be judge and jury over mine as well.. in fact I have already seen this as a comment to his:
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Fattah
Selam aleykum
We don't know, we don't know, we don't know. Maybe this person just reverted? Just because you speak Arabic doesn't guarantee that you're raised Islamicly. So have patience and don't judge, instead give advice with diplomacy.
are you picking what you want to read, or just want to pick a fight with someone? If you don't like the lunatics here, then don't be a member here!
all the best
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
I didnt reply to him doesnt mean I didnt think it was strange. Just as the rest I'm pretty sure did the same. I don't think its fair for you to generalize everyone. Unfortunately you cant read our brains and nor can I read yours. So I think it's best you stop now
See, when I first read what he said I didn't think "Hey that's strange...",
woh whats goin on here, lol im not a 'bloodthirsty lunatic' it was just a reaction to readin that crap for the first time
if the two hoe's were married they would have got stoned to death, what hav you gotta say about that Grimjak?
lol, oh aadil have you been charging intot he kafir mounted an a camel beheading people with a broad sword again whilst barking like an otter, im disapointed you said that those days were over, tut tut. You really are a blood thirsty lunatic
"O ye who belive! Endure, outdo all others in endurance, be ready, and observe your duty to Allah, in order that you may succeed"
He is a bloodthirsty lunatic? is that a fact?
is it also a fact that you are a pervert who is obviously upset about said words because it touched you personally since you enjoy taking women to hotel rooms and living in sin?
Yea, I'm sure that's it.
woh whats goin on here, lol im not a 'bloodthirsty lunatic' it was just a reaction to readin that crap for the first time
if the two hoe's were married they would have got stoned to death, what hav you gotta say about that Grimjak?
I can understand how someone might overreact a bit when they hear something they find objectionable (though I think two people having sex is hardly something to get upset about) but what you do was more than just a bit of an overreaction.
I can understand how someone might overreact a bit when they hear something they find objectionable (though I think two people having sex is hardly something to get upset about) but what you do was more than just a bit of an overreaction.
Overreacting here seems more like a clear perception into your own psyche!
all the best
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
lol, oh aadil have you been charging intot he kafir mounted an a camel beheading people with a broad sword again whilst barking like an otter, im disapointed you said that those days were over, tut tut. You really are a blood thirsty lunatic
lol wot? go back to sleep
and camel? come on thats an insult, this is the 21st cenury you need atleast somethin like a quad bike
See, when I first read what he said I didn't think "Hey that's strange...",
I was horrified.
Illicit relations is more horrifying. He had a reaction to something which you seem to have a really big issue with. I hardly doubt he would do it. But you seem to be overreacting more than any of us combined.
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
I would treat them the same way i treat everyone. With respect.
I was asked by a Non hijabi , Non Muslim girl the other day if i had a cigarette or not. I said "No I haven't, Sorry"
Because she had no hijab and she isn't a Muslim it doesn't mean i had to treat her differently. We have no right to judge anyone. That is up to Allah SWT
Treat everyone with respect, regardless of anything else.
What is the point of wearing hijaab if your hair is being seen?
oh there are a lot of women that leave their hair seen... I was in Dubai last month (july) and it was everywhere... (and i dont mean the tourists) my hubby thinks its probably some "in fashion" thing right now...
ahhhhh i will never get the hang of fashion.... sorry but jeans and a shirt work for me... (my hubby says im a redneck.) he he he he he
Illicit relations is more horrifying. He had a reaction to something which you seem to have a really big issue with. I hardly doubt he would do it. But you seem to be overreacting more than any of us combined.
Personally, and this is just me, I think desire for murder is scarier than a couple having sex together.
Again, I'm not a big fan of death threats, especially ones made over something as trivial as premarital sex.
I only responded further because of all the people jumping out to make excuses for that person.
what you find or don't find trivial is really your own business to be dealt with on your own private time. The topics on this board are only concerned with Muslims engaging in pre-marital sex.. since you don't understand the laws, how they work and under what circumstances, as is apparent from your exaggerated reaction to someone expressing an emotion then you should refrain from sharing your pearls or expressing your fears all together. You are absurd at best!
You seem uncomfortable here -- if you don't like the replies you are reading then don't be a member here!
all the best
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
If I meet a Muslimah who is a non-hijabi.I will advise her to wear it and go through the Quran and Ahadith.I will not force her to wear.Because I know forcing has no result.When you tell her the advantages of wearing it, she will definitely wear it.
And if she doesn't. You shouldn't leave it up to choice of the sister. Force her to wear it when she is about 11, only if she wear it will she understand the importance of it.
We cannot force a girl to cover her face until unless she reaches puberty.
If she doesnt, I will then try my best to tell her.I will keep on tryin until I succeed.
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