I'm very interested in the somali language, so can someone inshâ'Allâh translate these words for me, jazak Allâhu khayr..
Bax is like go away, f*** off or sumin' like that right?
How do you say 'Shut up'..
'How's it going?'
'My name is..'
'Call me'
'Dog'
'Boy'
'Girl'
'No'
'Son'
'Daughter'
'1'
'2'
'3'
'Are you hungry?'
'You're so sweet'
'Honey'
'I like you'
'Listen'
'Look'
Qurux has something to do with beautiful right?
What does 'gacaliso' mean?
'macaanto'
i dun want to round rasist lol but somali people look different than rest of afrikan people
could someone explain why??
That is an interesting observation that I myself have noticed about the Somalian people. Indeed, they do look a tad bit different than the rest of the African people. The Somalians have wavier hair, and they are lighter in complexion. Possibly the reason why Somalians look different than other Africans is because they may have perhaps married a different race, therefore their children have developed a lighter skin tone. I would like to point out that the Somlian people are well known for their outer-racial marriages, especially since they might marry some people from upper Africa, which beings Eygpt, Morroco, Algeria, and Ethiopia. They marry people from there, therefore their children being not to look as dark as their parents originally was.
That is an interesting observation that I myself have noticed about the Somalian people. Indeed, they do look a tad bit different than the rest of the African people. The Somalians have wavier hair, and they are lighter in complexion. Possibly the reason why Somalians look different than other Africans is because they may have perhaps married a different race, therefore their children have developed a lighter skin tone. I would like to point out that the Somlian people are well known for their outer-racial marriages, especially since they might marry some people from upper Africa, which beings Eygpt, Morroco, Algeria, and Ethiopia. They marry people from there, therefore their children being not to look as dark as their parents originally was.
thats what i was talking about and u answered my q
i dun want to round rasist lol but somali people look different than rest of afrikan people
Africa is a continent with over 800 million human inhabitants in 54 countries. This question is as ridiculous as me asking you why chinese people look different than the rest of the Asian people.
The question you probably have in mind is why Somalis have features like the white man when Africans are known to have wide noses, big lips and a dark complexion. This very notion is condtioned with the discriminatory ideas provided by the oppressor. With a plain eye, one is able to see that Africa is a unique CONTINENT, which has a population people that are different colour, size, shape, form, language, religion, culture,....etc.
Somalia, like many countries in Africa, has people which may look different from one another. There are wide nose, big lip. dark complexion men/women in Somalia as well as straight hair, pointy nose, light complexion Somali men/women. The image of Somali people is not limited to the likes of Iman. You will be able to see such diversity in Africa, with human beings that are not determined by one stereotyped image. Someone in Cameroon,Sierra Leone or Morroco can be mistaken for a Somali. In fact, thats the true beauty of the African people.
"Faisbir sabran jameelan".Therefore endure with a goodly patience (70:05)
That is an interesting observation that I myself have noticed about the Somalian people. Indeed, they do look a tad bit different than the rest of the African people. The Somalians have wavier hair, and they are lighter in complexion. Possibly the reason why Somalians look different than other Africans is because they may have perhaps married a different race, therefore their children have developed a lighter skin tone. I would like to point out that the Somlian people are well known for their outer-racial marriages, especially since they might marry some people from upper Africa, which beings Eygpt, Morroco, Algeria, and Ethiopia. They marry people from there, therefore their children being not to look as dark as their parents originally was.
Your not somali are you?
I'm somali sis and let me tell ya sis, thats BS.
It has got nothing to do with interracial/intracultral marriage. Only somalis in the west have interracially/intraculturally married and they're few and far between. Somalis living in somalia marry other somalis almost 99% of the time. Some of our familes dont allow their children to marry into different tribes who are also somali and your talking about different races. lol.
Sis Noor got it spot on with her brillant post! (Mashallah sis Noor :loving: ) and i cant add anymore to that.
BTW, Brother Sonz, are you asian (as in south asian- indian, pakistani or bangladeshi)
I say that because its generally asian ppl over here (u.k) always ask us somalis why we're 'different looking' from other africans.
Mmm, those kind of asian people are generally fools though. There's still a lot of racism towards black people, especially coming from the asian community, because the asian community still has a lot of proud, ignorant idiots in it.
I'm Asian by the way (Pakistani), before I get warned for being racist or something
Please do not refer to members posts as BS, as this is offensive, if you dont agree just say you dont agree no need for saying other peoples posts are BS.
It has got nothing to do with interracial/intracultral marriage. Only somalis in the west have interracially/intraculturally married and they're few and far between. Somalis living in somalia marry other somalis almost 99% of the time.
.......and who do you think Somalias will possibly marry when they are in the west? Do you actually think that they will not some way or another marry either a westerner or a christian because they are soo far away from their home? There are millions of somalians that immigrate to different countries. It's just like a black person marrying a white person and they both end up having a mixed child.
Some of our familes dont allow their children to marry into different tribes who are also somali and your talking about different races. lol.
I was talking about the ones that do let their children marry into different tribes. I'm not somlian either but I can certainly tell you that not 100% of somalian families marry their children into different tribes, because that is certainly not true.
Masha'Allaah it's nice to see members learning new languages!
As a hopefully helpful idea in this thread, I was thinking somebody could do like a transliteration of the somali alphabet, because when you write in somali, I understand that the letter sounds do not all correspond to those in English? So to help people read and pronounce correctly, it might be a good idea for someone to explain it Insha'Allaah.
Noun
Pronoun
Verb
Adjective
Preposition
Determiner
Focus word
Classifier
Conjunction
Somali has some grammatical categories which are not found in many other languages, for example the focus word or the focalization phenomenon which concerns those elements in the formation of the sentence which indicate where the intention or the interest or the focus is located in the phrase.
The words baa, ayaa, and waxaa put the focus on nouns and noun phrases.
Example:
John baa baxay - John Focus (baa) went out
John ayaa baxay - John Focus (ayaa) went out
Waxaa baxay John - Focus (waxaa) went out John
Thus, the words baa, ayaa, and waxaa unconsciously raise the question of who went out? Therefore the noun.
Somali also has the word waa which puts the focus on verbs and verb phrases.
Example:
John waa baxay John Focus (waa) went out
Waa is different from other previous one we have just seen, because it raises the question of what did John do? Therefore the verb.
Writing system
It had no written alphabet as late as 1972 (apart from occasional proposals, such as Osmanya), but the government changed this, for a literacy program and introduced the Latin alphabet. This sets it apart from the languages near it, which either use the Amharic or the Arabic alphabet.
Before the colonial period, educated Somalis and religious fraternities used the Arabic language. It is also evidenced from material discovered in 1940, mainly ancient letters and tomb inscriptions, that the Somali language was written with the Arabic alphabet, just like the Urdu and Persian languages. But it was not certainly "codified" and questions remains about how its use was widespread. Further investigation is required.
The Somali latin alphabet is:
B, T, J, X, KH, D, R, S, SH, DH, C, G, F, Q, K, L, M, N, W, H, Y. (To be noted the absence of consonants P, V, Z for obvious reasons.)
Also, it has short vowels A, E, I, O, U, and long vowels AA, EE, II, OO, UU.
The consonants C, DH, KH, Q and X have totally different sounds from the classic Latin one. Therefore it is not a direct interpretation of the Latin alphabet, as is common in its use.
Anyways, as far as I know, the x is pronounced like ح, like alxamdulillah or subxanallah (Right?) and a word like macaanto, then the c is like ع, so it's ma'aanto or ma3anto (I THINK!)..
Lol.. Maybe I shouldn't be the one trying to explain the language! I'll shut up now..
Muzzien:I aint gonna get into the whole asian/black racism ish, but yea your right. Funny thing is though, these guys are like our generation. I'd expect that ish from elders/adults, not from born-bred u.k kids. It still shocks me when i hear my young bruvs + sisters from your regions saying that stuff that are way out of line. The whole muslim unity thing aint gunna get anywhere if people still chat/think like that.
Halima:
Your race doesnt matter per se, but it explains the explanation about somalis that you came up with because it was compltely untrue. Even the most out of touch somali wouldnt of come out with such an ill informed answer. It was really an ignorant statement to make and an offensive one at that.
format_quote Originally Posted by Halima
.......and who do you think Somalias will possibly marry when they are in the west? Do you actually think that they will not some way or another marry either a westerner or a christian because they are soo far away from their home? There are millions of somalians that immigrate to different countries. It's just like a black person marrying a white person and they both end up having a mixed child.
I dont know what your getting at here. Personally im not bothered who my fellow countrymen/women marry as long as their muslim. But i was stating FACT love. Somalis generally marry somalis. Like Arabs mostly marry arabs. Like Asians marry asians. Its not rocket science. Yes, those who have emigrated like myself and live in multi racial societies are exposed to people from other cultures and races and some of them are bound to marry a person of another culture. In Somalia however, where the MAJORITY of somalis live, there are very few non somalis living in the country. So racial mixing doesnt go on that much because they are hardly any other races there. So you theory is flawed because most of the somali population come from 2 somali parent familes and not 1 somali parent/mixed raced familes and have done for generations so.
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I was talking about the ones that do let their children marry into different tribes.
very few. Somalia is still divided by Tribilsim. Why do you think our country is so poor and desturcted. All to do with Triblism and the wars that have been fought for it. The mentality is still there back home. A few familes in the west are more englighted, but still even in our communties in the west, theres still a divide. Again, from an outside perspective people dont see that. Familes still look down on other tribes, thinking theirs is superior and triying to pass that ish to their kids. Thankfully our generation are rejecting the old ways.
Anyways i dont know how we wound up talking about this, but if you look at SISTER NOOR's post, you'll see the answer. She was right. It has nothing to interacial marriage. Like she said, people have racist sterotype notions of all africans having corse hair, wide noses, very dark skin and because the somalis that some people have seen dont fit in that conventional steretype, you come up with some theroy that its down to somalis marrying other races. When in actually fact, you'll find many people in both north and south of somalia looking like west africans and see many other africans looking like us. Africa is diverse. The continent speaks for itself. Visit it and you'll see that.
We have some simalatires with Ethopians though, because parts of Somalia was once conjoined with Ethopia, being in the horn of africa. Plus our people are simalar as we both have Kushtic orgins, so our language, hertiage, looks are simalar along with the Ertierans as well. Ethopia also occupy regions of Somalia, so does Kenya and France (Djobuti) which were all once part of our country. Many of the orginal somalis are still in those parts and have been there for generations and with time, some of peole have merged together and adopted things from the occuping countries.
Anyways, its nice to see people interested in our language. Somali is not really hard (well the northern dialect isnt lol- no offense to reer xamars :smile: I love you all ) And Somali is written as to how it sounds- Phonetic, which makes it simple once you know how the alaphet sounds. Its always funny though hearing non somalis speak somali.
I remember, me and my friend used to teach the kids in our class somali, and all they wanted to know were the swear words. Anyways we taught them a few and and a couple decided to test it out on random somalis they saw on the street LOL. It was soo funny because one of them got clocked and they were scared stiff that they'd get knocked out LOL. They're reactions were soo funny
asalaamu alaikum sister halima
masha allah wonderful post but i gotta tell ya the reason why somali's look different from the rest of african people isint simply because of interacial marriages, this is something that has just surfaced recently i have to disagree with u because firstly the offspring from interacial marriages do not account for the entire somali nation but only a small percentage there for how is it possible for one to come to such a conclution secondly sister as a somali i have experienced the pressure of tribalistic family members and know that it isint easy even today here in the west for a somali sister to marry a nonsomali ...the majority of somali families here in the west are very seriouse about keeping their culture and feel threatened by allowing their daughters to marry other than their own kind so the fact that we look different cannot be summed up to the notion that it is due to the inter racial marriages that have become frequent in todays time
maa salaama
asalaamu alaikum sister halima
masha allah wonderful post but i gotta tell ya the reason why somali's look different from the rest of african people isint simply because of interacial marriages, this is something that has just surfaced recently i have to disagree with u because firstly the offspring from interacial marriages do not account for the entire somali nation but only a small percentage there for how is it possible for one to come to such a conclution secondly sister as a somali i have experienced the pressure of tribalistic family members and know that it isint easy even today here in the west for a somali sister to marry a nonsomali ...the majority of somali families here in the west are very seriouse about keeping their culture and feel threatened by allowing their daughters to marry other than their own kind so the fact that we look different cannot be summed up to the notion that it is due to the inter racial marriages that have become frequent in todays time
maa salaama
Jazakhallah Khairun thank you sister for the kinder words of dialouging with me I tend to stick to people that are more softer in their words when they want to get their point through. As for the somlais yes sister I totally agree that they do not want to let their culture go, because it is just like an Arab culture whereas it is a very conservative society.
Alhamdulilah it is so much better to retain your culture and not get involved with the other cultures to an extreme measure. One has to keep pride of their own culture/tribe even if its in the dumps. No one has to have a reason not to be proud of their own culture because for God's sakes that is where your parents came from and if you were not to be proud of your culture/ tribe then you would not be proud of your parents. This is how I look at it.
Nevertheless I humbly agree that Somalis have a conservative culture when indeed the fathers will be redundant and vigilant about marrying off their daughters to a foreign culture. I absolutely agree with this. In addition to this, the majority of somalis I would say are muslims therefore they already stand in the boundaries of obeying the Islamic marriage rules and the tenets of the faith. Nonethless I'm aware of Somalis, I have a limited knowledge about them, and I look foward to dialouging with you in hopes of learning more about the Somalian culture.:sister:
Asalamu Alaikum
masha allah thats great news to hear that u have interest in learning about somalis to be honest sister halima im not soooooooo amazingly educated about the depths and the origin of the somalis because i myself have been raised in the west (north america) alhumdulillah i speak somali fluenty and havent forgotten. Actually i speak a slightly differnt dialect origionally my family and i are from djibouti where 60% of the nations population are somalis so the dialect is a little different. its interesting to me how alot of people both somali and non somali seem to believe that dibouti
( which got its independance from FRANCE as recently as 1977) and somalia were one country at some point in time.THis is not true its a myth that a large amount of people believe to be truth.....its a controvercial topic tho but im as sure as the sun rose over my head this morning lol ive been in many heated debates on this topic specifically and it can get really frustrating sis i tell ya
anywhoo it was wonderful to recieve some feed back from u and i look forward to trying to help u understand the somalis (to the best of my knowlegde) hey where are u from maybe we can have a lil exchange of culteral info i love to meet and talk to people from different parts of the world i hope to travel everywhere one day all over africa and the middle east just to see the rest of the world and go back home and bask in the sun insha allah
maa salaama
How wonderful of you to not forget Somailan, it has truly amazed me how closely you have stuck to the Somalian language even when you are residing in North America. I find it utterly hard to believe that because talking from a cultural perspective many people bound to forget their native language once they emigrate to another country. Not trying to change the subject or anything, however, this phenomenon has occured to my brother on account of him emigrating to North America at merely 2 years old.
Then, he had forgotten his native language and switched to speaking English fluently instead. Under that circumstance, now whenever he goes back home, he has enormous difficulty conversating with friends and relatives. That is why I am proud of you for that dear sister. Your heritage is what counts the most. Nevertheless you are born with it and then you will die with it.
As for Somalia, I do know that it is a country in Africa, but what is the culture like over there? Is the culture more like an Arab culture? I would guess so because just like any culture that derives from Islam would be conversative yes? Therefore I would imagine the Somalians to be a bit conservative in society as it has been for thousand and thousands of years. This relates alot to me because I was orginally born in North America, although my parents are not American. They still hold on to their culture. Unlike me, I have grown and adapted to a different part of culture that is somewhat foreign to them.
My parents are Shuwa-Arab. Let me explain that to you. It's a minority tribe that's in Nigeria. This tribe has emigrated from Eygpt/Sudan to Nigeria for thousands and thousands of years. The shuwa people are Arabs. They are Normadic Arabs that move from place to place until they find a place to reside in. Now, my parents' parents found Nigeria to reside in. It is quite a shame I only have one Somalian friend and I rarely see her. I truly believe that if I have more then I will know more about the Somalian culture hence the langauge. I can go on and on but are you familiar with the Sudanese culture?
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) And Somali is written as to how it sounds- Phonetic, which makes it simple once you know how the alaphet sounds. Its always funny though hearing non somalis speak somali. 
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