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    Question:
    What is the ruling on kissing people on the cheek, apart from husband and wife? This phenomenon has become widespread among girls in school, to such an extent that two friends will exchange kisses every morning. I would like to know the Islamic ruling, with evidence, and the ruling on this strange phenomenon in particular.


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    Praise be to Allaah.

    What is prescribed when meeting is to say salaams and shake hands. If a person has come from a journey then it is prescribed to embrace him. As for kissing at every meeting, this is not part of the Sunnah of greeting, rather it is narrated that this is disallowed. Al-Tirmidhi narrated (2728) that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: A man said: O Messenger of Allaah, when one of us meets his brother or his friend, should he bow to him? He said: No. He said: Should he embrace him and kiss him? He said: No. He said: Should he take his hand and shake hands with him? He said: Yes. This hadeeth was classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi.

    Yes, kissing is prescribed on some occasions, when returning from a journey and the like. See question no. 34497.

    But as for exchanging kisses every morning, there is no doubt that this is not prescribed, and it is a strange phenomenon that is alien to Muslim societies. There is the fear that it may be taken as a means by those in whose hearts is a disease to engage in haraam physical pleasure within the framework of another phenomenon which is called admiration, which is undoubtedly a haraam kind of infatuation.

    Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    As for embracing and kissing the face of someone other than a person who has returned from travelling, etc – apart from a child – this is makrooh, as was clearly stated by al-Baghawi and others… As for a handsome beardless youth, it is haraam to kiss him under any circumstances, whether he is returning from a journey or not. It seems that embracing him is akin to kissing him, whether the one who is kissing or the one who is kissed are righteous or otherwise. End quote from al-Majmoo’, 4/477

    The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas were asked: There is the phenomenon of young men kissing one another on the cheeks every time they meet, every day. This phenomenon has also spread among old men, in the mosques and in the classrooms. Is this contrary to the Sunnah or is there nothing wrong with it? Is it a bid’ah or a sin or is it permissible?

    They replied:

    What is prescribed when meeting is to say salaam and shake hands, If the meeting is after a journey then it is prescribed to embrace as well, because it is narrated that Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) met, they would shake hands, and if they had come from a journey they would embrace. As for kissing the cheeks, we do not know of any Sunnah to indicate that. End quote.

    Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 24/128

    Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Silsilat al-Ahaadeeth al-Saheehah (1/74, hadeeth no. 160): This is the hadeeth of al-Tirmidhi that we mentioned at the beginning of our answer:

    In fact the hadeeth clearly states that kissing when meeting is not prescribed in Islam. That does not include kissing one's children or wife, as is obvious.

    With regard to the ahaadeeth which state that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kissed some of his companions on various occasions – such as when he kissed and embraced Zayd ibn Haarithah when he came to Madeenah, and when he embraced Abu’l-Haytham ibn al-Tayhaan, etc – the following points may be noted in response to that:

    1 – These are unsound ahaadeeth which cannot be taken as evidence.

    2 – Even if any of them were saheeh, it is not permissible to use them against this saheeh hadeeth, because it is an action on the part of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which may be interpreted as applying to a specific case or there may be some specific reason for that which makes this hadeeth unfit to be used as evidence, unlike this hadeeth, which is a verbal hadeeth that is addressed in general terms to the ummah as a whole, so it is string evidence which cannot be rejected. It is established in the field of usool that words take precedence over deeds in the event of a conflict, and the hadeeth which indicates a prohibition takes precedence over another which indicates permissibility. This hadeeth is verbal and indicates a prohibition, so it takes precedence over the other ahaadeeth mentioned even if they are saheeh.

    Similarly, with regard to hugging and embracing, we say that it is not prescribed because the hadeeth forbids it, but Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) met, they would shake hands, and if they had come from a journey they would embrace Narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Awsat, and its men are the men of saheeh, as stated by al-Mundhiri (3/270), and al-Bayhaqi, 8/36

    Al-Bayhaqi (7/100) narrated with a saheeh isnaad from al-Sha’bi that when the companions of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) met, they would shake hands, and when they came from a journey they would embrace one another.

    Al-Bukhaari narrated in al-Adab al-Mufrad (970), and Ahmad narrated (3/495) that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah said: I heard that a man knew a hadeeth and had heard it from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). I bought a camel, loaded my luggage onto it, and traveled for a month until I came to Syria, where I found ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Unays. I said to the doorkeeper: Tell him: Jaabir is at the door. He said: Ibn ‘Abd-Allaah? I said: Yes. He came out tripping on his garment and he embraced me and I embraced him… Its isnaad is hasan as stated by al-Haafiz, 1/195. al-Bukhaari narrated it among the mu’aalaq reports.

    So it may be said that embracing in the case of a journey is exempted from the prohibition, because the Sahaabah did that. End quote.

    And Allaah knows best.

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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

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    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    Of course it is, the hadeeth prohibiting it are mentioned.

    Al-Tirmidhi narrated (2728) that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: A man said: O Messenger of Allaah, when one of us meets his brother or his friend, should he bow to him? He said: No. He said: Should he embrace him and kiss him? He said: No. He said: Should he take his hand and shake hands with him? He said: Yes. This hadeeth was classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi.

    Once Allah and His messenger have issued a matter a believer should have no opinion or say after it. [Qur'an]
    i dont know a scholar might interpret this hadith completely different. first of all there was no clear mention of women in this hadith because a man was asking the question. to be honest this is the first time i ever heard that women cant kiss each other on the cheek when i constantly see sisters doing it all the time then how is this?

    So lets get our interpretations correct first before giving any fatwas on it i think.

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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by cat eyes View Post
    i dont know a scholar might interpret this hadith completely different. first of all there was no clear mention of women in this hadith because a man was asking the question. to be honest this is the first time i ever heard that women cant kiss each other on the cheek when i constantly see sisters doing it all the time then how is this?

    So lets get our interpretations correct first before giving any fatwas on it i think.

    JazakAllah
    Many times in al-Qur'aan Allah addresses the men but does this exclude women? No it does not because it implies men and women both. Unless something is specifically mentioned for women then the ruling may be different such as after divorce a woman has to observe the prescribed waiting period, or during menses she cannot pray or offer certain acts of worship. This is not applicable to men. Similarly jihad is not obligatory upon women, nor is the friday jumu'ah prayer but it is upon men.

    Secondly the majority is not proof that something is correct. The vast majority of people around the world, which include Muslims, commit major sins like adultery and gambling but does that justify its acceptability in Islam? Many women also know not to gossip and backbite but they still do it, does that mean Islam approves of it just because majority of women do it? It's highly likely that most women have made this a practice among themselves out of ignorance.

    It does not matter if you hear a hadeeth now or when you are on your death bed at the age of 110, the fact of the matter is that once a hadeeth has come to you it is obligatory upon you to follow it. if you did not hear of it before than you've heard of it now. There is no ambiguity or uncertainty in this hadeeth so I don't see any dire need for an interpretation when the meaning is simple and clear. There are of course exceptions when one is allowed to hug and kiss someone but it is clearly prohibited to do it as a regular practice. This is why the title is addressed to women because they have made it a custom and a common practice despite its prohibition.
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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    I always notice that girls kiss more than guys ? I do not understand , everyone should do the same. If boys shake hands generally, the same should be done with girls, no discrimination and everyone should be treated equally, so for girls, I agree with this text.

    However, I should add that Allah said that "Innama al a3malou binniat" which means that if we have no bad intention our deeds wouldn't matter, as kissing becomes simply a respectful, friendly and cheerful way to say hello.
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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by Musliman View Post
    I always notice that girls kiss more than guys ? I do not understand , everyone should do the same. If boys shake hands generally, the same should be done with girls, no discrimination and everyone should be treated equally, so for girls, I agree with this text.

    However, I should add that Allah said that "Innama al a3malou binniat" which means that if we have no bad intention our deeds wouldn't matter, as kissing becomes simply a respectful, friendly and cheerful way to say hello.
    How can you justify something that the Prophet has forbidden by good intentions?
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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    How can you justify something that the Prophet has forbidden by good intentions?
    Could you just assure me the authenticity of this hadith ? I don't kiss myself anyone and I do it rarely, still, I do not find a justifiable reason not to do so, as I said again, it deals with your feelings and intentions, it happens to me to kiss a friend of mom for example who is older than me and is respectable for the first time, I don't see the problem with it, and I don't think that Allah will judge me for this.
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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by Musliman View Post
    Could you just assure me the authenticity of this hadith ? I don't kiss myself anyone and I do it rarely, still, I do not find a justifiable reason not to do so, as I said again, it deals with your feelings and intentions, it happens to me to kiss a friend of mom for example who is older than me and is respectable for the first time, I don't see the problem with it, and I don't think that Allah will judge me for this.
    The hadeeth is in Tirmidhi and ibn Maajah and the website that I quoted this from is by Shaylh Saalid Al-Munajjid, the student of Shaykh AbdulAzeez Ibn Baaz.

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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    The hadeeth is in Tirmidhi and ibn Maajah and the website that I quoted this from is by Shaylh Saalid Al-Munajjid, the student of Shaykh AbdulAzeez Ibn Baaz.

    If a hadeeth has come to you and you ignore it, it will add to your accountability on the day of judgment.
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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by Musliman View Post
    Could you just assure me the authenticity of this hadith ? I don't kiss myself anyone and I do it rarely, still, I do not find a justifiable reason not to do so, as I said again, it deals with your feelings and intentions, it happens to me to kiss a friend of mom for example who is older than me and is respectable for the first time, I don't see the problem with it, and I don't think that Allah will judge me for this.
    i won't doubt the chain of that hadith coz Sheikh Albaani has classified it as hasan....so now i know...jazakullahu khair for the brother who pointed out that hadith...
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    Re: Female students kissing one another every day

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    The hadeeth is in Tirmidhi and ibn Maajah and the website that I quoted this from is by Shaylh Saalid Al-Munajjid, the student of Shaykh AbdulAzeez Ibn Baaz.

    If a hadeeth has come to you and you ignore it, it will add to your accountability on the day of judgment.

    There is nothing wrong with asking about the authenticity of a certain hadith brother or asking for another scholarly view on it. where dose Allah say you will be held accountable for this?

    its better to ask innit then finding out later that its a weak hadith

    as i said many women do it and if thats the case half the world is sinning? reason why so many other members are questioning it here

    and no you can not just read any hadith yourself.. you must read the interpretation on it from a scholars view the same goes for the holy Qur'an, you need the tafsir to understand the surah's.

    you are saying that people should make there own conclusions on hadith evidence.. which is wrong advice to give to anybody muslim or non muslim

    i will be looking in to more info on this hadith to make sure.
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