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    Can We Write “SAW” or “PBUH” When we Mention the Prophet and Messenger of Allah?


    Posted on August 31, 2011 by admin
    Originally published: 06-06-1423 [1]


    In the Name of Allaah, may the Salaah and Salaam of Allaah be upon His Final Messenger, to proceed:


    Muslims are obliged to send Allaah’s Salaah [2] and Salaam [3] upon Muhammad (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) when his name is mentioned. Allaah has commanded us [4]:


    ( Verily Allaah and His Angels send salaah on the Prophet. O you who believe! Invoke salaah upon him, as well as a complete salaam! )


    And the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) said:


    “For each time someone invokes salaah upon me, Allaah writes for him ten good rewards because of it.” [5]


    And the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) had described the one who does not send salaah upon him when he is mentioned as “the stingiest of people.” [6] And he exclaimed “Aameen!” to Jibreel’s supplication, “May Allaah repel the one who hears mention of you and does not invoke any salaah upon you!” [7]


    So here is the issue that needs to be clarified: Many people use the abbreviation “SAW,” “SAWS,” or “PBUH” to fulfill this obligation in their writing. Is this something that fulfills the obligation of sending the salaah and salaam on the Messenger? Let us look now to some of the statements of the scholars regarding this practice.


    The Permanent Committee of Scholars in Saudi Arabia headed by ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abdillaah ibn Baaz issued the following verdict when asked about the validity of abbreviating the salaah on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam): “The Sunnah is to write the entire phrase “sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam,” since it is a kind of supplication, and supplication is worship, (in one’s writing) just as it is in one’s speech. So to abbreviate it using the letter SAAD or the word SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM is not a supplication nor is it worship, whether it occurs in speech or writing. For this reason, this abbreviation was not used by the the first three generations, those that the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) testified to their goodness.” [8]


    “SAAD” and “SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM” are often used in some Arabic books. The English equivalents of these abbreviations would be: SAW, SAWS, SAAWS, PBUH, and the likes.


    Al-Fayrooz-Abaadee said, “It is not appropriate to use symbols or abbreviations to refer to salaah and salaam, as some of the lazy ones do, as well as some ignorant people and even some students of knowledge – they write ‘SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM’ instead of writing ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [9]


    Ahmad Shaakir said, “It is the absurd tradition of some of the later generations that they abbreviate the writing of ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [10]


    Wasee Allaah ‘Abbaas said, “It is not permissible to abbreviate the salaams in general in one’s writing, just as it is not permissible to abbreviate the salaah and salaam on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam). It is also not permissible to abbreviate either of these in one’s speech.” [11]


    And Allaah knows best. May the most perfect and complete salaah and salaam be upon our beloved Messenger, and upon his noble family and companions.
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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    Splitting hairs over non issues.

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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Splitting hairs over non issues.

    Scimi
    But why would anyone want to miss out on the rewards that are available for this Sunnah?
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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation



    I have a question:

    what is meant by "sending salams and salaahs upon the Prophet Muhammad SAW"?

    format_quote Originally Posted by crimsontide06 View Post
    Muslims are obliged to send Allaah’s Salaah
    What Allah's Salaah?? Allah has no salaah, audhu billah. Please explain this to me, astaghfirgullah..................
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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ummshareef View Post
    But why would anyone want to miss out on the rewards that are available for this Sunnah?
    Who said we were?

    I'd rather write Peace be upon him and his family - abbrecviated in English for an English speaking forum, then write Arabic.

    The intention when I write PBUH does not change - just some letters do.

    Had no idea Arabic was holy it's just a language.

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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    I have a question:

    what is meant by "sending salams and salaahs upon the Prophet Muhammad SAW"?



    What Allah's Salaah?? Allah has no salaah, audhu billah. Please explain this to me, astaghfirgullah..................


    What the writter meant with "salaah" actually is shalawat. Maybe mistyping.
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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    its a constant misspelling.

    would confuse the heck out of me.


    return to sender.

    from website...

    [2] Sending salaah on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) means that one invokes Allaah to praise him and mention his high status to the angels. See Jalaa’ Al-Afhaam (p.253) of Ibn Al-Qayyim, Fat-hul-Baaree (11/179-197) of Ibn Hajr, or Ibn Katheer’s tafseer to verse 33:56.


    see, this is why i dont do internet..

    *throws phone out the window*

    id be content in "saw" and "pbuh" and darood sharif..in one of its many guises.

    33:56 as mentioned above.

    Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace.


    well... that went well.
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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    I have a question:

    what is meant by "sending salams and salaahs upon the Prophet Muhammad SAW"?



    What Allah's Salaah?? Allah has no salaah, audhu billah. Please explain this to me, astaghfirgullah..................
    Salaah has many different meanings, linguistically. The meaning changes depending on who it is referring to.

    The linguistic meaning of Salaah is Du`aa. Allaah Ta`aalaa says in the Qur'aan:

    إن الله وملائكة يصلون على النبي

    "Indeed, Allaah and His Malaa'ikah send Salaah upon an-Nabi" صلى الله عليه وسلم.

    So what does this mean? Of course, if a person does not know Arabic, he will become confused. Muslims who who do not know Arabic know only one meaning for "Salaah", and that is the `Ibaadah performed five times a day. However, that is the Shar`i meaning of Salaah. The Lughawi (linguistic) meanings are different. One linguistic meaning is Du`aa. When we say the Malaa'ikah send Salaah upon Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم, what we mean is that they ask Allaah Ta`aalaa to raise his rank. When we are sending Salaah upon Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم as well, what is meant by this is what we ask Allaah Ta`aalaa to raise his rank. When Allaah Ta`aalaa sends Salaah upon Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم, what it means is that Allaah raises his rank. That is the difference in meaning.
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    I copied and pasted, idk what the writer meant with that
    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    I have a question:

    what is meant by "sending salams and salaahs upon the Prophet Muhammad SAW"?



    What Allah's Salaah?? Allah has no salaah, audhu billah. Please explain this to me, astaghfirgullah..................
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    Re: Thoughts? Writing out "pbuh"..etc rather than the abbreviation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    I have a question:

    what is meant by "sending salams and salaahs upon the Prophet Muhammad SAW"?


    It means, saying Sallallaahu 'Alaihi wa sallam (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) after the name of Prophet Muhammad .

    That is actually the short version. The complete is to say Allahumma Salli 'Ala Muhammadin wa 'Ala aali Muhammadin kama Sallaita 'Ala Ibraheema wa 'Ala aali Ibraheema innaka HameedumMajeed ... until the end as you say at the end in prayer just before Salam.
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    SubhanAllah, the more you know!

    JazakAllah khayr brothers! And Allah knows best. may Allah unite us all in Jannah as brothers, Ameen.
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