Music Haram or Not

**Z65** · 03-04-2006

I jus want to know if listening to music is Haram , i dont listen to bad lyrics n rock bands , i jus listen to light music

**DaSangarTalib** · 03-08-2006

Originally Posted by Pagal Kuri

U people are going off the point... What evidence is there in the Qur'an and the Hadith that Music is Haraam.. ?

Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah

The Prohibition

The Noble Qur'an - Luqman 31:6

And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-Fire).

Ibn Masood (ra) said about this verse "I swear by the One other than Whom there is no God that it refers to singing [ghinaa].", and he repeated this three times. Ibn Abbaas (ra) said it refered to 'singing and the like' while Jaabir (ra) is reported to view its meaning to signify singing and listening to songs. Many taabi'oon such as Mujaahid, Ikrimah, Mak-hool and Umar ibn Shu'ayb viewed it as a censure of music and song.

Hadith - Bukhari (#787) [Also related by Tabari]

Sa'id ibn Jbayr reported that Ibn 'Abbas said about the verse: "And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks" (31:6), that, "ldle talks means singing and the like."

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Isra 17:64

"And Istafiz [literally means: befool them gradually] those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and other call for Allah's disobedience)..."

Hadith - Bukhari 7:494

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the use of musical instruments as lawful. And (from them), there will be some who will stay near the side of a mountain, and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and Allah will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

The Noble Qur'an - An-Najm 53:57-62

The Day of Resurrection draws near, None besides Allah can avert it, (or advance it, or delay it). Do you then wonder at this recital (the Qur'an)? And you laugh at it and weep not, Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing, etc.). So fall you down in prostration to Allah, and worship Him (Alone).

‘Ikrimah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: it was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that al-sumood [verbal noun from saamidoon, translated here as “Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)”] means “singing”, in the dialect of Himyar; it might be said “Ismidi lanaa” [‘sing for us’ – from the same root as saamidoon/sumood] meaning “ghaniy” [sing]. And he said (may Allaah have mercy on him): When they [the kuffaar] heard the Qur’aan, they would sing, then this aayah was revealed.
Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Allah says (interpretation of the meaning) “Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)” – Sufyaan al-Thawri said, narrating from his father from Ibn ‘Abbaas: (this means) singing. This is Yemeni (dialect): ismad lana means ghan lana [sing to us]. This was also the view of ‘Ikrimah. (Tafseer Ibn Katheer).

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**Hijaabi22** · 03-08-2006

Originally Posted by czgibson

Greetings,

No I'm not, hence the word 'Atheist' appearing prominently in my profile.

Well, I thought you might be prepared to discuss your beliefs with an outsider, but evidently not. You're free to believe whatever you like, of course, there's no question of disrespect here - it's not for me, that's all. I value intellectual independence and freedom of thought. If you don't, that's your business.

I'm an atheist, not a nihilist. You should think about learning more about ideas different to yours before you start telling people what they do or don't believe.

Peace

**Muhammad** · 03-08-2006

This issue keeps on cropping up on this forum, and I would advise members to look through the other threads on music as well as this one, if they wish to read more about what has been said.

Such issues that require knowledge to be discussed, and can cause dispute mongst members, are not allowed on this forum - hence our rule:

12. This is not a Fiqh discussion board. Prolonged threads arguing over Fatwas and the details of Islamic law will be closed. Avoid asking questions that require a Scholar or Shaykh, as there is no one on the board qualified to answer your questions. Please use other knowledgeable means such as a scholar, Imam or knowledgeable person in your area or provide sources.

Our aim here is to educate people about Islam and promote its practice, not to take the role of scholars. Insha'Allaah we can appreciate this and try our best to follow the correct way, and shun our desires from making such a decision.

Callum, I think the following link clarifies the issue of imitating non-Muslims:

Ruling on imitating the kuffaar, and the meaning of the phrase, “What the Muslims think is good is good before Allaah”

Peace.

**mahuruf** · 03-08-2006

Thread Closed

As'salamu Alaikum

Thread can be closed to avoid conflicts in Islamic fundamental principles. But when an issue is raised challenging that principle, until the doubts are cleared it would be beneficial to all if continued. I am referring to the thread “Music Haram or Not?”

Wasalaam

**Muhammad** · 03-08-2006

The reason why the thread in question, and others like it, were closed, is due to a number of reasons.

The most important is probably the fact that people with little knowledge are discussing issues that require knowledge to be addressed in the first place. You will notice that one of the Q&A quoted in this thread (from Islamqa) actually pointed out this fact:

Originally Posted by post#147

it is not permissible for anyone to discuss matters of sharee’ah except scholars of sharee’ah who are specialized and qualified to research and examine issues.

Secondly, rather than reaching a conclusion, these threads often tend to continue endlessly despite the fact that many evidences and references have already been cited (and you will note this thread has reached 13 pages!); people still continue to argue the other opinion and do not wish to change their views. This forum does not specialise in dealing with such issues, otherwise we may have allowed such discussions and tried to clarify them had we been qualified people of knowledge, but unfortunately we are not and we deal with more basic and fundamental aims such as conveying the message of Islam and clarifying misconceptions about it, as I mentioned above.

There is also the problem of people forgetting the issue at hand and going off-topic, and you will note how people began talking about Islamic contributions to the west, nasheed artists' lives; in addition to people getting upset and others revealing their sins in public; then you have some people who feel they are qualified to issue a fatwah by saying what they feel is the most correct stance and why it cannot possibly go against their views... the list can go on.

All in all, I do not think a conclusion is going to be reached some time soon since every now and again somebody seems to bring up an argument that was already brought up 10 pages earlier and the whole discussion keep going round in circles; so I hope you can understand that we find it best to close such threads and people are advised to contact a scholar if they are still confused.

Lastly, it would be better to contact staff via pm if you feel there is a problem with the rules Insha'Allaah.