Sis I was referrin 2 the czgibson post not yours.... I totally understand where u cumin 4rm sis, AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR REVERTIN!!! Mashaallah I didnt know that!! May allah(swt) make you a guid pious muslim and guide you upon the straight path always...
And sis the whole music issue is kimda complicated as there are so many differein views....it jus offends me when ppl like czgibson mock our religion when they dont know anythin about it!!!!!
it jus offends me when ppl like czgibson mock our religion when they dont know anythin about it!!!!!
Why are you offended and in what way am I mocking your religion? Aamirsaab has given a sensible response - you've chosen to get offended for some reason. Why would that be?
(Also, I don't think it's entirely fair to say that I "dont know anythin about it". Maybe I don't know as much about Islam as you do, but I know much more about it than the average kaffir.)
Why are you offended and in what way am I mocking your religion? Aamirsaab has given a sensible response - you've chosen to get offended for some reason. Why would that be?
(Also, I don't think it's entirely fair to say that I "dont know anythin about it". Maybe I don't know as much about Islam as you do, but I know much more about it than the average kaffir.)
Peace
but at the end of the day wot r u talkin abwt the DEAL:grumbling :grumbling
but at the end of the day wot r u talkin abwt the DEAL:grumbling :grumbling
that's wot we dn't undastand
take care
When you converted to Islam you were accepting a form of deal, one where you were not familiar with all the terms. That's all I was saying. Sorry if you think it sounds disrespectful.
I think what Czgibson meant was that when sister Islamgyal converted/reverted (whatever) to Islam, noone had told her about the rulings. The "Deal" part i believe was meant as a non-offensive joke which very strangely somehow managed to offend some members.
I am positive that Czgibson intended no harm with his posts, perhaps if people read his posts carefully and didn't retaliate with a knee-jerk reaction they'd see that he hasn't put a foot wrong since joining the forum.
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
When you converted to Islam you were accepting a form of deal, one where you were not familiar with all the terms. That's all I was saying. Sorry if you think it sounds disrespectful.
I think what Czgibson meant was that when sister Islamgyal converted/reverted (whatever) to Islam, noone had told her about the rulings. The "Deal" part i believe was meant as a non-offensive joke which very strangely somehow managed to offend some members.
I am positive that Czgibson intended no harm with his posts, perhaps if people read his posts carefully and didn't retaliate with a knee-jerk reaction they'd see that he hasn't put a foot wrong since joining the forum.
i said am sori to em and btw we do read his post's propley :grumbling :grumbling
When you converted to Islam you were accepting a form of deal, one where you were not familiar with all the terms. That's all I was saying. Sorry if you think it sounds disrespectful.
Peace
Sorry to butt in.. but I want to clear that misconception. There is no such deal. A non-muslim can know more about islam than a born muslim. Most converts study Islam before accepting it and because of that, sometimes know more than born muslims who've not studied it. Being a revert is no excuse for not knowing, just like being a born muslim doesnt make you a know-it-all.
Sorry to butt in.. but I want to clear that misconception. There is no such deal. A non-muslim can know more about islam than a born muslim. Most converts study Islam before accepting it and because of that, sometimes know more than born muslims who've not studied it. Being a revert is no excuse for not knowing, just like being a born muslim doesnt make you a know-it-all.
peace
plz try ta undastand am saying diz from my point ov view i don't knw abwt diz
plz plz plz try ta undastand :grumbling :grumbling
"There will be earthquakes, hurling away and transformation in my nation and that will be when they drink alcohol and take female singers and play music”
Early scholars like Imaam Ahmad prohibited the use of amusement instruments and strings such as the lute, mandolin, cymbal, reed flute and rebab. No doubt musical and amusement instrument in this group includes instrument like the violin, piano etc., which is widespread these days. Music intoxicates more than wine as said by scholars such as Ibn Qayyim and others. The prohibition becomes greater when the music is accompanied with songs and voices of singers and pop stars. The seriousness aggravates when the words and expression of love, passion and description of lovely things. This is the reason why scholars say songs are conduit of fornication. Music and songs are agents of temptation especially in this age.
"There will be earthquakes, hurling away and transformation in my nation and that will be when they drink alcohol and take female singers and play music”
Early scholars like Imaam Ahmad prohibited the use of amusement instruments and strings such as the lute, mandolin, cymbal, reed flute and rebab. No doubt musical and amusement instrument in this group includes instrument like the violin, piano etc., which is widespread these days. Music intoxicates more than wine as said by scholars such as Ibn Qayyim and others. The prohibition becomes greater when the music is accompanied with songs and voices of singers and pop stars. The seriousness aggravates when the words and expression of love, passion and description of lovely things. This is the reason why scholars say songs are conduit of fornication. Music and songs are agents of temptation especially in this age.
plz try ta undastand am saying diz from my point ov view i don't knw abwt diz
plz plz plz try ta undastand :grumbling :grumbling
take care
lol sis, what's the matter with you? My reply was to czgibson, not you. I'm not saying ur supposed to know, ok? I was merely saying to czgibson that even born muslims wont know until they learn, hence there is no deal. And the reason I said that was because he asked you if you hadn't known of the deal.. lol relax girl.. no one is putting u down.. if born muslims knew everything then why would they be asking so many q's on the forum.. understand?? I posted u a link anyway to help you not to put you down :sister:
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Sis I was referrin 2 the czgibson post not yours.... I totally understand where u cumin 4rm sis, AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR REVERTIN!!! Mashaallah I didnt know that!! May allah(swt) make you a guid pious muslim and guide you upon the straight path always...
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