i like dancing oriental music much and i like watching those who dance on the tv. i dont let anyone sees me except some of my intimate sisters. i love dancing but not regularly bc this helps me to have a good shape. but sometimes when i dance, though no one sees me, feel ashamed of myself and sometimes i stop dancing. im not sure if this haram or no. by the way, i dancing does not make me neglect my prayers nor reading quran. i dance in my leisure time.
ok i think everything haram in islam, what is halal then.
u know sth, years ago i was very religious, i didnt listen to music nor shake hands with men, and i was the only one in my family. on day, i was fed up and took off my hijab.
after 4 years, i repnted and di hijab again. but i never stop prayin since i had 13 years. now, im religious i try to do halal but i dont want to deprive myself from everything bc im not like you, i can feel supreesed like that. in my country, some people do not pray, dont even worship Allah.
most girls have boyfriends and have sex. and bc i fear Allah, i dont do like them though i want this very much. i fight this carnal soul. so there are many things we should not do.
you use really cruel words, god will turn people who listen to music to pigs and monkeys, am i killing people, am i worshipping anything except God?
please, everything should be done gradually step by step.
we are human beings after all and we live in a world full of "fitna" and corruption. its hard to be 100 percent pure from sins.
ok i think everything haram in islam, what is halal then.
u know sth, years ago i was very religious, i didnt listen to music nor shake hands with men, and i was the only one in my family. on day, i was fed up and took off my hijab.
after 4 years, i repnted and di hijab again. but i never stop prayin since i had 13 years. now, im religious i try to do halal but i dont want to deprive myself from everything bc im not like you, i can feel supreesed like that. in my country, some people do not pray, dont even worship Allah.
most girls have boyfriends and have sex. and bc i fear Allah, i dont do like them though i want this very much. i fight this carnal soul. so there are many things we should not do.
you use really cruel words, god will turn people who listen to music to pigs and monkeys, am i killing people, am i worshipping anything except God?
please, everything should be done gradually step by step.
we are human beings after all and we live in a world full of "fitna" and corruption. its hard to be 100 percent pure from sins.
Salaam
I understand, but when something has been clearly been pointed out to you to be haraam, then it's the fault of the person, and their's no excuse for that.
islamgyl, who do u rfer to when yu say evil red? u r commitin a sin by saying so.
bro sami yusuf is religious man who spreads islam by giving a good example of islam. his songs touch the heart of many people and many have converted to islam because of him.
salaam!
Although sami yusuf nasheeds have mindblowing lyrics, man i never approved the haram music he uses, ie >>>PIANO!!<< :grumbling
Allah said, what translated means, And of mankind he who purchases idle talks to mislead (people) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah) by way of mockery, For such there will be a humiliating torment. [3 1:6].
Al-Wahidi, along with other scholars of Tafsir (explaining the Quran), said that "Idle Talk" in this Ayah is singing. The following companions gave this Tafsir: Ibn Abbas, Ibn Masud, Mujahid and Ikrimah. Ibn Masud said, "By Allah, whom there is no God except Him, idle talk is singing."
The Prophet said, what translated means, "From among my nation, there will be people who will render as lawful adultery, weaving silk (for men), Al-Khamr (liquor) and AlMaa'azif (musical instruments)." [Al-Bukhari].
This Hadith states that musical instruments are Haram, and there is no disagreement among the scholars on this. In his book, Ighathat Al-Lahfan, Ibn Al-Qayyim said, "When the Prophet said, 'render as lawful,' he meant that it was unlawful, then the people made it lawful."
Abu Hurayrah narrated that the Prophet said, what translated means, group of this nation will be transformed into monkeys and swine." They said, "Do not they testify that there is no god except Allah and that Mohammed is His Messenger?" He said, "Yes.
Many Muslims today render music as permissible. This is due to their ignorance or outright defiance of the religion. We ask Allah that we are among those who listen to the speech and follow the best of what it contains. These are the ones whom Allah has guided and granted them the bounty of sanity and comprehending minds, ameeen
MUSIC IS HARAM >>>>FULL STOP!!<<<<
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ok i think everything haram in islam, what is halal then.
Are you serious
format_quote Originally Posted by ivanna25
u know sth, years ago i was very religious, i didnt listen to music nor shake hands with men, and i was the only one in my family. on day, i was fed up and took off my hijab.
Allah has given you a test. Not having relgious relatives is not a reason to go against Allah. Remember you will be rewarded
format_quote Originally Posted by ivanna25
i dont want to deprive myself from everything bc im not like you, i can feel supreesed like that. in my country, some people do not pray, dont even worship Allah.
What do you mean you are not like ___?
Allah has given avery person the strenght to bear the hardships.
format_quote Originally Posted by ivanna25
most girls have boyfriends and have sex. and bc i fear Allah, i dont do like them though i want this very much.
I am sorry you feel like this. I advise you to read about the consequences of zinnah and to learn how to control yourself.
format_quote Originally Posted by ivanna25
I fight this carnal
Good for you keep it up
format_quote Originally Posted by ivanna25
you use really cruel words, god will turn people who listen to music to pigs and monkeys, am i killing people, am i worshipping anything except God?
These things are mentioned to scare a beliver from committing the acts
Ivanna, there is absolutely nothing wrong with music. No where in the Quran did God say music or dancing is forbidden. You need to read the Quran in its entirety on your own and reflect.
God turns people into pigs and monkeys for listening to music? So says WHO? Not God Himself! Ivanna; as I said above, you need to read the Quran to know what God really wishes of us. If you look at your faith as a mere set of dos and don'ts-- a mechanical habit-- then you don't have a true understanding of Islam although you believe you have been following it. As to the ways of nonbelievers, there are things they do that you must disregard.
Ivanna, It's sounds as though you feel supressed by Islam maybe you should read to undersatnd more about it because the benefits of being a muslim outweigh the concequences of the day of judgement.
ok i think everything haram in islam, what is halal then.
u know sth, years ago i was very religious, i didnt listen to music nor shake hands with men, and i was the only one in my family. on day, i was fed up and took off my hijab.
after 4 years, i repnted and di hijab again. but i never stop prayin since i had 13 years. now, im religious i try to do halal but i dont want to deprive myself from everything bc im not like you, i can feel supreesed like that. in my country, some people do not pray, dont even worship Allah.
most girls have boyfriends and have sex. and bc i fear Allah, i dont do like them though i want this very much. i fight this carnal soul. so there are many things we should not do.
you use really cruel words, god will turn people who listen to music to pigs and monkeys, am i killing people, am i worshipping anything except God?
please, everything should be done gradually step by step.
we are human beings after all and we live in a world full of "fitna" and corruption. its hard to be 100 percent pure from sins.[/quote]
Salam sis.
I can tell from some comments in your post you feel very overwhelmed by everything in Islam, but don't be. Things need to be taken step by step (like you said ) and insha'Allah it'll all be fine.
The general consensus of the scholars is that music is haram. But as humans, we could never just STOP listening to music overnight. Try and find alternative halal music and slowly start listening, Zain Bhika, Dawud Wharnsby, Ahmed Bukhtair etc... They all have halal and excellent songs.
ok i think everything haram in islam, what is halal then.
Only the things not beneficial to us as Muslims are haram. We're being offered something so great and so peaceful. Salah, with khushoo and earnest love for Allah is one of the most amazing joys given to mankind. The amazing peace and love and happiness we can develop from Salah outweighs the pleasure of this world so much.
They say you only live once - that's a lie. You live twice. This world is nothing but pomp and glitter, and Allah really does love us, and he is trying through his messengers and his books and his signs to guide us to his love and his pleasure and to the best of 'life'. In the hereafter sister, you will have whatever you desire. If you want music then Allah will give you music that will fill your heart and be beyond anything you could imagine on this earth. Please don't lose heart or faith sis.
most girls have boyfriends and have sex. and bc i fear Allah, i dont do like them though i want this very much. i fight this carnal soul. so there are many things we should not do.
This is so common around the world but in Islam it is forbidden - not because Allah wants to deprive us of joy, it is because Allah is trying to give us the best of this life. What is worth more? Sex with near-stranger, or sex with your husband (or wife) which is worth so much more. Allah wants us to have the best in this world and the hereafter. Ask perhaps a revert sister who lived a life of casual sex, drinking, music and clubbing - ask her if she really enjoyed? If she really had peace? If she felt happy?
please, everything should be done gradually step by step.
we are human beings after all and we live in a world full of "fitna" and corruption. its hard to be 100 percent pure from sins.
Wallahi sis they are wise words. We will never be free of sins, but we can be forgiven of them. If we often seek forgiveness of Allah (earnestly) then Allah will rid us of the sins and faults we have.
Ivanna, there is absolutely nothing wrong with music. No where in the Quran did God say music or dancing is forbidden. You need to read the Quran in its entirety on your own and reflect.
what the.....
It may not say anything in the Quran about music. But definately does in hadiths. There are many to prove that. And a muslim is not a muslim if he does not believe in the sunnah of our beloved Prophet (saws)
sarah999, what u mean by i have to read moire about islam? and i m suppressesd? im not supressed. ok? im free to do what i like, if i want to do haram, no one will stop me, on the contrary, i will find people to encourage me. Im fully convinced that Islam is the best religion in the world. i feel happy in it but we must suffer, we cant be happy 100% and satisfied. the prophet Mohamed (PBUH) sais: " this earthly life is a prison to believer and a paradise to the disbeleiver). what does his mean? this means that the belever has a limited freedom in this life, he can t do what he likes, and that the one who disbelieves in God will be in a paradise in the sense that everything is permissible.
i know a great deal bout Islam and im still searching. ok? everyday, i listen to lectures by Muslim scholars either in english or in arabic.
Muslim soldier, i know the consequences of zinnah very well, i think you didnt read my msg very well. i said though i want do sex but i cant do it because I fear Allah. ok? because i know the bad consequences of haram, i dont do it. the best thing is to avoid doing sth u love for the sake of Allah.
yes, my brothers and sister, to be a true Muslim means to suffer sometimes. but nice sufferance. I want to do many things but i dont do them because i know that Gop, Who i love, is watching me all the time, and that two angels are in my both sides noting down everything i say, do, and think about. im aware of all this.
God gives me beauty and i protect it from haram by wearing respectful clothes and im modern and sometimes fashionable following the conditions of the right hijab. i really need man much and i already love my collegue at work and when he is next to me giving me instruactions, i suffer inside. why? because i love and i want him, but i cant do haram with him. im proud of myself because im able to control my self. in fact, not because im strong, but because know that i fear him and He helps me. at home, in my bedroom, i cry alone because i really need someone i love to share with him everything but at the same time i feel happiness deep inside of me because im suffering in order to satisfy Allah.
ok, everyone will say, then get married. well, in this life, not everything we want can be achieved. there were some few guys asking me for marriage, but most of them do not pray or they do not give religion priority in their life. i cant get married with someone who doesnt give priority to God and Mohammed. and now im in love, ( loving a man not haram since i dont lmet his touch my hand) because when u say lovin someone who is not your husabdn haram means that you want to eradicate human feelings too. well, im in love and i ,pray to god that if this man is a good person to me , let him come to ask me for marriage. i rely on God, if sth or someone i lobne does not come to me, i immediately believe that he is not good for me and i pray to God thinking.
there should be a relation with your God, there should be love with your Lord. not everyhting haram, haram. islam is a religion that permits do what we want but we should follow the rules. islam is not suppression of love feelings and desires but regulating them.
we have to use our brains. we dont have to take the teaching of Islam literally, and the difference is always allowed and this what gives meaning to life. what will happen if i listen to music? since i choose the kind of music i listen to and since i dont watch the video clips which call to "radila" or haram. Allah forbids only the things that may harm us. music has a good effect on us and on plants too.
im a muslim girl who wants to follow the path of Allah and not to do haram but i have my own world, a small one. my small family ( mum and brother), my job ( commercial agent), my small bed room and my PC. i read Quran, read it , listen to lectures, read the explanation of Quran, discuss islam with people, pray on time, remmeber God but ... i watch sometimes science fiction movies, cartoons, listen to nice music, dance in my bed room and sing. what s the problem, im happy like this, im sure no harm in this. u know what my friends do? everyday, they go out with their boyfriends and have sex with them; they smoke and even drink; go to dance in disco. they dont pray and many things. i have the freedome they have but i dont like to be like them because i know that i may die anytime.
so u r wrong to think i dont understand islam. islam is a religion encourages reading about the whole world and the universe, islam is religion of helpin the poor and a religion of working hard and know the meaning of the money you gain from halla way, not just dont listen to music; otherwise ull turn to pig and monckeys.
Ivanna it is important to know that we cant adapt Islam to adjust to our own beliefs. We follow the Quran and Sunnah word for word. I read in one of your posts that if we keep forbidding everything then no one will join Islam. I say, then that is the way it shall be. If someone is to revert, they should do it because they are convinced with every aspect of Islam, not just the ones they choose to accept. No offense intended this is just a comment on taht particular post.
This link may help answer your first question though:
We know that there are 3 verses in the Qur'an, which speak about music, according to the greatest scholars of Islam. The Mufasireen say it is about music, then who are we to say otherwise? We don't even know the basics of Islam. There are many Hadith's which forbid listining to music. The Sahaba did not allow anyone to listen, the Tabieen did not listin, the students of Tabieen did not listin, the scholars of Islam do not allow it. Then who says it is allowed? Abu Haneefah said that even the striking with a stick is Haram. Imam Malik said that it is Haram and only the Fasiqeen listin to it. Imam Shafi said that the one who listens to music, his testinomy must be rejected.
Ahmad ibn Hanbal said, it sprouts hypocrisy in the heart, don't sit to listin to it! All the Sahaba forbid it, all the scholars i know forbid it. So where is the question, if music is allowed or not? Music is only allowed for women, only in Eids and only the daf. That's it. In stead you can download Qur'an and for each letter you hear, you will get 10 rewards Insha'Allah. Is that not better? Or you can listin to Nasheeds (Without music in it). The real life and enjoyment for us is in the Hereafter Insha'Allah. Ofcourse we can enjoy life, but only Halal. The prophet said that this world is a prison to the Muslim and a Paradise for the Kafir. So seek the peace in prayers, not in music. Will you be alive the next hour? If you don't know, then would you dance and play music or pray to Allah?
The Quran is the full word of God. The Book tells us it alone is our guide and is not incomplete or lacking in any way. Where does the Quran tell us we cannot listen to music or dance? To say we must look to texts authored by men is to say that God gave us insufficient guidance in the Quran which is His word.
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