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**tawbah** · 04-30-2005

Bismillaah

okie i've edited my post and deleted my contents and inserted the Following by Aboo Sulaymaan jazaahullaahu khayr which was posted at tibyaan forums as i felt his words are much more comprehensive and beneficial than mines mashaAllaah Ta`ala.

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

The democratic elections are soon approaching in the u.k. and there will again be a strong push by people to get everyone involved in voting, and they will try to pass this off as being Islaamically permissable, and some will say that it is recommended, while those who are further away from the Guidnce will say that it is an obligation upon the Muslims to vote. Please, take the material that clarifies the rulings on voting and elections and spread it as much as you can. Print the books and articles and hand them out, whoever has the ability to give Khutbahs and/or lessons, then let the topic be on this issue for the next while. Don't let those who call to shirk have more influence than those who call to Tawheed. This is an obligation on everyone, each based upon his own ability. If we see how much zeal these people have in calling to shirk, then we should have more than that when calling to the Truth. Don't forget this, and remember how many of us were upon misguidance until Allaah Ta'aala let someone show us the Truth, so be that to someone else, and don't just say that they are misguided, so who cares.

Jazaakum Allaahu Khayran.
Once again forgive me inshaAllaah for leaving this most important topic so late!

Was Salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by sonofadam

pay taxes and nor do I submit to the system - as that would be tantamount to submitting to other than Allah.

Okay, so instead of simply fighting against voting, why don't we hear of campaigns against paying taxes? Shouldn't that logically be your priority since it is monetary support being paid regularly? From now on, I really think that anti-voting groups should become anti-taxes groups. i will find it very amusing to see how much support you get from the Muslim scholars for such a campaign.

So why do you live in the west?

**sonofadam** · 09-13-2005

I suggest everybody reads the following pieces for a better understanding of voting and its reality and relation to us and also for clearing doubts and refuting those who use and twist the concept of the lesser of 2 evils.

Democracy - A Religion!

The Doubts Regarding Democracy

Criticism Of Democracy

Insha'Allah it wont take long to go through the above works, and insha'Allah it will be well worth it.

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · 09-13-2005

First of all, that is about democracy not voting. Secondly, its based on a criticism of western democracy which is only one interpretation of democracy. Thirdly, please be careful what kind of material you are posting on this forum.

**sonofadam** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl

Okay, so instead of simply fighting against voting, why don't we hear of campaigns against paying taxes? Shouldn't that logically be your priority since it is monetary support being paid regularly? From now on, I really think that anti-voting groups should become anti-taxes groups. i will find it very amusing to see how much support you get from the Muslim scholars for such a campaign.

So why do you live in the west?

As there is no Dar ul Islam at this present time and until it is established (soon insha'Allah) I as a Muslim live in the west trying to call people to this religion of truth and also to expose and disassociate myself from the corrupt western satanic system of way of life. As for waiting to see how much support I and others of similar ideals get from Muslim 'scholars' - the truth is not judged according to this criterion.

**sonofadam** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl

First of all, that is about democracy not voting. Secondly, its based on a criticism of western democracy which is only one interpretation of democracy. Thirdly, please be careful what kind of material you are posting on this forum.

Had you been thorough and taken your time to go through the above works you would have come across the relevant sections related to voting. Why should I be careful as to what material I post on this forum? Does material related to democracy and voting come under Bush's so-called 'War on Terror' (or shall I say crusade on Islam) or maybe Blair's '12 point plan'? I really dont see what you are trying to say. People should be able to decide for themselves after seeing the other side of the argument. May Allah open our hearts to the truth and make us follow it instead of the easier option which is in accordance with our whims and desires and in opposition to the evidences.