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    What is the solution to the ummah's problems. (OP)




    i wanted to start a really active healthy discussion on an important issue, and to do so i would like to ask whoever reads this, 3 questions :

    1. Define the problems of the ummah.

    2. What are the solutions to the ummah's problems.

    3. How do you fit into that solution

    It is hypocritical to provide a solution which you do not fit into yourself, i will reply soon inshaAllah im kind of writing this quite lazily (because its day) and maybe at night when i am slightly more philosophical i will come back to reply with my answers.
    What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by dishdash View Post
    La 7awlah wala quwatta illabilla...
    I don't think i will ever understand you.
    But to respect the mods, let's stick to the topic.
    So what do you feel is the solution to the ummah's problems?
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    Our problems are far too diverse to warrant a single solution. Certainly, poverty is a large problem that many Muslims suffer. Muslims suffer from a lack of health care, education, and the free exercise of the rights and freedoms needed to live fulfilling lives. The problems that middle class Muslims in the US are very different from problems faced by upper class Muslims in say, Sierra Leone. War has afflicted many of the lands that Muslims hail from, and immigrant Muslims often export tribal, sectarian, or other types of homegrown conflict to their new homelands. In places where the indigenous Muslim population is new, the problems are often those of expression of identity- how to get a mosque built, how to develop indigenous expressions of Islam that are compatible with new peoples and situations. The first step to solving these problems is to realize that they are diverse, and that there is no panacea.
    What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by NJUSA View Post
    Our problems are far too diverse to warrant a single solution. Certainly, poverty is a large problem that many Muslims suffer. Muslims suffer from a lack of health care, education, and the free exercise of the rights and freedoms needed to live fulfilling lives. The problems that middle class Muslims in the US are very different from problems faced by upper class Muslims in say, Sierra Leone. War has afflicted many of the lands that Muslims hail from, and immigrant Muslims often export tribal, sectarian, or other types of homegrown conflict to their new homelands. In places where the indigenous Muslim population is new, the problems are often those of expression of identity- how to get a mosque built, how to develop indigenous expressions of Islam that are compatible with new peoples and situations. The first step to solving these problems is to realize that they are diverse, and that there is no panacea.
    On that basis, the state of the religion in Saudi and UAE would be a very healthy one...

    And yet...
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    I did not mean that poverty was the only problem that Muslims suffer, and poverty is a moral issue, but not as completely as you may suggest. Do read my entire post before responding.
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    That may be true, but following the Sunnah is still the answer, regardless of where you live. We have been instructed on how to deal with life's situations. Islam is for the whole world, therefore, culture doesn't matter.
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    Ahem, even the Sunnah will not eliminate poverty- most of the sahaba lived in very poor conditions. Following the Sunnah may not help against an oppressive ruler, if one cannot leave, or participate in an opposition group. The Sunnah would need reinterpretation to adapt to new peoples and situations. The Sunnah is not a panacea.
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    InshAllah practice what you preach Peace out x
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by NJUSA View Post
    I did not mean that poverty was the only problem that Muslims suffer, and poverty is a moral issue, but not as completely as you may suggest. Do read my entire post before responding.
    Sorry - I saw you had wrote "where the indigenous population was new", had a laugh, got distracted, tried to read again, but got bored second time round.

    Insh'Allah next time I will have more sabr.

    You are maybe saying that we all have problems, just different ones? There is a slow hand clap emoticon somewhere but I can't be bothered to find it.

    In all seriousness, I actually chose to ignore your ridiculous parting comment in that post about there being no panacea. Jubbs quite correctly pointed out that the sunnah (and the Qur'an) IS that panacea.

    But you then post that you don't believe that the sunna is a panacea.... Now, I'm not sure if you are getting panacea mixed up with the word pancake or pancreas (of which the sunnah is neither) but panacea means a remedy for all evils (or disease etc) and that is EXACTLY what the sunnah is.

    The sunnah needs re-interpretation according to you!!! Astirghfirullah! Get thee to a scholar quicksmart...

    The answers to ALL of our problems lie in the QUr'an and the sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad pbuh. ALL.

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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.



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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    Masha-Allah, some simple and concise advice there akhee.
    You know if we all depend on Allah, and return to the deen the way the prophet (SAW) and the sahaba (RA) practiced it, then we would be so successful! BUT WE JUST TOO THICK TO REALISE THAT!
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

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    What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    Hello dishdash it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to engage in an argument with another member in any one of our forums?
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    The Ummah needs to unite bottom line when it was united islamic civilization was a powerful force and the reason for influence on Western Education and many inventions....
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hijrah View Post
    The Ummah needs to unite bottom line when it was united islamic civilization was a powerful force and the reason for influence on Western Education and many inventions....
    May I suggest to you you have that backwards? Muslims, in my opinion, need to produce many inventinos, influence Western Education, and then be a united Islamic civilisation. There is an "Ali Baba" mentality I noticed in much of the modern world but especially Muslims - there's this idea that you do not need to work for a living but you can find a magic lamp you can rub and then you'll be rich and powerful. Admitedly Saudi Arabia did it with oil, but no one else is likely to soon. Unity is not a magic lamp. Even if it were, it is unlikely to happen, about as unlikely as finding a magic lamp. So the solution is to work to make Muslims admired and worthy. Then unification will come.
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    May I suggest to you you have that backwards? Muslims, in my opinion, need to produce many inventinos, influence Western Education, and then be a united Islamic civilisation. There is an "Ali Baba" mentality I noticed in much of the modern world but especially Muslims - there's this idea that you do not need to work for a living but you can find a magic lamp you can rub and then you'll be rich and powerful. Admitedly Saudi Arabia did it with oil, but no one else is likely to soon. Unity is not a magic lamp. Even if it were, it is unlikely to happen, about as unlikely as finding a magic lamp. So the solution is to work to make Muslims admired and worthy. Then unification will come.
    either way unity is the key...
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Lateralus63 View Post


    i wanted to start a really active healthy discussion on an important issue, and to do so i would like to ask whoever reads this, 3 questions :

    1. Define the problems of the ummah.

    2. What are the solutions to the ummah's problems.

    3. How do you fit into that solution

    It is hypocritical to provide a solution which you do not fit into yourself, i will reply soon inshaAllah im kind of writing this quite lazily (because its day) and maybe at night when i am slightly more philosophical i will come back to reply with my answers.
    wa Alaikum Salaam


    These are strictly my own limited opinions:


    1. Define the problems of the ummah.

    A. Lack of education. Although there are many very well educated Muslims, as a group we have a very high rate of illiteracy. A very large number of our brothers and sisters have received very little schooling. Which is sad because so many of the modern sciences were founded by Islamic scholars.

    B. We have fallen victem to culturism. Too orften we accept the teachings of our individual cultures over the teachings of the Qur'an. We tend to ignore or shun our brothers and sisters who do not speak the same nor eat the same foods as us.

    C. Disparity of wealth. Wealth among the worlds Muslims is very uneven. We have some of the wealthiest Brothers in the world, yet many of our brothers and sisters are living in abject poverty.



    2. What are the solutions to the ummah's problems.

    A. Each of us must be aware of the Ummah at all times. However we must walk a balance. We must be certain that our awareness is fair and true. We must learn why we as Muslim tend to isolate ourselves from each other, except for times of extreme drama. We need to let our brothers and sisters know we are there even when they do not need our help.

    B. We must all act as Muslims even at the times it means to live in peace with those we see as enemies.

    C. We must end our tendency to come together only during times of conflict with other people.

    D. We are quick to come to arms to aid our brothers and sisters, but we do not seem to be willing to teach them that sometimes the acceptance of peacefull coexistance, is the wiser choice then battle. We have to keep in mind that the killing of innocents is wrong and sometimes our help can be turned into an instruement of destroying non-combatants.


    3. How do you fit into that solution

    A. That is something I am still learning. What I am trying to do is to be an open friend to those who I know to be Brothers.

    B. Hopefully I can let my brothers know I need their help, in learning what my De'en truly is. By opening myself up to their guidance, I hope it will encourage them to guide others.

    C. I know I can only reach a limited number of Brothers in my life time. I need to do my best to be certain that is quality time and not wasted on frivilous disputes or false pleasures.
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    Here we go :

    1 ) The ummah has to be willing (when i say willing,i dont mean "yeah ok,..i'll do it..." i mean "YEAH!LETS DO IT!") to make changes.

    Once we've completed #1,i will reveal #2....
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair View Post
    Here we go :

    1 ) The ummah has to be willing (when i say willing,i dont mean "yeah ok,..i'll do it..." i mean "YEAH!LETS DO IT!") to make changes.

    Once we've completed #1,i will reveal #2....
    OK - well I think I speak on behalf of the umah when I say "yeah - let's do itx99!" So let's hear it wise-guy - what's number 2?!
    What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    Hello dishdash it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to engage in an argument with another member in any one of our forums?
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    May I suggest to you you have that backwards? Muslims, in my opinion, need to produce many inventinos, influence Western Education, and then be a united Islamic civilisation. There is an "Ali Baba" mentality I noticed in much of the modern world but especially Muslims - there's this idea that you do not need to work for a living but you can find a magic lamp you can rub and then you'll be rich and powerful. Admitedly Saudi Arabia did it with oil, but no one else is likely to soon. Unity is not a magic lamp. Even if it were, it is unlikely to happen, about as unlikely as finding a magic lamp. So the solution is to work to make Muslims admired and worthy. Then unification will come.
    Nuh uhhh.... unity in the hearts, then physical unity will come. The salaf as-salif did not need inventions and theorems to unite. What we are lacking is iman, and the initiative.
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    Re: What is the solution to the ummah's problems.

    i feel that the biggest problem that the ummah is lack of unity!

    solution to it is trying to sort of the differences among the muslim world & face the oppressors with vigour & unity ... stand united whatever may happen!
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